What went wrong with Threads is that it’s owned by Meta.

Is threads still alive?

Eugene's ambivalence to deeply hurtful business operations is off-putting. People aren't merely mistrustful. They're harmed and fleeing in some cases. Zuckerberg's choices are sociopath choices.

Every dictator ever was basically mainstream. That's what it usually means. Genghis and Kublai Khan were mainstream in their time too.

... what it will take to grow the fediverse.

Orrr, we could let it be small and cozy. I like it this way, thank you.

Interesting, thx!

I don't use mastodon much, if at all, but I like the distinction he makes between 'social media' (something to consume, like TV or radio) and 'social network' (as, well, actively networking with people, not being a passive consumer). I think I'll start using that expression too.

Also:

ER: I think Mastodon and the fediverse are part of the old internet that was more about communicating with each other and having fun, and less about passive consumption and just essentially watching TV, which is what TikTok is, except worse.

100% this (next to TikTok, this should have mentioned a lot of YouTube too, imho). And it's one of the reason why I quit using all social networks except the Fediverse and why I rekindled my personal blog. Blogs were and still are about having fun communicating while keeping control over our online presence and with whom we chose to interact, or not. I would love to see more people start blogging ;)

Wait threads died already?

threads = meta/Facebook... one of the main reasons why people came to the fediverse in the first place, was to get the hell away from those crappy corporations. who honestly though it was smart to have them try to infect the fediverse.

It occurs to me anyway that making Fediverse apps in the shape and likeness of corporate media was a mistake. Even without the ever-present feed algorithms, people still post as though they are in an attention economy in these formats because they were conditioned to do so for years.

I understand that this was done to make adoption and migration easier, but I feel like the Fediverse ultimately needs to succeed on its own terms.

I'm hoping the sucessor of the fediverse is something from the spritely institute

Link to audio: https://coywolf.com/news/social-media/mastodon-creator-shares-what-went-wrong-with-threads-and-ponders-the-future-of-the-fediverse/#h-listen-to-the-full-interview

However, while I saw some really nice updates come through, I also saw some that weren’t so great. It felt like they were making poor choices, likely because of their legal department.

Eugen Rochko: That’s exactly how I would put it. It’s like Cambridge Analytica burned them, and they didn’t want a repeat. And that really limited what they could do.

The tone of how they speak about Meta and Threads bothers me. It was incredibly obvious why it failed.

I'm very sorry to learn that Rochko is stepping down as Mastodon CEO. I think he has probably contributed more than any other person to the success of the Fediverse. And it won't be the same without him.

Well many of us blocked the threads domain pre-emptively so even if they had federated we wouldn't have seen their posts.

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In conclusion: Meta.