Everyone is focusing on the sex-act, but what about the Putin /photos part? This suggests strongly that Putin does have Kompromat on Trump, which is long suspected.
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I loathe clickbait titles. The statement:
For the avoidance of doubt, the reference to ‘Bubba’ in this correspondence is not, in any way, a reference to former President Bill Clinton,” Mark Epstein said in an apparent statement, shared by Shamsian on social media late Saturday.
Any attempt to conflate that reference with President Clinton, or to read sweeping implications onto them, misrepresents both the purpose and the tone of the original correspondence. I want to be absolutely clear on this point so that the public record is not distorted and so that speculation does not unfairly implicate people who are not actually being referenced in those communications.
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Until he provides clear representation of both the purpose and tone of the original correspondence and who or what Bubba reallu is, I don't see a reason to not believe that it is Clinton.
Maxwell owned a horse named Bubba
So of all the Bubbas in the world, you need specific evidence that it isn't one particular Bubba?
Why does anyone think that either Trump or Bill Clinton would want that blowjob to happen?
I don't really think that it refers to Clinton but I don't like being told "it's not this but I'm not going to tell you what it is".
Depends what they got for doing it. Sounds to me like an initiation ritual/insurance policy for joining a secret club... what secret club might they have both been a part of where they would think that was a worthwhile entrance fee?
You might as well tell me jet fuel can't melt steel beams at this point. The shark has been jumped.
Well for me, the fact that an hour before it leaked, trump had 3 outbursts, one to the repulicans that are trying to get it released, one to the democrats about the same thing but more desperate and deranged sounding than normal, and one directly about how they are gonna look into bill clintons ties to epstein.... all an hour before we found out what he was mad about.... like we didn't even have to guess it was bill, trump basically told us by having no self control.
So, I guess he got a heads up about what was gonna leak.
This also explains to me why he's so freaked out about the Epstein files in the first place. I don't think he really understands how strongly a lot of his bade feels about the pedophilia.
Letting slip that he gave a blowjob, though? I can see him panicking endlessly about that getting out.
That's super weak reasoning, though. Clinton has been associated with Epstein in the past. If Trump wants to deflect from scrutiny about his dealings with Epstein, he's going to try to point people at Clinton. He's done it before! If he wants to deflect about something Epstein had on him involving what he was doing with Clinton, he's not going to point everyone to Clinton.
I think if you believe Trump blew Clinton you probably think Vance fucks couches.
I definitely wouldn't say it's a certainty, but it's a pretty strong coincidence to have all three of those sudden outbursts back to back out of the blue if they are completely unrelated. And even if that didn't happen the odds were already high enough before making that connection.
That behaviour is very much in-line with those types of clubs. Whether the illegal thing be drugs, or sex stuff, or just the actual real life secret political clubs that were only about corruption and collusion, which sound super tame now, but are already bad enough. And those clubs do very often end up coming out that they were still infiltrated with spies, or started by spies in some cases. Like, these aren't uncommon or brand new, they have been around for thousands of years.
It's actually very believable.
Has vance ever denied it?
I think the more interesting part to emphasize is the last sentence. It really draws attention to the parts he didn't say
Clearly this fucker knows more than he is telling. We should waterboard some answers out of the scummy bastard for trying to keep dick sucking Donnie's secrets . If he knows who it ain't then he knows who it is.
Why isn't he under investigation? Why isn't Michael Wolf being investigated for criminal conspiracy? He was literally directing Epstein on how best to blackmail Trump. Is that not a crime?
Weird, I'm suddenly all in favor for waterboarding. 🤔
Eh, torture in any form doesn't work. Unless your goal is the torture itself.
Everyone talks under torture, but no one tells the truth, they simply say whatever the torturer wants to hear, because that's the fastest way to end the torture.
Now, I am in favor of anyone advocating for torture going through it themselves. You'd eventually see much less torture in the world.
SHOCKING. I am so shocked right now. I was 167% sure Donald Trump gave Bill Clinton a blowjob, and it was in no way like that Couch fucking thing. My world is shattered.
It's sensationalist muckraker post-truth "journalism"
Exactly the kind MAGA has been churning out for years
I, for one, completely believe the brother of infamous sex trafficking pedophile Jeffery Epstein.
