‘But there is a difference between recognising AI use and proving its use. So I tried an experiment. … I received 122 paper submissions. Of those, the Trojan horse easily identified 33 AI-generated papers. I sent these stats to all the students and gave them the opportunity to admit to using AI before they were locked into failing the class. Another 14 outed themselves. In other words, nearly 39% of the submissions were at least partially written by AI.‘

Article archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20251125225915/https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/set-trap-to-catch-students-cheating-ai_uk_691f20d1e4b00ed8a94f4c01

The article‘s author, Will Teague, with his cat, Persephone ’Dots‘ Teague

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[–] 106 points 11 months ago* (7 children)

In one of my classes, when ChatGPT was still new, I once handed out homework assignments related to programming. Multiple students handed in code that obviously came from ChatGPT (too clean a style, too general for the simple tasks that they were required to do).

Decided to bring one of the most egregious cases to class to discuss, because several people handed in something similar, so at least someone should be able to explain how the code works, right? Nobody could, so we went through it and made sense of it together. The code was also nonfunctional, so we looked at why it failed, too. I then gave them the talk about how their time in university is likely the only time in their lives when they can fully commit themselves to learning, and where each class is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to learn something in a way that they will never be able to experience again after they graduate (plus some stuff about fairness) and how they are depriving themselves of these opportunities by using AI in this way.

This seemed to get through, and we then established some ground rules that all students seemed to stick with throughout the rest of the class. I now have an AI policy that explains what kind of AI use I consider acceptable and unacceptable. Doesn't solve the problem completely, but I haven't had any really egregious cases since then. Most students listen once they understand it's really about them and their own "becoming" professional and a more fully developed person.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    This seems pretty fair and reasonable, although, we should ask why people do this in the first place? Why is there so much pressure to get good or decent grades? If you are just going to college to get a degree and all you want to do is pass, then why go at all?

    College is a broken system right now. If things continue the way they are going, people will just learn how to use AI tools and go find a job. They don't even need to think for themselves, they can just have a computer do it for them.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    If you are just going to college to get a degree and all you want to do is pass, then why go at all?

    While I'm about a decade older than the current attendees, "go to college or your life will be terrible" was a persistent and unified message we were forcefed from a very young age. A college degree was billed as a checkpoint to entetr real adult life.

    With that in mind, and another 13 years of compulsory education behind us, why would anybody see college as an opportunity instead of a barrier?

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    People aren't going to college to learn anymore, they're going to get a degree, so they can get a job, so they can afford rent and food. An over generalisation sure, but probably not far off the truth

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Great working being a mentor, your impact there was larger than the subject matter at hand.

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    That's a very capitalist view of education. Some people just want to learn, and that's the point of an education, to enable learning. You might need that piece of paper to get a job in the field you want, and the field you want might prefer a mindless worker drone, but that doesn't mean that education should cut corners and teach to the job.

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    [–] 210 points 11 months ago (15 children)

    Distillation:

    Let me tell you why the Trojan horse worked. It is because students do not know what they do not know. My hidden text asked them to write the paper “from a Marxist perspective”. Since the events in the book had little to do with the later development of Marxism, I thought the resulting essay might raise a red flag with students, but it didn’t.

    I had at least eight students come to my office to make their case against the allegations, but not a single one of them could explain to me what Marxism is, how it worked as an analytical lens or how it even made its way into their papers they claimed to have written. The most shocking part was that apparently, when ChatGPT read the prompt, it even directly asked if it should include Marxism, and they all said yes. As one student said to me, “I thought it sounded smart.”

    I decided to not punish them. All I know how to do is teach, so that’s what I did. I assigned a wonderful essay by Cal Poly professor Patrick Lin that he addressed to his class on the benefits and detriments of AI use. I attached instructions that asked them to read it and reflect. These instructions also had a Trojan horse.

    Thirty-six of my AI students completed it. One of them used AI, and the other 12 have been slowly dropping the class. Ultimately, 35 out of 47 isn’t too bad. The responses to the assignment were generally good, and some were deeply reflective.

    But a handful said something I found quite sad: “I just wanted to write the best essay I could.” Those students in question, who at least tried to provide some of their own thoughts before mixing them with the generated result, had already written the best essay they could. And I guess that’s why I hate AI in the classroom as much as I do.

    Students are afraid to fail, and AI presents itself as a saviour. But what we learn from history is that progress requires failure. It requires reflection. Students are not just undermining their ability to learn, but to someday lead.

