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[–] 86 points 1 year ago* (28 children)

i had oat butter a while back, and suddenly I understood why all the dairy conglomerates are lobbying hard about the legal names

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Because they stand to lose a shit ton of money?

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  • [–] 85 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    yes

    oat milk is an alright substitute, helped by being cheap

    oat ice cream has a slightly different texture and flavor, though its harder to notice in the Ben & Jerry's

    But oat butter is indistinguishable from cow butter

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah, all of these dairy substitutes are different products and better for different applications. I think oat milk is actually better in coffee than cow's milk, for example. I wish people would talk about them this way. Most of the time people only say they're replacements for dairy, and they don't go into detail where different options are better/worse.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    for straight drinking, soylent is the best milk replacement. I dare say it's better than milk

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    That's because cow butter in many cases has like 0 unsaturated fatty acids. In such cases it doesn't even come from cows, but they hydrogenate oil to make a cheap and unhealthy replacement.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Idk, we always used corn butter or margarine, it just tastes better. Not even from a veganism standpoint, it just better.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Margarine tastes nothing like butter.

    And when you start looking at it from a chemical composition standpoint, they are very different things (and I'm no chemist).

    I have nothing against margarine, used a lot of it in my life - it has it's uses, but it isn't butter, anymore than cream cheese is butter or margarine, though the three have similarities.

    If you spend any time baking, all 3 have their use-cases, and can rarely sub for the other.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    And when you start looking at it from a chemical composition standpoint, they are very different things

    Eh, not really. I mean, maybe an actual chemist would disagree that this makes them quite similar, but the difference is basically one single bond becomes a double bond. To a lay person, at least, they appear chemically very similar.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    So? I said that we used margarine in our house as a default. It worked perfectly for baking cake in the years we did it at home, you can saute things with it instead of butter, and it just works.

    I don't care if it tastes different, it's better. Feel free to have your opinion.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Whaat.

    Of course you can have e your own opinion and preferences but surely you have to acknowledge that most people prefer real butter?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    And I prefer real margarine. Your point? We've had margarine in our home since I was born and it works just fine. Why do I need to acknowledge the tastes of others when I say mine, when no one has done it in the thread?

    Did you write the same comment to the one right before me suggesting oat butter?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Where do they sell oat butter? I need to try that

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They lobbied and won against margarine back during WW2. It couldn't even be dyed yellow, you got a little packet of yellow dye to add to your white colored margarine at home. This lasted into the mid 1960s when they just started dying the margarine like butter.

    Personally growing up on a dairy farm, I'm fine with making the distinction. Like you can't label food something that it's not. You can only call Scotch whisky Scotch only if it's made in Scotland. Same with cheeses and wines in Italy and France. It's a guarantee you are getting what you paid for, the real thing. And not some fake chemical concoction. It goes even so far as soap. Did you ever notice that Dove is called a beauty bar and not soap?

    Go ahead and eat all the oat butter and drink all the oat milk you want if you like it. Oats are a pretty under used crop. The majority of it ends up as horse feed. Oats are a high food value food even for humans. I enjoy making oat bread. It's quick, simple, and tasty. Along side of a chili or soup, it makes for a hearty and nutritious meal.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (2 children)

    Japanese Scotch has entered the conversation

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    No, Japanese scotch cannot not be legally labeled as Scotch no more than American made scotch can be legally labeled as such. They can be labeled as Malt whisky, The whisky needs to be aged and bottled in Scotland to legally be labeled Scotch anywhere in this world. Even a quick google would tell you that.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    I’ve never heard of Japanese scotch. I’ve heard of Japanese whiskey, which I have a couple bottles of and they’re quite good, but they’re not scotch. Scotch has to be made in Scotland, otherwise it’s not scotch. I tried looking up “Japanese scotch” and didn’t find anything. Just Japanese whiskey.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Oat butter is a thing that exists? That's wild.

    There's a silly, change-resistant part of me that feels instinctive outrage at this notion. Mostly I'm just curious. I wonder how it's made. Can you start with oat milk and make oat butter? Because it blew my mind when I accidentally whipped double cream so much that it started turning into butter.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Small shops getting pissy about alt milks is my fav bait.

    I bring oat milk in a pocket flask whenever I go to the local coffee shop for dates, which gets some looks, but needs must

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It only counts if you pour the oat milk super slow while maintaining unflinching eye contact with the staff.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    To be fair to that barista, the translation of "oat milk" in French ("lait d'avoine") isn't obvious if you don't already know the word. Also keep in mind that the letter H is (almost) silent in french, so he probably thought that client just had a weird accent when they kept asking for "hawt milk"

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Also hot is “chaud” in French which could sound like “oat”

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yeah but milk is lait, the guy is not dumb enough to think she was ordering some chaud milk by using both languages.

    It’s either lait chaud or hot milk, or "hawt" milk in that case.

    We struggle with the oa sound and some "arrr" sound (that’s what ended our pirate career). The worst English word for a French is probably "horror", it sounds like the name "Aurore" with a hot potato in the mouth, something like "Howwowr"

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    Aurghex!

    J’en ai marre!

    OUI ONLY AAVE NORMALE MILK, MADAME.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Do Americans make this stuff up and really think Europeans don't know what Ost milk is. Bitch please

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I think this can only come from language barrier, oat milk in french is "lait d'avoine" which doesn't sound similar at all.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Oat milk genuinely tastes better than regular milk to me, but it is not cheaper where I'm at.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Somebody with a milk allergy, or intolerance turned me on to oat milk.