You know what? Call me a hopeless square, but if you think Jeffrey Epstein was creepy, his brother is sketchy as fuck too if you ask me. He seems to know entirely too much for a man who isn't in prison. Maybe a couple of interviews with the house oversight committee would do America good.
But I guess we shouldn't antagonize the only source of credible material that has any chance of bringing Trump down. So painful though it is to admit it, I'm willing to let it slide for the brother.
Oh and yeah, where I come from, "bubba" means "brother": maybe he was the one Trump sucked off?
So he denied that “bubba” was Bill Clinton, but did not retract that there was a photo out there of Trump blowing “bubba”. So trump has most definitely sucked a cock or two in his day.
So it was the horse, then.
He says it's not a Clinton... But won't say what it actually meant...
But one thing I've seen in other articles is that "Bubba" can be used by pedophilea to refer to boys.
And I could have sworn at least two boys have sued trump for sexual assault already.
It's much worse than Clinton, he's a (presumably) consenting adult. But if we keep saying it's Clinton, there's a chance one of these idiots say what it actually meant.
"Bubba" can be used by pedophilea to refer to boys.
Suddenly bubba means 37 things I've never heard.
The old trick to get the right answer on the internet. You don't post the question, you post the wrong answer very confidently. Someone will correct you.
It's a beautiful statement. He wanted to clarify that it wasn't Clinton as to "not implicate anyone innocent", implying that if Trump didn't actually blow someone and/or Putin didn't have evidence of it, he would have made that very clear.
The fact the brother made an effort to clarify who it isn’t vs who it is seems like it just puts a target on his own back. Not sure why he’d volunteer any info after what happened to his brother…
If Bill Clinton was cool he'd record a video confirming he got top from trump. Even if it wasn't true.
If Bubba was a human male, would that make Trump the first known queer president? I guess if Bubba was Bill Clinton, that would make Clinton the first known queer president?
There was definitely a full on homosexual president. Buchanan lived with William King for over a decade.
No. He sucked dick because he's a pervert and a wild sexual deviant, not because he's gay.
ANYTHING before a woman.
Jill Stein would've been great.
Unfortunately, the democrats think voters are blind enough to vote for someone 'just because' they're a woman, regardless of how much they support the working class.
It's a pretty bad strategy and has resulted in 2 donald trump presidencies thus far.
Jill Stien exists to help Russia, she’s not a good candidate based on her losing every election she’s involved with by a landslide.
Why do we have to listen to what this guy says his words meant back then? Is he an esteemed author? Do we have to analyze his intent? WHERE IS JA??
And you know people are getting nervous when the brother has to crawl out and “set the record straight”.
Is there some reason why we should believe his brother?
Dunno. He was the author of the original comment in the email though.
So what. He isn't saying who bubba is.
I think Bubba == Bill Clinton is "too cute" a story without corroborating evidence
So, I'm inclined to believe him
I figure it wasn't a literal blowjob but trump blowing sunshine up the ass of some sap he was trying to con.
Ah yes, putin is blackmailing Trump with a pic of him... Sucking up to someone?
I didn't mention putin. Its pretty clear that putin has something on him but the subject of this thread is a epstien email about trump. Not pooty poot.
The epstein email specifically asking if putin had the photo. I didn't bring vladdy in for no reason.
By the way, here are the files, lest they'd disappear.
But the "sucking" part is the one we are laughing at. Doesn't really matter who was on the receiving end.
Apparently, there are two known "Bubba" in that fucked up story, Clinton and one of Maxwell's horse. Not sure which would be worse for Trump to be honest
if a minor, it would matter
I still remember seeing a news clip during trump's first term when he was at some dinner seated at a long table (don't remember if it was Helsinki or some other event they both attended), where Putin was on the opposite side and a ways down the table from him. He kept looking at Putin trying to catch his eye and get his attention and when Putin looked his way, trump looked at him made a pumping motion with his hand in a you-know-what motion, just like he was inviting him for a hand job. No one in the media made any comment about what he was doing, but I was shocked and replayed the clip a few times to check if I was seeing what I thought I was seeing. That's what it looked like to me.




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