As long as it's fairly priced with proper privacy, definitely.
kagi.com is a paid search engine like you describe.
As long as it's fairly priced with proper privacy, definitely.
kagi.com is a paid search engine like you describe.
I pay for Kagi Search, it’s awesome. It’s got a ton of useful features you’d never see in advertising-based search engines, like the ability to up and down rank sites.
Email yes but only with my own domain so I can change providers if the price changes.
I wouldn't pay for anything I'd prefer to keep anonymous and that includes search.
How is your email not flagged as spam? Last time I ran my own email/domain, I could hardly deliver anything. Been 10-years though and I've learned more about best practices. Can it be done now?
Running your own SMTP is still going to be tough. But you can use a mail provider that lets you use your own domain, then you can use their SMTP which should not get flagged as easily.
I haven't done it myself but know people who do. If you use a known provider and only the domain is yours I wouldn't expect it to be blocked as companies also use their own domain for their email.
Yep. I switched to Kagi a bit over a year ago, which is paid search. And I pay for my email through Migadu; I thought about hosting it myself but honestly it seemed like more potential hassle than I wanted to deal with.
What do you mean "if"? At this point anything works better than google. Specially those that cost money.
For email, yes. For search, not until the subscription engines like Kagi go open source (maybe Kagi are and I just missed it but I can't see a link to a repo on their website).
I have no objections to paying for a service but I am long past just trusting software. As for kagi in particular, $10 (plus tax) per month for unlimited search is a ridiculous price.
I pay for proton mail, but selfhost my own meta-search engine. Its not as pure as as one that crawls the web on its own, but the ones that do aren't developed enough for everyday use in my opinion.
£12-ish a year on mailbox.org
I made the switch about 6 months ago and I'm very happy with them
I use Purelymail for Email, just because it was the cheapest and easiest solution to use my own domain without having to host anything myself. I don't think any other Email service will beat their 10$ per year price.
For search engine, I have tried Kagi but just didn't see the point. My DDG searches are perfectly fine and I still find everything I need with relative ease. Although I've been actually needing the search engine much less recently as I've embraced just reading the official documentation for things I program with haha
Not doing it for search engines currently, but I am absolutely doing it for a VPN ( Proton ) for the bonus of having better drive and email attached.
I will agree with you on trusting Proton more than google and how suspicious Proton can seem.
I pay for proton to get both email and VPN. Search really doesn't matter that much to me anymore. I've learned to just live with the annoying aspects of duck duck go, and I use it infrequently enough that i don't think I'd ever be willing to pay for it.
For search engine: I'm self hosting SearXNG so I'm already indirectly paying via domain registry/VPS? So yes. Technically this can be done for free though (local docker, random RasPi laying around, ...)
For email: paid (mailbox.org), worth it. Selfhosting email was too much of a headache at least for me
I pay for email. Proton Unlimited atm which includes email, cloud, vpn, password and email aliases. They offer more but that's all I use. Their Linux support is crap so I may move to other services.
For search, I using Startpage. Seems to give me the results I want. Once in a while I change to Brave, Qwant, or DDG.
No. There's no guarantee they won't get greedy and start selling my data anyway. They'd have to have a really good pitch and some way to back it up that would get me to pay. I yet know what it is, but I haven't seen it yet.
I paid for an email service to step back from google and the services were so disappointing after a couple years and never improved that i couldn't justify the admittedly low cost and went back to freemails.
My dream IEP would provide secure search, email, calendar, office suite and cloud services. I would pay just one provider for all services combined. I would gladly double my monthly subscription for such a service, with 2 accounts at 50go each
a time where search engines were useful and e-mail was perfected
And YouTube was friendlier! Google was losing money on all that in order to corner the market. Now they want paid back. Kinda like reddit losing money every quarter for 19-years. They just turned a profit for the first time.
We got a lot of free shit, got used it, and are now bitching about paying, or watching ads. Ultimately, enshittification was always in the cards. Not sure how we get around that without paying for microservices, kinda like OP is asking about.
The fuck do you get for paid email? It’s literally just SMTP/POP — where’s the “value add”? I use my own email client so the bullshit ads from Google aren’t an issue, but am I missing out on some email 2.0 magic??
It’s literally just SMTP/POP — where’s the “value add”?
I'd say to the majority of people, that first part reads like nonsense.
The value add is thus "you don't have to learn computer stuff."
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