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Why would every American buy one if they can't afford insurance + medical bills to pay for health care? "Oh look, I'm having a heart attack. Good to know. Guess I'll just keep working."

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Don’t fucking tell me what to do.

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  • [–] 120 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    So the vaccine is the government implanting a tracker into me, but watches that track my vitals and send them God knows where is hunky dory?

    These anti government types always have such a hard time when they become the government.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    Having watched his actual statement, is not that they want your data. That's a red herring in the article.

    But that the average American is so out of touch with how food --presumably bad, shitty food and nutrition-- interacts with their body, that them, the individual, being able to know of how, for example, that 2nd Coke, and bag of chips is screwing up your insulin levels, and how it get affected in real time could be a positive drive for change in lifestyle. The fact is that the USA has an obesity pandemic and most people's knowledge of nutritional science can be laughable at best. 60+% of Americans are overweight. And 33% are literally obese, including kids.

    You do not have to buy a wearable. They are not making or forcing to you wear a wearable and they are not going to ask you to show papers before you want to enter a restaurant proving that you use or own a wearable. He said that he would prefer it because how do you empower people who know next to nothing? Is it the only way? Nope. Of course not, but the system has been so captured by interest groups that many changes may not be politically feasible. They could be done in theory but not in practice right now. Europe had s superior take on nutrition than the USA, for example.

    Personally, I would never wear a wearable but I also spent a lot of time studying Nutritional Science and attempt to leave a healthy lifestyle. It is an extra load of work that cuts into other things and not many may want to do but it is one that it is worth doing for yourself and the family.

    Additionally, I have friends who are Doctors and the concept of wearables is not always well received. Privacy concerns aside, the worry is that it can turn a lot of people into hypochondriacs if they do not fully understand some basics of human anatomy and take raw data out of context. Not to mention a waste of resources if people want to run tests for absolutely everything they think might be wrong with it. It can also be a source for unnecessary stress in some people.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Sometimes I want to buy juice that doesn’t have a shitload of sugar in it

    You haven't researched as well as you think you have. Even freshly squeezed juice is unhealthy. You need the pulp too in order to slow the sugar metabolism, in which case you may as well just eat fruit.

    Check Robert Lustig re sugars.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    A wearable will be totally useless if the owner has no clue what he should do or don't. Leaving people with a guilty mood will not help anyone. You cannot improvise yourself a nutritionist and most people cannot. The facts are you must first know how to cook because you will not find a healthy diet in the frozen meal aisle. Also, you cannot improvise yourself a kinesiologist. You cannot establish a sound workout routine without help or some knowledge in this matter.

    That guy, Robert Fucking Kennedy doesn't know shit about how to turn unhealthy people into healthy people. He's just a fucking dork with no real life experience.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    But that the average American is so out of touch with how food --presumably bad, shitty food and nutrition

    A substantial part is that our food is filled with shit.

    They add sugar to everything. Food marketing is insane, and so much of it should be illegal.

    Sometimes I want to buy juice that doesn’t have a shitload of sugar in it. Getting a loaf of bread will involve eating extra sugar. The country subsidizes corn, so high fructose corn syrup is added to everything.

    Unregulated hell capitalism means that food gets to be pumped full of shit. Broke and stressed people rely on convenience foods - which don’t need to be unhealthy but are purposefully made so with addictive ingredients.

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  • [–] 93 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Screw that. Give the government a way to track my vitals 24/7 and sell that information off to their cronies in the private sector? No thanks.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Vitals? You mean location. They don't give a rat's ass about your vitals.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    False. All data has value. Vitals can 100% be used to sell targeted ads for pharmacuticals, supplements, lifestyle brands, gyms, and more. Also if it has a microphone it's listening to everything.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    What types of data does the US sell to advertisers? Do you have ANY evidence of the always listening mic? You'd figure after 10 years of this we'd have at least some evidence, right?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I don't know if the USA currently sells data. It appears to be illegal but the current administration doesn't always play by the rules.

    Have you ever used a phrase activated voice assistant (hey Google, Alexa, Siri). They are always listening in case you use the phrase. Amazon and Google both admit they record and stores voice data. Google sells ads based on search history.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    My watch runs for years from a coin cell. There's no way that I'm replacing it with an internet connected spy device that constantly needs to be charged.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    If it ever comes to this, I'm going to "forget" to charge mine. Every day since it comes out of the box. I might wear it so that I don't get stopped in public but this is going to be a brick.

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  • [–] 54 points 1 year ago

    They lobotomized the wrong Kennedy.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Man, I feel sick, lemme check my health watch.

    status: unhealthy

    Can I receive healthcare?

    no

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Health care is only for the healthy.