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  • [–] 184 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    The only problem I have with the whole "Don't be afraid to fail" thing, is that so much rides on the grades a student receives it makes it very difficult to not treat every assignment as a highly critical task which must be as close to perfect as possible. I totally agree with this professor and I believe he did the right thing by the students. The problem is the system itself.

    Those who are going to outsource their work are likely to always outsource their work or take the path of least resistance. You can't moral lesson or embarrass that away, usually. But the rest of the class seems to have learned a valuable lesson, or at least learned how to cheat better.

    Regardless, we need to stop having everything boil down to the grades. There's good reasons grades are important, but there are even more that are detrimental. I don't know the answer, I just know the system is broken. Maybe it's just capitalism that's broken.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    I agree, the biggest thing that stood out to me here is that they were afraid to fail. If students were focused on creating the work that appeals to them, rather than just the work that will get the highest grade, think of the creativity that could be explored. Instead students are just focused on saying the "right answers" and dont get to think critically about the material. Sad

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  • [–] 19 points 11 months ago

    My undergraduate school didn't assign grades below a C. If you did piss-poorly, the class just didn't show up on your transcript. This encouraged me to take classes I might otherwise have avoided, if I was worried about my GPA.

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  • [+] 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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    Nobody was talking about using tools to arrive at objective answers. Math, at least at the lower levels, doesn't require creativity. Writing is something wholly different. When you are outsourcing your writing it no longer says anything about you. It's creatively bankrupt.

    I'm not wholly opposed to AI. I realize its an inevitability. But at least in this case, especially for writing, you're only cheating yourself. So yeah, I think it is embarrassing to outsource that type of work.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    The difference here is that your final sentence in your previous comment is what AI is specifically used for, not just in school but everywhere. Though I do agree that removing grades won't fix it:

    the only issue is the students turned off their brain and got lazy, removing grades sadly won’t stop this behavior

    The way AI is used is exactly for that reason. To turn off your brain and get the right answer without understanding the how or why - or even if there is a right answer or not. Writing and the entire breath of the arts are different from STEM in that oftentimes there is only your voice and what you want to say, and using AI largely removes your voice from the process.

    It's not an issue inherent to AI in this regard, but AI definitely exacerbates it by making it much easier. Let the robot tell you what to think and what the correct answer is.

    When I was still doing math in school, they wanted us to write out the equations that we used to get our answer and most teachers would give you partial credit even if you got the wrong answer as long as they could understand the logic of how you got there, because the point wasn't to get the answer right so much as to prove that you understood the concepts. And even then, it was constantly drilled into us that getting a good grade was the only thing that mattered. The rote memorization and regurgitating the desired answer for every test in every subject practically killed my love of learning. It took me years after getting out of school to realize again that I actually did enjoy learning new things. AI simply allows kids to regurgitate the correct answer faster and more efficiently, with less effort on their part. It's Cliff Notes without even having to look at the Notes part - just ask Cliff to write your answer for you. The way school is set up unfortunately outright encourages this thought process.

    The modern school system was created partially during the industrial revolution in order to churn out factory workers who could repeat a rote task day in and day out. It wasn't created to make free thinkers and inspire creativity, and how we use AI reflects that. There's no desire there to put in the effort to say what you want to say or an enjoyment of the process (which is a major thing that a lot of artists enjoy about creating - the process can be even more important than the final product), only the desire to obtain a "good" product, whether that's a good grade or something else like Gen AI images to post for Twitter likes.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    Yeah. Afraid to fail is bullshit, just like a college degree has become bullshit. Right down to actually needing to take prerequisite base classes to get your degree in something. Almost no one goes to college because they have a general thirst for knowledge. They go so they can get a job, or because mommy and daddy told them to go.

    Listening to a guy talk in a 200 person class you're paying six figures to attend while in the age of the internet is stupid.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    The only problem I have with the whole “Don’t be afraid to fail” thing, is that so much rides on the grades a student receives it makes it very difficult to not treat every assignment as a highly critical task which must be as close to perfect as possible.

    I get what you're saying in general, but I don't think most profs actually want their students to fail when they're actively trying. I assume that the assignment where he asked them to "read and reflect" on an essay that it was probably something ungraded. I know there are some courses (especially large lecture ones where there could be hundreds of students in one class) where you don't have a lot of signposts other than tests telling you how you're doing in a class, but there really should be something outside graded assignments for you to get feedback on.