    For me, I like it better and it lasts longer in the fridge.

    I haven't really tried cooking with it yet though.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    As far as cooking with it, I mostly just add it to soup. I've not tried anything like baking with it, though. I imagine it'd work just as well, though. Usually for baking what you're really wanting is the dairy fat. And if oak milk is too thin for that, I can vouch for coconut cream.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    There's no freaking way a barista at an airport doesn't know vegetable milks exist. It might happen but damn that's rare nowadays. It takes them nothing to have some vegetable milk on the side, it lasts more so it's not like they might run into supply issues. Weird.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I've seen this image years ago. I don't know how old it was already at that point.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Again, you vastly overestimate our level of English as a nation. The h is a super common problem. And we still think people drinking lait d'avoine are some sort of radicalised weirdos. Also TLS is a small airport, we don't do that sort of fancy stuff here.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    Right, they're confusing Toulouse with a major hub, like Roissy. Some provincial airports are worse than others, but Toulouse is probably not the most cosmopolitan, even with all the aerospace stuff in the area.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    I think this might be a meme about how the french don't like anything that goes against their national values, which heavily relies on eating "proper" food, i.e. no oak milk garbage ... but i could be wrong here.

    like how they refuse to speak any language but french

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I never liked milk much (always tasted cheesy to me, except the raw stuff, that tastes like hay), then I became lactose intolerant. Most alt milks taste better to me, and oat milk is just better in coffee. Say what you will about America but at least I can get oat milk with my decaf at any real coffee shop. Some gas stations have milk alternatives too, but it's not as common.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 child)

    Oat milk isn't rare outside the US. It's a bit harder to get in French coffee shops, but not that much.

    This is just France being French. Especially because Toulouse is a small regional airport.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago*

    Personally, I agree with you. Oat milk just meshes remarkably well with the general flavor profile in coffee. It's thick, has the right general umame taste, and the texture is a lot less offensive than almond milk.

    If I'm making a sweeter coffee, then I'll go for coconut. But oat is definitely superior in regards to complementary tastes. Dairy is versatile (and, IMHO, the only right way to make a properly foamy capuccino), but there's just something in oat milk that just makes coffee feel like a sturdy, rustic, wholesome drink instead of a delicacy.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm pissed at that the word barista exists. In Spanish we have one word and we don't care if you are serving food at tables, beers behind the bar or coffees behind of another bar similar to the previous one.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    We do have the word barista in spanish.

    https://dle.rae.es/barista

    It's not exactly the same as camarero, it's more focused on the coffee part. Same as we also have the word barman, which differs from camarero in that it normally refers to people who mix drinks and cocktails behind the bar.

    https://dle.rae.es/barman

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  • [–] 14 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    This is why it should be called plant juice... Juice comes from plants, not milk. Oat juice ffs

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    I call BULLSHIT! There is NO WAY that anyone who works in this field doesn’t know what oat milk is… keep trying to uproar your fan base but everyone on the PLANET knows what oat milk is…

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    You vastly overestimate the level of English of my compatriots. This is a 100% plausible mistake for the average English speaking French person.
    Also unless it was a Starbucks or some really fancy coffee shop, we absolutely do not have oat milk as standard. And I've been to TLS, I don't recall that kind of coffee shop there.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    I call bullshit too. Especially because I was at this exact airport a couple of weeks ago, and they specifically asked what kind of milk I wanted when I ordered a coffee.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    There are often multiple places to buy coffee in airports.

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  • [–] 6 points 11 months ago

    And you should never underestimate stupidity.

    When I was in the army, during one exercise a fellow NCO didn't have his blank-firing adapter on his rifle, as it's a bright yellow bulb on the end of your barrel. (It does two things, smashing the balsa-wood bullet of the blank and increases pressure in the barrel to enable properly function of the recharge even with the much lower powder-charge of the blank.)

    So I looked closer, and he didn't have the safety catch on safe on his rifle. So I took it away from him — fast. And what you do to secure a gun is to remove the magazine and pull the bolt back to check if it's loaded. And it was. Sure, it's a "blank" with very low charge and balsa wood bullet, but it's still not safe.

    My point being that this fucking töhö had been accepted in leader training and graduated from it in the Finnish military, when even the first minutes of any basic ass gun training should've prevented him from doing precisely what he did; pointing a loaded gun at someone.

    So I can completely believe a Frenchman not knowing what oat milk is, no matter if he worked customer service in an international airport.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Completely agree! I’m a very basic know nothing food wise bitch, I’ve obviously never even had oat milk, or any milk that wasn’t just generic 1% or 2% to the best of my knowledge, and I know what oat milk is. If I was asked to buy it I’d have to read labels but I’m confident the store I shop at carries it and I could succeed in the mission. I’ve never had coffee that wasn’t just shit black drip coffee of whatever store brand grounds are cheapest and it wouldn’t throw me off, a barista has got to have way more exposure than my dumbass.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    haha vegans are soooo stupid, amirite

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Gutted to learn I agree with the French on something.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Why are the French so touchy about their shitty food? Oooh I put a pound of butter on everything! Italy is right next door, take some lessons France!

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