    To see if you qualify for an upgrade to healthy status please input your net worth including all stocks, bonds, precious metals, fine art, jewelry & accessories, private aircraft, and yachts.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children)

    You know what else would help? Annual (or more) blood tests during routine wellness checks with your doctor.

    Do you know why most people don't get those?

    Insurance won't cover them. Many insurance providers won't cover them.

    Maybe start there? Although I'm guessing he has no buddies who would make money from routine blood tests.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    The best part is the random bill.

    • Go to the doctor. Get blood drawn.
    • Doctor send the blood to a lab for the test. Doesn't tell me who. I don't care who. It's their subcontractor, let them worry about it. *Go back to the doctor or get a call for results. Pay the doctor the standard co-pay. *Months later a random company sends me a bill. This is a company that I have never interacted with or entered into any contract with, for work that somebody else (presumably my doctor, but who the fuck knows for sure) asked them to do for them, sending the results to that other person and NOT to me.

    The system is broken. If any other company subcontracted a part of their work to a third party, you as the client would reasonably expect that work to be paid through the original contract, not get a bill directly from the subcontractor. I didn't hire them, the doctor hired them. As far as I'm concerned, that's the doctor's subcontractor and their debt, not mine. I paid the doctor already.

    Or another variant.

    • Go to the emergency room.
    • Get separate bills FOR THE SAME SERVICE from the hospital, the doctor, and somehow the hospital again but this time it's the emergency room (which is somehow separate with a different billing company).

    The system is not just broken. It is designed to fleece us and train us to always accept whatever debt the institutions decide to levy on us without question.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The doctor bill is separate because they're not hospital employees. The only have privileges to work at a given hospital, not for them.

    The separate ER bill is likely some fuckery I'm ignorant of.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That would be a violation of the hiipa act. Your samples get sent anonymous to the Lab with only a case number. They only know the adress of the doctor.

    If your doctor didn't anonymise your sample and the lab used it to send you a bill, they're in deep waters.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Somehow I think the national lab test company's lawyers have got them covered. This wasn't exactly a fly by night, no name company. Having in known third party send you a medical bill months later is pretty fucking common place. This was just one anecdote of many, not an isolated incident.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Not when the lab and the hospital are owned by the same company. Promedica (local hospital) sent my sample to Promedica (lab) and I got a bill from the lab. Because Promedica (lab) didn't have my insurance information.

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Only up to $500 though? And if you keep ignoring them, what will you do when you run out of providers? I can't go to the one hand expert in the area because I owe him money. Same for the CVS doc.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    Or how about the variant:

    • submit prescription refill request
    • check back
    • check back
    • check back
    • escalate
    • “we don’t have your insurance info”
    • yes you do but here it is again
    • resubmit prescription refill request
    • check back
    • check back
    • check back
    • escalate
    • “we don’t accept that insurance. Find a new doctor”

    New doctor

    • “why don’t you take your prescriptions regularly?”
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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I love how these extremist Christian Republicans always go on about the mark of the beast and how everyone will be forced to wear it but that the righteous man won't wear it....

    All of them will do this, mark my words. These fuckers are worshipping Satan as far as they know and they're fine with it.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Everyone in America has to give out their social security numbers to every fucking company and government department because it’s the closest thing we have to a national ID.

    Why can’t we have a real, secure, National ID system? Because it’s the mark of the beast!!

    But now that RFK Jr wants to hunt people for sport I’m sure they will fall in line.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    No need for vaccines with 5g chips when the wearable will have one right on your wrist.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    As a non American, even I can see this is just a scam to further invade privacy and the data used to get increase health insurance costs

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Don't wearables cause autism?

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  • He can fuck right off with all his worm-brained ideas.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    He reminds me of the 'precious bodily fluids' general from Dr Strangelove.

    edit: holy crap, I just rewatched the movie and RFK is EXACTLY that general. The general talks about toxins from fluoride in drinking water poisoning our precious bodily fluids. He even looks a bit like RFK. Its almost RFK is trying to act exactly like that general.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Guess we’ll cut food stamps but tell people who can afford to to get a watch

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    American evangelicals when the government suggests getting a vaccine for a deadly virus- "IT'S THE MARK OF THE BEAST DON'T GET IT OR YOU'LL GO TO HELL"

    American evangelicals when people they voted for say you need to wear something on your wrist to participate in society - "This is fine"

    A wearable computer is much more similar in form to what is described in the Book of Revelation than a vaccine is, but these dumbasses don't see that because they're not operating on logic but instead are just doing what they're told.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Anti-science brain worm dumbfuck says what?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Fuck you RFK my Casio can't and won't connect to the internet, go swim in more sewage you dolt

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    casio calculator watch or bust

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    And I want RFK, along with the rest of these anti-human ghouls to be dropped into an active volcano, but we don't always get what we want, do we?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Something something government tracking with microchips

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    From: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/21/rfk-maha-ultra-processed-foods

    A key adviser to Kennedy, Calley Means, could directly benefit from one of the campaign’s stated aims: popularizing “technology like wearables as cool, modern tools for measuring diet impact and taking control of your own health”.

