Sorry I don't mean to sounds like I have main character syndrome, that's not my intent.

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[–] 18 points 11 months ago (1 child)

It sounds like depersonalisation to me. A form of dissociation.

Lots of trans people deal with it when they're closeted. I know I did.

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    [–] 13 points 11 months ago (3 children)
  • [–] [S] 8 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I thought it said Lotus of Control and I was 'bout to grab a flamethrower ready to burn some flower down.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Is a parent or grandparent in your family a narcissist? That crud does trickle down.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 11 months ago

    Part of it.

    But even if they were good parents, I'd still feel like its scripted because of other factors.

    Because my "backstory" (I mean might as well use this word since I'm talking as if this is a simulated world), in general, is so fucking bizzare it doesn't feel real.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I don't feel like my life is scripted per se, but sometimes I'll be talking to someone and all of the sudden it feels like someone else has taken control of my body and is doing all the talking while I just sit back and watch. I have to concentrate to get back in control.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    i think this is a common side effect of being self aware

    little existential crises before getting back into life

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    If the world seems unreal & you feel like you’re watching yourself play a role in a movie rather than living your life, then that might be a psychiatric disorder worth evaluation by a professional. It's normal on occasions, but not beyond that it interferes with your regular ability to function.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    OP, please heed this. Make an appointment with a professional ASAP. If you're not able to do so or not able to get an appointment soon, please talk to someone you trust and ask them to keep an eye out/check in on you to make sure these feelings of depersonalization don't spiral into something bigger and/or unsafe. If needed, please visit a psychiatric ER.

    Some mental disorders that present this way are theorized to be degenerative, and prolonged/multiple episodes of psychosis make it harder to treat and manage. Ideally getting them under control before a first full psychotic episode can even come to head.

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I don't feel important enough for that. Same reason I'm not religious. People claiming a personal relationship with the goddamn creator of the universe are hella conceited.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago*

    Eh, if you believe that god is omnipotent then it's not really hubristic to think that god can easily have a personal relationship with every living being, which includes you

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    the funniest ones to me are the ones that haven't even read their books ...like...bruh, if I thought a book had the answer to literally all of lifes questions i would be reading the shit out of it.

    but the majority of these people claiming to be religious are apparently content to be spoonfed a verse or two every week or so? there's something seriously wrong with that lack of personal agency.

    they've basically given up their own free will for the deluded idea they can live forever

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    People claiming a personal relationship with the goddamn creator of the universe are hella conceited.

    I'd say even prideful, you know one of the 7 deadly sins, often considered the worst of them and even the root/source of the other 6. The sheer hubris needed to believe you have a personal connection that others don't is ridiculous.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Yeah, a bit. My life is one of those shows where when something's finally going right it immediately gets undercut and everything falls apart

    Tbh some of those incredible downturns in my life couldn't be better scripted if you tried

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 11 months ago

    something’s finally going right it immediately gets undercut and everything falls apart

    This is so me 💀

    Life is going a bit smoothly? Boom bullying, difficult assignment, test, shitty teacher, parents lash out, political problems, oops chemical spill leaked into your city's water supply (actually happened), a FUCKING PLANE CRASHED within a 10 mile radius of me, fire on your street, random dude crashing into parked cars on your street (wtf), a fucking global pandemic, civil unrest, suppression of protests, insurrection/coup attempt... etc... etc...

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    [–] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Last night I turned off a small metalic lamp that's next to my bed. I then heard a tapping sound like a small dripping water hitting the metalic lamp.

    I turned the lamp on. I saw no water. The tapping stopped. I looked at the ceiling. No sign of water. I looked at the lamp. No water. Turned the light back off. Rolled back over, and got comfy.

    Tap......tap.......tap..........

    Turned the light back on. Tapping stopped. Still no water.

    Turned the light off. The second the light was off, I heard the tap again.

    Turned it back on. Still no water.

    Got up, got out of bed, checked all around my night stand. Checked behind it. Nothing out of the ordinary.

    While standing next to the bed, turned the light off. Tapping resumed.

    Turned the light back on, and walked to the living room. Layed down on the couch.

    Light on in the bedroom. I'm in the living room. Turn the living room light off.

    Now there's tapping inside the pipes inside the walls. Totally different tap. Totally different place. Totally different tapping sound. This didn't sound like dripping water. This sounded like someone hitting the pipes with a wooden spoon with the same cadence.

    Tap......tap.......tap........

    But it always stopped when I turned the light on.

    So I went into the bathroom, and took a shower.

    Now, here's the kicker. I live alone. I have no pets. I have no rodents in the walls.

    The whole thing came off like someone playing a prank on me. Except that person didn't exist. It felt like I was living some 1930s comedy skit. Some Abbot and Costello skit. Except this is just me, alone in my apartment, going insane.

