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[–] 132 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Isn’t this exactly the type of situation that was being used recently as an example of when an order is so blatantly illegal that the soldier is required not to follow it?

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  • [+] 17 points 11 months ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Because it comes down to the Presidential pardon powers. They can defy a blatantly illegal order, be dishonorably discharged, lose their pensions, healthcare benefits, pay, etc. or, they can follow a blatantly illegal order, and receive a pardon for it later.

    I ask you, which one would you pick?

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    [–] 50 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Such a manly man. Nothing screams "I'm a super serious, super macho, super secure guy!" like summoning all the top generals for a dick waving ceremony, and bombing fishermen from airplanes.

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    [–] 40 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Can't wait for Trump to go away so we can jail this fucker for murder.

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago

    Yeah he didn't get illegal orders, he gave illegal orders and unless Trump is going to say "everyone in my administration is pardoned of all acts performed during their time in my administration" he is clearly guilty of ordering people to be murdered without any due process.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Oh you sweet summer child.

    Even when Trump dies, there is somebody much worse waiting in the wings. 2028 is not going to be a salvation.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Like Obama's drone strikes?

    Fucking please.

    You guys have been worshipping senseless killing for decades. And NOW you want to jail them for murder? A little too late, ain't it?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    What if the same people disgusted with these killings were also disgusted with the drone strikes done under Obama? Crazy to consider. Better to make a strawman with a glaring hypocrisy.

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  • [–] 75 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    When two survivors emerged from the wreckage, a Special Operations commander overseeing the attack ordered a second strike to comply with Hegseth’s instructions to “kill everybody,” according to The Washington Post, citing officials with direct knowledge of the operation.

    The two men were then “blown apart in the water,” according to the report.

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  • [–] 23 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    It makes me nauseous that my government is responsible for this senseless horror. The military can make no claim to honor when they bomb unarmed men clinging desperately to the burning wreck of the boat that was already illegally bombed.

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  • [–] 31 points 11 months ago

    So I guess whenever he steps foot on European soil he will be immediately captured and go to trial, right?

    RIGHT‽

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago

    Can't have any survivors, they know they could be unequivocally confirmed to not be related to the drug trafficking.

    There is no other possible motive here. If these were actual criminals they would parade them about.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    Still don't see why it's necessary to blow up a drug boat in the first place let alone kill everyone on board.

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  • [–] 13 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Because they’re not drug boats. They’re alleged drug boats. But “innocent until proven guilty” doesn’t fit the project 2025 agenda.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago

    This is just a spin on Obama's drone strikes, it's not unique to Republicans or project 2025.

    Project 2025 is about turning America into an authoritarian fascist country, but the worldwide terrorism is bipartisan.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago*

    it's a bad idea but I think they think it's a strong deterrent. "You try to traffic drugs here - you will die" sort of mentality

    This obviously is a poor strategy for a dozen of other reasons but they are simple, stupid people so to them simple stupid solutions are very attractive especially if it scratches their need for cruelty and racial superiority.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    God. This fuckin guy. Another 12 year old in an adult's body. His parents should be ashamed for raising such a piece of human trash.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    He should be extradited to every country he attacked.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    Dead men can't defend themselves or provide evidence that he's wrong.

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    Kill everybody; starting with Pete Hegseth.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    Is there already a case against him and the Trump administration at the ICC? If not, does anyone know how to start one?

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Awful however now even worse with Trump pardoning a real, not imagined, drug lord. Death without trial (or evidence) for potential and most likely poor drug runners but freedom for a convicted drug lord because he could pay Trump off.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    Reminder to all the people newly against extrajudicial killing of random people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Targeted_killing#North_America

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    ...the winners write history, especially with no survivors...or witnesses...

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