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[–] 15 points 11 months ago (1 child)

Because they are dicks? Is there any reasonable justification for not returning your cart? Claiming to be creating jobs is just BS. Either you strive to be a productive part of society or you only look out for yourself. The shopping cart indicator is a decent tool for separating these two types of people.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I always return my cart rain or shine no matter how far away the return is. But there was one time I didn't when I moved to a new neighborhood and went to the local grocer for the first time. This particular store shared a parking lot with a hardware store. I parked in a spot I thought was on the grocery store side of the lot, but I guess not? I bring my cart out and I'm almost to my car when suddenly the wheels lock up and I can't move the cart anymore. turns out they have a system in their carts to prevent people from stealing them. But I guess the zone for that is up to interpretation because I really feel like I was parked on the grocery side of the lot even if off to the side a bit. I ended up leaving the cart and just walked my groceries to my car. I blame the store for not properly marking the zone or improperly setting it in the first place. Not much I could do about it otherwise.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Try the German solution. To get a cart, you have to put a Euro into the cart to unchain it. When you return it, you chain it back on and get the Euro back.

    Works for many years now, and people have been conditioned to it, so they return even "hacked" carts (there are tools to unchain them without a coin).

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    People will leave their trollies anywhere but in car parks. Bicycle rqcks? Fair game. Foot paths? Yeah sure. Car parks? Nah that would inconvenience people.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

    I think you're onto something. My gut tells me it related to car culture, but it could also be some specific cultural entitlement related to something as simple as "the customer is always right" and "have it your way" mentality.
    It'd be fun to figure out if this happens elsewhere in the world. I don't think it happens much in Europe, but I only live in one of the countries, Denmark, and we all have to use a 10 or 20 krone coin (like 1½ dollars and 3 dollars) or a token that fits (often free from the store) to "rent" trolleys and I think that psychologically help give some temporary feeling of ownership of the cart making one more likely to return it.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    It's not the coin. It's the education. We European aren't educated as selfish people.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I’m a Midwestern transplant to Los Angeles. Honestly? It’s fucking hard to return your cart in Los Angeles. While my past self would call anyone out returning their cart an asshole, I can’t anymore because 90% of stores here just refuse to put out any cart corrals.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    Over 500 Cart Narcs videos where watched to get this data. It was a fun read!

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    [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    I really want to like this article, but I don't care for the example of the old man.

    It's not the only example that's lacking any sense of nuance or empathy, but it's probably the worst. I say this as someone who has never left a cart out. I even used to put other people's away if they were on my way. I can be a rule-follower to a fault.

    Anyway.

    I'm not old, but I'm physically disabled such that I don't use carts anymore. It's just too hard, too exhausting, too painful. I almost never buy more than I can carry in a basket.

    If I did push a cart (especially full) out to my car, me still being well enough to return it is extremely questionable. I'd likely have to sit and recover a bit before doing so. Being disabled this way can be a lot like just being really old. I've come to empathize with them so much more these past few years.

    You could argue that we should ask for help from staff in that scenario, but how often do you see grocery store staff who aren't busy with something? It's probably less of a burden on them to gather that cart up whenever they gather the rest of the carts that haven't been returned.

    But definitely "fuck you" to the lady who left her cart in the middle of a handicapped spot.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    This was almost a decade ago, but when I was a bagger we would help people unload their groceries into their car fairly often. It wasn't at all weird to ask for help from staff. They have other things to do but other than the cashier it's almost always non-urgent and a lot lower priority than helping out a customer. Then we would just take the cart back when we went back inside. Grabbing a wayward cart along with others isn't much of a hassle either but they can roll into people's cars if they're just left on pavement.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    My husband has cerebral palsy. When he lived by himself he never returned the carts. Because he physically could not. He used the cart as balance to get to the car. If he took it back, he'd have nothing to use as balance to get back to the car.

    But how'd he get inside with no cart? He wasn't taxed yet from walking and shopping and could get to the carts to use as balance. He also hoped other people would leave a cart out nearby so he could grab that.

    These days we go in, grab an electric for him, and we return that for him once he's in the car.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Exactly! I can't comment as to their health or medical condition, but I have seen that exact scenario more than once. Someone relying on the cart to hold themselves up, that is.

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  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why don't they just put AI into the carts so they return themselves?

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I went to a futuristic distopian grocery store the other day. Awful time there. As I'm pushing the cart to my car in the parking lot, the wheels suddenly lock electronically as I cross some invisible threshold. "Fuck this" I thought, and took my bags out and carried them the rest of way to my car.

    Leaving the cart, wheels locked, in the parking lot.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I wonder how much of this behavior is caused by enormous parking lots and shopping by car. where i live there is a packing area next to the cart return. I put my stuff into bags and backpack there, then return the cart. No hassle at all. If I had to go a couple of hundred meters to return the cart, I might come up with excuses too. Lots of our decisions are driven by the environment we live in. Reasons are made up after the fact.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago

    We’re job creators

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  • [+] -6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I'm lazy as shit, no investigation required.

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  • [+] -16 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Ngl, some random asshole comes up to me in a parking lot, I'd have a weapon ready and warn them off before they got close enough I had to use it. Those people walking up to strangers got a lot of threats, but they're damn lucky nobody carried them out.

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    The fuck?

    Your reaction to someone--a neighbor of yours, most likely, whether you know them or not--is to immediately threaten them with a weapon before they can even get a word out?

    You'd be the one in jail after that and you'd deserve it. Maybe work on your paranoia and aggression.

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