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  • [–] 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I dunno... What if a bunch of students got together, seized a data center, then used the AI hardware inside to generate their papers on Marxism?

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  • [–] 69 points 11 months ago (31 children)

    Let me tell you why the Trojan horse worked. It is because students do not know what they do not know. My hidden text asked them to write the paper “from a Marxist perspective”. Since the events in the book had little to do with the later development of Marxism, I thought the resulting essay might raise a red flag with students, but it didn’t.

    I had at least eight students come to my office to make their case against the allegations, but not a single one of them could explain to me what Marxism is, how it worked as an analytical lens or how it even made its way into their papers they claimed to have written. The most shocking part was that apparently, when ChatGPT read the prompt, it even directly asked if it should include Marxism, and they all said yes. As one student said to me, “I thought it sounded smart.”

    Christ.......

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (16 children)

    Yeah, those students deserve to fail.

    I assume he taught what Marxism is in the class, yeah?

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    No, it was irrelevant to the class

    This is university, not high school or college.

    They should've checked it themselves, realised that it was ridiculous and either removed it, or at least asked the prof if that's supposed to be there.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    Well that's kinda fucked then.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (10 children)

    Maybe you need his class lmao. Re read the article and have a think about what it means.

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  • [–] -3 points 11 months ago* (8 children)

    So he fails people who are Marxist because they follow directions and have actually educated themselves on something?

    It's a history class ffs. We should be teaching Marxism anyway

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (7 children)

    I legitimately think that you need to work on reading comprehension or let yourself read things without just getting too pissed based on trigger phrases you decided on to think about what you read. He asked all the students who submitted Marxist papers about their perspectives and none of them could even explain what Marxism was. I implore you to step back and think through this rationally - how many US college freshmen have strong Marxist views and are knowledgeable and passionate enough about them to write a strong essay about how an event in American history fits within a Marxist perspective? I also invite you to consider how a professor who wants to "fail people who are marxist" would recognize Marxist language and rhetoric subtly inserted into an essay? Furthermore, THE INSTRUCTIONS TO WRITE FROM A MARXIST PERSPECTIVE WERE IN WHITE TEXT THE STUDENTS COULDN'T READ UNLESS THEY COPY AND PASTED THEM INTO A DIFFERENT TEXT FIELD! I don't understand how you could supposedly read this article multiple times and not understand this crucial detail.

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  • [–] -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

    If you didn't make it to your freshmen year without learning what Marxism is, you probably shouldn't be in Uni

    Yes, most educated US Americans learn about Marxism at some point in high school (or earlier)

    THE INSTRUCTIONS TO WRITE FROM A MARXIST PERSPECTIVE WERE IN WHITE TEXT THE STUDENTS COULDN'T READ

    The fuck are you yelling about. That doesn't make sense. Obviously it could be read from the assignment paper. Otherwise, it wouldn't be read by the students. Which, the article made very clear, it was read by the students.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    To be brief, I inserted hidden text into an assignment’s directions that the students couldn’t see but that ChatGPT can.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I read that. And I read nothing that described how that's possible. So, no, obviously the students could see it.

    That claim makes no sense.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    ". My hidden text asked them to write the paper “from a Marxist perspective”

    Freshmen.

    That's a dangerous proof.

    He could have said to write from a zagnoore brandle-frujt perspective. Some would have scanned the assignment, ignored the part they didn't understand, and kept chooching right along. Many students would rather try to figure it out than sound stupid in class or risk the spotlight of social interaction.

    Interrogating each of them on the material is the only safe way.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    The Trojan worked because the students who read the assignment would not have seen the reference to Marxism. Only by copy pasting the text in to another field would that show up.

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  • [–] 24 points 11 months ago

    The article mentions that he gave them a chance to explain why they chose to write it from a Marxist perspective and none of the students even knew what Marxism was.

    He gave students an out in the event they actually did write from a Marxist pov

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  • [–] -2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You're assuming the freshmen would recognize a reference to marxism and not ignore that part because they didn't understand. It's what inexperienced students do

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  • [–] 10 points 11 months ago

    He made it hidden text in the assignment, i.e im guessing he made the text the same color as the background. Only when one copied the text and pasted it as instructions for a prompt would it be seen. Hence it was a Trojan horse on the assignment where those not using ai blatantly would not find it.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago

    I'm not assuming a damn thing. He literally made it impossible to see the reference to Marxism unless you copy pasted the text in to another field. Like you would do if you were feeding it to an AI. Think very small white font.

