I'd rather getting all out of the way before I'm 30, so I can rule the wastelands.
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lol shartzer
That's the girl from the cat videos?
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Jokes on you. I watched 9/11 in elementary school.
Some millennials are over 40. Doesn't change the point but let's be factual here
Fuck I'm old :((((((
I'm here with you on that. We got to see Biff in back to the future and now we get to see a Biff Larper as president.
All Biff and no hoverboard? Bogus!
Considering Biff was based on Trump in the 80s...
Yeah, you can change high-school to college, and 40 to 45 for me, but the point doesn't really change.
I'm 43. Look at me go.
I was trying to think of some shit going down in the 80s.
All I can think of is Chernobyl melt down in 86.
Challenger explosion, televised straight into so many classrooms
Not the 80’s, but the early-mid 90’s were rife with evidence of the U.S.’s decline.
Rodney King beatings, the highway of death in Iraq, the rise to prominence of Fox News, the mass destruction of the ‘93 floods, all those communities destroyed by the shift to zero tolerance policies, and the deevoludtion of national political debate into contentious identity politics by 24-hour news channels.
In the 80’s you had Bhopal and 3-mile island, too. And the savings and loan crisis, I think.
Mutually Assured Destruction was pretty big at the time. The rot really started to set in with Reagan.
Oh shut up.
—GenX
Also the middle-eastern millenials getting bombed, occupied, and bombed again during each of these.
I’m 42 and this is deep.
Aye gather round elder Millennials, our watch has begun
Back in ye day we hath this magical place called “limewire” it could brick your mothers gateway computer without a moments notice.
Heh, I don't think that's as old as you're expecting; I'm 35 and I, too, installed Limewire on the family computer (and probably downloaded so much malware…).
28 and also downloaded some Linkin Park that was actually George W. Bush on the good ol limewire. Admittedly I was probably the tail end of that.
I'm so fucking over this shit yall. Don't forget the corporate takeover and surveillance dystopia created by quite possibly the biggest dork losers that are alive. What the actual fuck? Need a genocide. Check. Civil rights collapse? Check. Financial meltdown? Check. Pandemic that kills millions? Check. Collapse of the dollar for shitcoin scams? Check pending. Terrorist attacks that convince your country for 20 years of wars? Check. No more war excuses, and need more? No worries, we'll just recycle the same one from 25 years ago because y'all couldn't do shit about it then either. They have nukes so we have to attack.
Now, go be a good citizen and participate in some blind nationalism and virtue signaling with your pledge of allegiance to an inanimate object while simultaneously and intentionally starving brown kids by the thousands.
Can't a giant EMP come and save us? I'm so tired.
Don't forget Columbine. People always leave that out, but as far as historical milestones that shaped how awful American society has become, it was a big one.
My high school experience started with Columbine freshman year and ended with 9/11 senior year. Life has been so crazy.
Now we get one every week!
It is insane how common it's become.
It's hard to even explain to people that there was a time when it used to be a very shocking thing to hear about.
"Back in my day, parents didn't have to send their kids off to school every morning pretending everything was normal, but internally struggling with anxiety they might never see them again."
We had some copycats here in Germany and of course Counterstrike or some other game was to blame. Not the very real weapons the people were shot with.
Everyone's always quick to declare the beginning of World War 3, to pass every event through that lens. Inadvertently, it provides cover for the fact that Cold War 2 already started.
Did the Cold War ever really end? I feel like the names of the players may have changed, but the board is still there and the pieces are still moving.
There was a bit of a moment after the USSR dissolved where the US was just kinda spinning its wheels without any clear purpose. We still had all the institutions for weapons manufacturing, intelligence gathering, financial strong-arming -- they were still doing their thing, but without an overall narrative to give a unified sense of purpose.
You can almost imagine 9/11 being somewhat of a relief -- like, oh thank god a clear external enemy, now we don't have to struggle justifying our continued existence. And, of course, now our leaders can't agree on weather we're in existential conflict with Russia or China or both. This go round, we are the crumbling gerontocracy.
Cold War 2 is not so much the superpowers vying against each other, but desperately attempting to retrench their power over the global south and their own citizens. The adversarial stance is largely political theatre to manifest the narrative of great powers locked in competition, while in reality Moscow and Washington meet in private to decide the fate of Ukraine and Iran. (I’m also counting China here)
I don't think anyone is seriously "declaring" WW3. It's just an acknowledgement that there's a lot of unrest in many different regions.
A global conflict in 2025 would be very different to WW2.
Cyber attacks could decimate a country's ability to make war.
We didn’t start the fire. It was always burning since the world’s been turning. No we didn’t light it, but we tried to fight it.
Probably not better if you were born in 1900. You were born in an European Monarchy. Life is not exactly free, but stable and prosperous.
Some psycho stabs a queen, and all of a sudden all of Europe and a lot of the rest of the world is at war. Most of Europe is razed to the ground and millions of soldiers return with heavy PTSD.
The monarchy is done, you got a completely new system in Europe and a communist revolution in Eastern Europe/Russia.
Times such, but stability returns for a few years until the Great Depression hits and boom, we got Nazis, holocaust, and yet another world war, which is ended by a literal science fiction weapon that can raze whole cities to the ground at the press of a button.
And now your country is occuped by a foreign army, while everything has to be rebuilt.
Seriously, the phase from 1955-2000 was an anomaly. That was pretty much the most peaceful time in world history. Before that, constant wars, pagues, starvation and general horrors were the norm, not the exception.
And even with that, you are glossing over the Spanish Flu. The "peaceful" time since the '50s included numerous massive wars, not least of which was the Vietnam war.
The idea that every time period has its own chaos is the whole point of the song We Didn't Start the Fire, written in 1989.
I have a much lesser ww3 vibe than when the Ukraine thing started. It hasn't even crossed my mind but it keeps popping up everywhere. Perhaps I'm missing something crucial here.
Perhaps I’m missing something crucial here.
For me, the crucial bit here is political ideology vs. religion. Russia invading Ukraine is purely political in my opinion, whereas the Israel/Iran conflict can't really be separated from religion. Might be spitballing here, but religious fanatics might be more extremist (willing to escalate war to defend their beliefs) than political fanatics. I also think USA's historical defense of Israel is in play here, whereas USA's involvement with Ukraine hasn't really been a thing.
Yep I've got anxiety and I honestly thought something awful would happen. For about 6 weeks I was taking a rucksack with clothing, food and wind up radio wherever i went.
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