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[–] 86 points 1 year ago* (28 children)

i had oat butter a while back, and suddenly I understood why all the dairy conglomerates are lobbying hard about the legal names

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Because they stand to lose a shit ton of money?

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  • [–] 85 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    yes

    oat milk is an alright substitute, helped by being cheap

    oat ice cream has a slightly different texture and flavor, though its harder to notice in the Ben & Jerry's

    But oat butter is indistinguishable from cow butter

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yeah, all of these dairy substitutes are different products and better for different applications. I think oat milk is actually better in coffee than cow's milk, for example. I wish people would talk about them this way. Most of the time people only say they're replacements for dairy, and they don't go into detail where different options are better/worse.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    for straight drinking, soylent is the best milk replacement. I dare say it's better than milk

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    That's because cow butter in many cases has like 0 unsaturated fatty acids. In such cases it doesn't even come from cows, but they hydrogenate oil to make a cheap and unhealthy replacement.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Idk, we always used corn butter or margarine, it just tastes better. Not even from a veganism standpoint, it just better.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Margarine tastes nothing like butter.

    And when you start looking at it from a chemical composition standpoint, they are very different things (and I'm no chemist).

    I have nothing against margarine, used a lot of it in my life - it has it's uses, but it isn't butter, anymore than cream cheese is butter or margarine, though the three have similarities.

    If you spend any time baking, all 3 have their use-cases, and can rarely sub for the other.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    And when you start looking at it from a chemical composition standpoint, they are very different things

    Eh, not really. I mean, maybe an actual chemist would disagree that this makes them quite similar, but the difference is basically one single bond becomes a double bond. To a lay person, at least, they appear chemically very similar.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    So? I said that we used margarine in our house as a default. It worked perfectly for baking cake in the years we did it at home, you can saute things with it instead of butter, and it just works.

    I don't care if it tastes different, it's better. Feel free to have your opinion.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Whaat.

    Of course you can have e your own opinion and preferences but surely you have to acknowledge that most people prefer real butter?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    And I prefer real margarine. Your point? We've had margarine in our home since I was born and it works just fine. Why do I need to acknowledge the tastes of others when I say mine, when no one has done it in the thread?

    Did you write the same comment to the one right before me suggesting oat butter?

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Where do they sell oat butter? I need to try that

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They lobbied and won against margarine back during WW2. It couldn't even be dyed yellow, you got a little packet of yellow dye to add to your white colored margarine at home. This lasted into the mid 1960s when they just started dying the margarine like butter.

    Personally growing up on a dairy farm, I'm fine with making the distinction. Like you can't label food something that it's not. You can only call Scotch whisky Scotch only if it's made in Scotland. Same with cheeses and wines in Italy and France. It's a guarantee you are getting what you paid for, the real thing. And not some fake chemical concoction. It goes even so far as soap. Did you ever notice that Dove is called a beauty bar and not soap?

    Go ahead and eat all the oat butter and drink all the oat milk you want if you like it. Oats are a pretty under used crop. The majority of it ends up as horse feed. Oats are a high food value food even for humans. I enjoy making oat bread. It's quick, simple, and tasty. Along side of a chili or soup, it makes for a hearty and nutritious meal.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Japanese Scotch has entered the conversation

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago

    No, Japanese scotch cannot not be legally labeled as Scotch no more than American made scotch can be legally labeled as such. They can be labeled as Malt whisky, The whisky needs to be aged and bottled in Scotland to legally be labeled Scotch anywhere in this world. Even a quick google would tell you that.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I’ve never heard of Japanese scotch. I’ve heard of Japanese whiskey, which I have a couple bottles of and they’re quite good, but they’re not scotch. Scotch has to be made in Scotland, otherwise it’s not scotch. I tried looking up “Japanese scotch” and didn’t find anything. Just Japanese whiskey.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Oat butter is a thing that exists? That's wild.

    There's a silly, change-resistant part of me that feels instinctive outrage at this notion. Mostly I'm just curious. I wonder how it's made. Can you start with oat milk and make oat butter? Because it blew my mind when I accidentally whipped double cream so much that it started turning into butter.

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