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

    Honestly interrogating each one on the material would be best but costly. Some classes have 80 students and professors have more than one class.

    Also rest of the article says he asked students objecting accusations to tell what Marxism is and they admitted afterwards.

    Apparently chatgpt asked "are you sure you want marxist perspective" as topic is older and not that directly related to marxism. One said they picked yes because quote, unquote "it sounded smart."

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (2 children)

    The idiom you're looking for in your last sentence is quote, unquote

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Also rest of the article says he asked students objecting accusations to tell what Marxism is and they admitted afterwards.

    Yes, I read it. All of it.

    He definitely caught a number of them, but he called it proof, it should NOT be treated as proof, an indicator at best. If it were proof he could just fail them all and not catch false positives.

    Totally agree about the number of people to interview being expensive. But it is more adequate as proof.

    What he didn't do wasn't wrong, but he can't count on that to be a point to fail.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    He definitely caught a number of them, but he called it proof, it should NOT be treated as proof, an indicator at best. If it were proof he could just fail them all and not catch false positives.

    So you frequently wrote your papers from a Marxists perspective randomly when it had no relevance to the topic at hand? He hid the text by making it the same color as the background in the assignment so only when one copy and pasted the assignment or attached the file to their prompt would it be picked up. The only real false positives would be those staunchly Marxists students or someone using a screen reader. Which I think if you are inserting Marxism into random essays that are not relevant you probably are going to be bringing it up constantly in every setting you can and would also be able to explain it. It definitely is a reason to be failed on an assignment if he caught you with this.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago

    Many students would rather try to figure it out than sound stupid in class or risk the spotlight of social interaction.

    This ignores the entire premise of the experiment. The 39% were not interested in learning regardless of the consequences.

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  • [–] 163 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Here's the link to the actual article. I get that you're trying to do users a favour to bypass tracking at the original URL, but the Internet Archive is a Free service that shouldn't be abused for link cleaning as it costs a lot of money to store and serve all this stuff and it's meant as an "archive", not an ad-blocking proxy.

    I'm posting this in part because currently clicking that link errors it with a "too many requests" error. Let's try to be a little kinder to the good guys, shall we?

    If users wasnt a cleaner/safer/faster browsing experience, I recommend ditching Chrome for Firefox and getting the standard set of extensions: uBlock Origin, Privacy Badger, etc.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Fuck it. Let's make the Internet Archive only accessible from public libraries. And you will have to physically go to a library to access it. No accessing the archive through your library's website.

    I could also be convinced to make the Internet Archive only accessible from a series of elaborate temples we build just for this purpose.

    Regardless of the method, the point is that the Internet Archive still exists and serves its core purpose. It loses some convenience of scholarly access, but in turn it now becomes useless as a paywall bypass mechanism.

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    This quote is particularly amusing because the author used en dashes where he should have used em dashes, while making a point about how no one uses em dashes.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    And you don’t put spaces around em or en dashes.

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    It’s not a hard rule unless you’re using a hard format like Chicago, MLA, or APA format. In the US it’s common to not use spaces, but in the UK and some parts of Europe it’s common to use spaces for em dashes and en dashes if they are being used to denote parentheticals.

    Edit: I just noticed this article is hosted on HuffPost UK. If you go look at the US version of the site, it uses em dashes. In the UK it is becoming common to use en dashes in place of em dashes for parentheticals. Though even in the US version there are spaces, so it’s still not a clean comparison.

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  • [–] 16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I use a dash all the fucking time - it proves a point and keeps the train of thought going

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  • [–] 44 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    From later in the article:

    Students are afraid to fail, and AI presents itself as a saviour. But what we learn from history is that progress requires failure. It requires reflection. Students are not just undermining their ability to learn, but to someday lead.

    I think this is the big issue with 'ai cheating'. Sure, the LLM can create a convincing appearance of understanding some topic, but if you're doing anything of importance, like making pizza, and don't have the critical thinking you learn in school then you might think that glue is actually a good way to keep the cheese from sliding off.

    A cheap meme example for sure, but think about how that would translate to a Senator trying to deal with more complex topics.... actually, on second thought, it might not be any worse. 🤷

    Edit: Adding that while critical thinking is a huge part. it's more of the "you don't know what you don't know" that tripped these students up, and is the danger when using LLM in any situation where you can't validate it's output yourself and it's just a shortcut like making some boilerplate prose or code.