    Calley Means is a senior Kennedy adviser, and was hired as a special government employee to focus on food policy, according to Bloomberg. He founded a company that helps Americans get such wearable devices reimbursed tax-free through health savings accounts.

    Casey Means is Calley’s sister. She also runs a healthcare start-up, although hers sells wearable devices such as continuous glucose monitors. She is Kennedy’s nominee for US surgeon general, and a healthcare entrepreneur whose business sells continuous glucose monitors – one such wearable device. Calley Means’s company also works with Casey’s company.

    Due to Calley Means’s status as a special employee, he has not been forced to divest from his private business interests – a situation that has already resulted in an ethics complaint. Consumer advocates, such as the non-profit group Public Citizen, had warned such hiring practices could cause conflicts of interest. HHS did not respond to a request for comment about Calley Means’s private business interests, or his role in crafting the publicity campaign.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    As long as the wearable contains open source software and preferably open source hardware, then sure, I'd be willing to do so. Because then I could know that I could control where the data went.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Because then I could know that I could control where the data went.

    It being open source doesn't mean you can mosify and run your own software on it and still have the agency accept you are compliant.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    What about sporting insertables instead?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I'm gonna need a detailed explanation of exactly what you mean, for the purposes of clear and effective communication.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Insertables go into your butt.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Mandating Americans use 'wearables' for health reasons thats coming from the same party that, when asked to wear a mask during a worldwide pandemic for the public health decried government overreach, claiming it was like living in nazi germany, and even discredited Fauci over his very true claims of wearing masks helping to save lives. I truly cant wait to see what that side has to say about Junior here, gotta keep that same energy right??

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    "Wearables" but they forget to mention it's about government mandated trackers in a closed ecosystem.
    They will track which bad (health or otherwise) groups of people one has come in contact with and make deductions based on that.

    Ofcourse it's also extra business for the ice teams. And the deluxe wearable also tracks payments.

    The European Covid tracking app back then already was very scary in its early setup ... and this mandated wearable idea will be far worse.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Sporting a wearable pump that injects worm eggs into your blood periodically

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Follow the money. Nominee for surgeon general has a stake in wearable tech.

    Just like when those scatter machines were forced on the TSA, it's because the person in charge had a stake in the company making them.

    My company gave these things away to each employee for some 'fitness challenge' between departments....I never even opened the package. My group was mad at me for not helping win the free lunch or whatever it was .... Until I made them read the privacy policy. Many stopped wearing them immediately

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Years ago I purchased a Fossil Explorist Q wearable smartwatch. The first software update, about a month after I bought it, turned the device from a functional smartwatch into a brick that was so slow it was nearly nonfunctional.

    The device was not powerful enough to run all the spyware they tried to pack into that update, turning it into an on wrist heater, occasionally getting Hot enough to burn me.

    I've never seen a device so thoroughly destroyed by enshittification so quickly. That's experience turned me off of wearables forever. Maybe I'll make my own someday. Maybe I'll get a Pebble now that they're back-ish. I'll never get anything with wearOS on it again. Hell after the last year I might never get something with Android/iOS again either.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    to do what with? unless you're going to also increase grants to nih studies for wearable devices to study and improve something involving the health system, what is the benefit besides making apple richer?

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I chose to stop wearing a watch more than 20 years ago. I thought about getting one for the health benefits five years ago, but concluded that I don't want to have a watch nor cover an awesome tattoo. As a friend once wrote, "wearing a watch is like being handcuffed to time."

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Do you take your phone everywhere? Does it have a clock you use on it?

    So, guess the only difference is that one has an armband and the other you stare at for a lot longer?

    If you do not have a phone either, then hats off to you.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Every time I see this Nazi Aristocrat, I am reminded that I have to sharpen my guillotine.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    The only wearable I would ever consider wearing, is something like the thing Zack Friedman of Voidstar Labs made for himself.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    yeh... like that worm in your head huh

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    RFK jr’s wants, needs, desire to continue breathing move me not at all.

    He can fuck off.

    If we had a science-backing and non-Nazi government who I had any belief in their ability and will to keep our data safe, this might be really cool. When I first got an Apple Watch and saw all the ways it benefits me I honestly wished everyone had one by default.

    Instead, something like this would simply be used to further control people especially women since it can track monthly cycles (to my knowledge at least.)

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