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    If someone scripted my life then he needs a massive kick in the nuts

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I don't feel like it's scripted and that's slightly worrying. I feel like a plank of wood being tossed about by the sea in a storm. At least with a benevolent god, one can assume that the suffering of life has a purpose. The older I get and the more evil I see prospering, the less confident I feel that there's a point to it all. This depresses and mildly frightens me.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Neurology tells us that we make decisions before we're consciously aware that we made them.

    I felt that specifically on an anti-seizure drug that I used to stop familial tremors. Almost as if someone was walking in my body and doing everything 5 seconds before I knew what was happening. It's not abnormal, but it can feel remarkably disconcerting to believe you no longer have agency of your own body. Sorry for that, homeslice, but don't be too concerned.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    No, but it's something I've heard other people describe. I don't know if it's common, but it doesn't sound odd.

    People at church when I went as a kid would talk about a sense of feeling guided. People talked about feeling "called" to something. I always felt a lot of nothing, but I don't think most of them were lying about that feeling, even if I suspect a different source than they did.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    that sense of being guided is just free will, most people really don't have it/experience it often to realize this because they're effectively stuck in the labor trap. perpetually struggling for the basic survival needs of food/water/shelter that their brain barely considers the higher needs of self actualization and all that other rich-people problem shit.

    religion is popular with poor people (because it's makes accepting you have no/limited agency easier to swallow, i guess?) and dumb people who like give up their free will (because making choices scares them i assume?)

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Do you mean 'life feels scripted' in the sense of you feel like there is a narrative structure to life, like your actions and words are decided by an external writer? Or do you mean in the sense of life has a narrative economy, like someone could have 'plot armor?' Or is it the sense that life should have more structure, like it goes against some unwritten law of writing that some things could happen at all?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    What I find truly amazing is that sometimes a thought suddenly flashes through my mind: Hey, I feel like I've anticipated this very situation before! Sometimes I can even predict what someone else is about to say next.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    We've actually figured out that that one is basically a "stutter" in your memory encoding system. Consciousness isn't as continuous as it feels, and so you can get a situation where your memory says it just put some stuff in working memory and consciousness thinks it means your current thoughts or observations. So you end up with a feeling of a past recollection of a current awareness. Because it's tagged "past" you can't do anything other than understand it to be in the past, even though you're actively experiencing it.
    A related phenomenon is how you "always" wake up just before the loud noise. Even though you're asleep you still hear things and process audio. A loud noise happens and your audio processing tells you to wake up. Conscious you wakes up, creating that new memory, and then processes the noise that woke you.

    Consciousness is a process that takes place over a duration, not an instant.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    It's The Organization! Bring out the microwave, Okabe!

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    No. I think my life is generally too boring to be scripted.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    I mean... Like a video game, sure.

    Something scripted the laws that govern the universe, which in turn govern me. But it's, like, dynamic and not on rails kinda scripted. Emergent gameplay kinda shit.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Where do you think the idea of "The Fates" comes from? Or any number of other similar deities/forces in nearly every society around the world. That feeling has been with us as humans for a long, long time.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Not really, mine is pretty random and based on choices I made in the past

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    The worse things get in my life the more I feel like this. I believe it's a consequence of being raised Christian. (Though I am an atheist now.) When I was younger I believed God never gives you more than you can handle. So when things got bad it felt like God was breaking that promise. Now that I'm older it feels like "bad writing." Like, really? This many bad things in such a short time period? It's a little on the nose, isn't it? It's why I can't rewatch I saw the TV Glow until I know I am in a very stable mental place.

    Major spoilersThe main characters enjoyed a TV show that got cancelled on a cliff hanger. It is revealed that the characters are actually characters from that show which is reality and the false reality is the world they're stuck in. To get back to the true world they have to bury themselves alive.

    I saw this movie right in the heels of Trump's inauguration when I had a lot of other stress going on. Naturally, a movie with 4th wall breaking lines like "Do you ever feel like your life is a TV show?" when I did feel like my life was scripted and the way for them to get out was suicide was pretty terrifying.

    The irony being that I have been going through a bit of a gender journey for a while and knew the movie had themes to do with that, but none of that really hot anywhere close to home as the rest mentioned above. I'm just glad I planned to see it surrounded by friends.