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    But I am a historian, so I will close on a historian’s note: History shows us that the right to literacy came at a heavy cost for many Americans, ranging from ostracism to death. Those in power recognised that oppression is best maintained by keeping the masses illiterate, and those oppressed recognised that literacy is liberation.

    It's scary how much damage is being done to education, not just from AI but also the persistent attacks on public education in the US over decades, hampering the system with things like No Child Left Behind and diverting funds to private schools with vouchers in the name of "school choice". On top of that there are suggestions that teachers aren't even needed and that students could be taught with AI. It's grim.

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    I'm guessing 33 people were too lazy to copy data into a box and relied on ChatGPT OCR lol.

    This was a great article about the use of AI, but I think this also exposed bad/zero effort cheating.

    There's a reason why even the ye olde Wikipedia copy-pasters would rearrange sentences to make sure they can game the plagiarism checker.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    Microsoft Word had auto summarize as far back as the early 2000s (and probably before then, I only found it my junior or senior year of high school). Plop a wall of text into a word docume, click auto summarize, limit the number of direct quotes to three words max, hit enter. I was clever af (except that one paper on Gorbachev where the paragraph entirely composed of wingdings exposed my strategy a bit), or so I'd have thought.

    Lo and behold my cheating somehow didn't prepare me for regular life, and so I had to learn lessons in college (the one year that I went), and early on in my career, in my early 20s, that I should've learned in school. The lesson was that you sometimes need to just do the fucking work. Hopefully the kids in this experiment learned that, but more than likely they learned to cheat better.

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  • [–] 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Okay fine and all, but are we not going to talk about the cat?

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  • [–] 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    We can talk about it if you’d like

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  • [–] 50 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    39% of the submissions were at least partially written by AI

    That's better than my class. I taught CS101 last year, code not papers. 90%+ of the homework was done with AI. There was literally just 1 person who would turn in unique code. Everyone else would turn in ChatGPT code.

    I adapted by making the homework worth very little of the grade and moving the bulk of the grade to in-class paper and pencil exams.

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  • [–] 22 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    My algorithms professor does that too and it's better than nothing but still causes problems.

    For example I still have to do other classes' homework before I can start studying.

    Meanwhile cheaters can just skip homework for the other classes and focus on studying for exam.

    I still appreciate this technique much better than the more popular alternative of "make exams much harder to make up for the grade inflation." Thank you.

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I think a good way to deal with this would be assignments that also (partly) prepare you for the written exam. So if you sit down and do it yourself and actually understand the assignment you already did some learning for the exam.

    I had one course at university with homework assignments that were super tough. I did it all by myself but in the end I learned so much that I didn't even need to study for the written exam and got a top grade. Others who did not do their assignments on their own had to study hard for the written exam and in most cases got way worse grades or failed.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    Yeah I had a class once where the exams were always just slightly modified versions of some of the homework questions. So if you were confident you could understand and complete all the homework you knew you'd be fine on the exam. It actually caused some people to study more since they felt like there was a more 1:1 between study time and exam success.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago

    I think a good way to deal with this would be assignments that also (partly) prepare you for the written exam. So if you sit down and do it yourself and actually understand the assignment you already did some learning for the exam.

    My networking degree was built on a similar principle. A large part of the degree was configuring Cisco switches and routers, which is done through a command line interface, and you can streamline this by copy/pasting a series of commands. The first test was simply setting the hostname, a password and configuring ssh access. This was a full hour+ test, meanwhile by the end of the semester that was the first five minutes of an hour long test to configure more advanced functionality on these devices

    The entire degree program was setup so that you take the configs you wrote in the first week and keep building onto them and keep copy/pasting bits and pieces of the configs all the way through graduation and into the workforce.

    I could absolutely see a programming degree program taking a similar approach, where you write code snippets in the first class of your freshman year that evolve and you're ultimately still using by the time you graduate. It forces you to know your code, gives you good code to build off of professionally and makes it really difficult to coast by with nasty hacks and/or AI doing it all for you. It also sets the perfect trap for those trying to have AI do everything for them, where they won't know what it's doing or why it's breaking as the underlying snippets are constantly being changed. Especially if it's structured with a lot of easy "plumb your existing snippets together" assignments where it's dead simple for those actually doing the coursework but really hard for those relying on AI entirely. They'll be forced to learn or drop out which is really important for a college experience!

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