Even if they pay the right people, it may still suck if they try to influence the creative process at all. Over all, I am not optimistic.

So there’s a chance it can still suck if Amazon pays the wrong people to make it.

Rings of Power.

Produced by just means “paid for by,” anyway.

The problem is when they abruptly cut off funding and sit on the IP indefinitely.

That's what they did to James Bond .

Or if they demand changes, which usually comes with the territory of the person writing the checks.

I think it was 3 seasons at syfy.

There is a bit of a shift between season 3 and 4.

Then why did it get so much worse after it shifted to Amazon? The first three seasons are a good adaptation, the next three spiral and make some really bad changes to the text of the books. I recommend that new viewers only watch enough to get hooked and then go read the books.

Hey now. No need to drag shitbuckets through the mud here. 🤌🏼

SyFy was unable to turn it into a source of revenue

I feel like Amazon totally missed the boat on this too.

Like, where was the merch? why didn't they capitalize on the popularity of it? where were the T-shirts, the cosplay outfits, the toys, the model kits? you know the Expanse fanbase would buy model kits.

They have a fucking online retail store, which they control the advertising on, plus every possible contact in the manufacturing industry they could possibly need. Promoting merch for the series would've been so fucking easy, and producing it would've cost them next to nothing compared to the show production.

I went in thinking "ok, fan fiction, alternate take on the universe", and it was an ok show with some surprisingly great parts. Then the season two plot was just a turtle fucking a snail, and I was done.

Edit: to be clear, it was slow motion WTF, why is this nothing happening?

Eh I had accepted the major and completely unnecessary changes. In fact, I got used to them and was really enjoying it in the last season as it was finally getting better.

Then it got cancelled for no reason.

Maybe you can clear this up for me, but I didn't like it because I couldn't "connect" with any of the characters. Many of the scenes, for all the amazing set, costume, and effects work, just felt flat and uninteresting. Also, the story as told just felt odd like it was hard to follow for some reason. Do you happen to know of a better breakdown of what went wrong here? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills since I can't exactly quantify why I found something with high production values not hitting the mark somehow.

but the boxes amazon was shipping things in to promote wheel of time where really nice, I still have one

I'm going to remain cautiously optimisic, they have a lot of the original SG-1 and Atlantis writers and team, as well as some of the crew associated to the movies. But to be honest I'm scared, and 10 episode seasons is already a taste for amazons poor management.

(I won't get over the SIX episodes for the final season of the Expanse, which I'd still consider a content quality win as far as amazon is involved)

are you talking about sanderson or the show because i can believe both.

Exactly! I was riding in on a noble steed to say how even the named series were okay, but definitely deviated from the source material in ways that altered the morals and viewpoint being pushed (I'll never forgive what they did to my amos). Like, it's always going to happen when you change mediums. Just look at how many arguments about how 'all batman does is beat up people' that are constantly seen, which is all thanks to the arkham games where, predictably because it's easy to build the gameplay around, all batman does is beat up thousands of folks. The fear is that even here, without a change of medium, the desire to adapt it to a modern audience is going to drive the writers to ruin the old feeling of the series. Hell, even when produced in the nearly same time frame, the 'adaptation' of star gate universe didn't do well.

i'll take 10 episodes of gold over 1000 episodes of shit.

This is the way.

SEAL THE IRIS!

good omens? if that even comes back for a final season. sandman for netflix you can tell how cheap the set is,right up to thier clothes and props.

i have a feeling it will be like ROP, or TREK( have someone that doesnt know or care about the franchise become its showrunner, kurtzman)

Haven't you tried previous elder scrolls ? Oblivion ? Morrowind ?

Dishonored is from Arkane: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkane_Studios#Games_developed

I'd highly recommend Dishonored 2, Prey, and Deathloop as well. You will love them if you like Dishonored 1.

As for being Bethesda... it's confusing.

There's Bethesda Softworks, which is a giant publisher, a 'brand' with a bunch of studios under them. Including Arkane.

Then there's Bethesda Game Studios, the game dev, owned by Bethesda Softworks. When most gamers say 'Bethesda', they're usually referring to BGS, as they're the ones that make the Elder Scrolls/Fallout games, as well as Starfield.

...And just to add to the confusion, all this was bought by Microsoft.

Arkane still exists. Their sister studio (Arkane Austin) got shut but the main studio responsible for Dishonored is still around.