    The idea that there's an escape hatch on reality is so alluring. The idea that all the bad things in your life are the fault of one person, even if they're a metaphysical entity, is so appealing. The sad reality is that it's all random and sometimes we just get unlucky streaks.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I’ve felt like I’m in a simulation quite often. It sounds very cliché and I never thought I’d actually feel it (the idea has always fascinated me but c’mon, really?) up until the last few years.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Some things happen in my life way more frequently than statistical probabilities would suggest.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Even if such observation of yours is an objective unbiased statistical estimation... statistical deviations as large as M are also expected on one out of N times, the trial factor correction is non trivial at all... even without multiverse assumptions

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Not really, no.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    If the world was some simulation, if you feel that you are a real bag of flesh and are able to feel conscuous, free will, etc. then it doesn't really matter if the universe is a simulation in my opinion It would explain a lot though. Sometimes I completely forget what I was going to do/find in a room right after I entered it, which could easily be explained by someone high above pulling a funny prank on the flesh bags.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Yes! Like someone trained me wrong, as a joke

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    No - my life’s not that interesting

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Not so much scripted as just I can logically follow where I was to where I am and infer where I'm going next. There's surprises to be sure but there's only so many way things can happen given the parameters of a story you're very familiar with

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    A lot of your life will play out seemingly by design, but it's just a byproduct of living in a society.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 11 months ago (4 children)

    I watch scenes in Movie/TV where a character has a traumatic childhood and memory/flacshback scene, then I realize I have the same feel, so I feel like someone staged it, like my older brother is actually an actor in this dark version of truman show purposfully giving me that traumatic memory.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    movies are meant to make you feel a certain way, to come to some realization in your own life. this is the point of all (halfway decent) art, somebody is telling you a message amd your supposed to figure out what the message is

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 11 months ago* (2 children)

    Shit... which telephone do I use to exit the simulation?

    ALL THE PAYPHONES ARE GONE!

    Edit: Or do you mean like I'm supposed to stay in this fictional world and be the protagonist? Is that traumatic childhood necessary to have a good story? lol

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    only tangibly related to your question

    there are some people who think conflict is required to bring about higher levels of consciousness, though that's probably just a hierarchy of needs things playing out more often than not.

    there's this old jewish tradition uh...i forget the word for it, but basically the most sacred act you can do is teach someone else to be self sufficient. (whether that's financially/emotionally/whatever, before you can seriously help others you must be self sufficient, therefor you should help others become self sufficient).

    one way to do this is via stories, examining the stories etc.

    but uh...yes, generally trauma is a prelude to creativity. people who don't know struggle have no good/relatable stories to tell.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    @DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works @nostupidquestions@lemmy.worldI don't only feel, I it. Not just me: you, everyone here, all humans, living beings, every cosmic stuff. And there are scientific, psychological, spiritual, philosophical and political explanations.When it comes to Science, our actions are just a byproduct of causality within a dynamic, closed system, an organism constrained by laws of physics from which the principles of chemical reactions emerge. If we were to stick to a strict, Dawkinsian Science, we're no different than other dynamic systems across the universe. It's all physical causality devoid of meaning.In psychology, if Theory of Mind is to be considered, the mind is also a byproduct of all conditions in which the being existed and exists. I like to cite Derren Brown and his works, especially "The Push", which perfectly illustrates how a person can be fooled by social compliance (I'm not just referring to the main plot where a person is brought into a gala auction and woven into a web of deception that leads them into , I'm also referring to the selection process where the candidates are tricked into standing or sitting at the ring of a bell). I also nod to the ending scene of The Artifice Girl where Cherry, in a talk with her creator, complains about how every choice of hers are inexorably bound to her initial directives. I could also nod to Freud and to how superego and id are fated to conflict through ego.In spirituality, Gnosticism explains how matter is a prison crafted by Demiurge (Yaodabaoth) so Archons can siphon and feed from our suffering. Luciferianism and other LHP traditions seek to fight the tyrannical order of Demiurge and the Archons aligned to him, who are seen by Abrahamic as "The Father (sic) and his angels". The Calvinist Christianity emphasizes the biblical verse "before I formed ye in the womb, I knew ye" (Jeremiah 1:5). Some religions, especially ancient, feature a counterpoint to this order/god, the Primordial Chaos/Darkness/Goddess (e.g. Taoist Yin, Sumerian Ereshkigal). Freemasonry's "Ordo ab Chao" is a spiritual flavor of the scientific Big-Bang/Hadean Eon, where order emerges from this primordial chaos.Philosophically, our senses deceive us (Descartes) but those very senses is the way we learn and become, we're wolves to ourselves (Hobbes), society is inherently evil and corrupts its peers (Rousseau) as we're prone to becoming the very monsters we vowed to fight against (Nietzsche): all of which are kind of pre-established principles ruling us, individually and socially.Politically, capitalism needs no introduction on how it compels us to be a disposable cog in a machine whose lines "must go up". But this doesn't make other systems (communism, socialism, etc) less evil: every form of authority is a megaphone for all evilness inherent to us humans.Even this reply of mine was predetermined, spiritually, physically, socially.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I don't feel like any of those things, personally.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    You're my NPC and I yours.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago*

    On questions 1,2 and 3 no.

    On question 4m yes it is, religious fruit cakes think that all the time.

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