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[–] 218 points 11 months ago (14 children)

How to legally discriminate against anyone above the age of 40?

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  • [–] 98 points 11 months ago (13 children)

    Or under the age of 25. Nobody is voluntarily signing up for Instagram in the modern era. Hell, even TikTok is getting past its prime.

    They might as well be demanding my Spotify Playlist.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Or under the age of 25. Nobody is voluntarily signing up for Instagram in the modern era.

    Ok this will make me sound 8,000 years old, but what social network are the kids these days using? TikTok exists, but that isn't really a personal blogging site like Facebook, Myspace, Instagram, etc. What is the equivalent for Facebook for present day high school and college students? Is everyone just on discord?

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago* (3 children)

    Nobody does personal blogging. Well, except a few specific primates doing so on Xitter. And I've also seen some people with at least half a brain getting a domain and writing blogs there in hopes someone clicks on their link.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You're reading blog to literally. Think how people traditionally use Facebook/Myspace, posting regular updates, photos from their life, etc, intended primarily for friends and family to see. What's the equivalent of that for kids today?

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  • I mean, outside of posting a few pics of college events, I don't think most of my friends post pictures to Instagram. Hell, some of them like me don't even have Instagram/major social media anymore.

    Before I left Insta, I didn't even bother to follow friends/irl people I know because I'd rather talk to them in person that shit's dumb, I really only looked at memes, silly reels/vids, and fanart of stuff. Like 90% of Gen Z is only on social media for content and lols, not to update each other on their lives

    I talk to my friends in person. We share pictures of shit we do in life to each other in group chats, but 95% of what we do was done as a group anyway. We don't really feel the need to let randos/online friends know every thing we're doing all the time.

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  • [–] 88 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    "Our application statistics show everybody has IG and TikTok accounts."

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  • [–] 33 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I don't have either one of these. Jesus.

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  • [–] 87 points 11 months ago

    Data harvesting disguised as a job application

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  • [–] 71 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    And it's required. I genuinely have neither. Am I not welcome to apply?

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  • [–] 28 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    You're on an fbi list for not having one and another list for having neither

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  • [–] 113 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

    Anyone asking for your full address at the job application stage isn't usually legit either. Just don't. You can give that to a BG check company after an offer is made and accepted.

    Source - am HR

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  • [–] 47 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    where I live, there is a street near mine that is locally famous for being a trouble making poor area.

    Felony Flats is one of the nicer nicknames that neighborhood has. The street I live on is also famous, but it is famous for being the road with the old historical houses and generally upper class atmosphere, the popular walkway/trail runs alongside it.

    Everything being equal and it came down to splitting hairs, if someone was to see the street names and addresses and knows the area, they would absolutely give me an opportunity vs my neighbor of just a few blocks away.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    What?

    It seems pretty resonable for my employer to know where I live...

    Here in Sweden, they get all of that info via our personal number which we submit to them when accepting the possition

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    It's anecdotal, but back when I was on Reddit, I saw someone say that a prospective employer actually required your full credentials so that they could check your private information as well.

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  • [–] 37 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    That not only sounds illegal and shady, it would be the dumbest thing you could do.

    Now somebody else has your account, uploads some Epstein material for shits and giggles and you can go to jail

    That is an immediate "Nope the fuck out of there, you do NOT want to work in het place"

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  • [+] 12 points 11 months ago (14 children)
  • [–] 8 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    That makes sense, because any government agencies that actually have a need for intimate knowledge of your social media footprint don't actually need your password to harvest ALL the data that network has on you public and private.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I mean maybe if they have an investigation and they want to use that information as evidence sure that would be illegal to use but for background checks any of that information is fair game if they are able to get it. Like if your terms of service specifically say they wont give any information out for any reason, maybe you can sue them if you can prove they got the information with your name attached directly instead of it being sold after being anonymized in aggregate then another company/data broker aggregating other data on you to infer who's data belongs to who with device footprints then selling that to the government as a service which i mean good luck. But most likely the terms you sign say they will hand over data for criminal investigations or matters of national security to government entities which they can state background checks for high level clearance positions is a matter of national security.

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  • [+] 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago (1 child)

    No country is publicizing what checks they do for a high level security clearance check unless they want to give bad actors and easy way to beat their checks. What country is this and whats the exact law you are referencing? If you can provide me direct evidence for that I'll eat my words but I think you are misunderstanding something if im honest.

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  • [–] 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    There's no need to involve the courts when the social media networks are complicit. It's not as if "how" they obtained the data will ever be tested in court, they only need the data for their own internal investigations. Courts and spy agencies don't have anything to do with it.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    My boss worked at IBM before his current role. He said a former colleague of his listed him as a reference for his security clearance and he "got to meet with some men in suits with no sense of humor" as part of it.

    Honestly I'll probably never go for any jobs that require a security clearance because honestly that's just a level of stress that I don't need

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  • [–] 40 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    I don't even have a TikTok account, lol.

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  • [–] 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    You shouldn't have an Instagram account, either. Meta is more evil than Google.

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  • [–] 17 points 11 months ago*

    A decade ago I would've agreed. Now I'm not too sure there's enough difference to be significant.

    I mean the second part of your comment. Obviously I agree with not having an IG lol

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  • [–] 38 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I feel like any company that seriously wants an employee doesn't want an answer to either question.

    I do not have a TikTok account because I'm not 6 years old, and do not care about what the current trend is.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago

    The weird part is why they would want to take on the legal exposure. There's far too much opportunity to complain about discrimination due to membership in various classes.

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  • [–] 36 points 11 months ago (12 children)

    Maybe it's an intelligence test: if you supply them, you're too dumb for the job.

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  • [–] 15 points 11 months ago (11 children)

    The red star indicates a required field.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    I used to use fuckoff@aol.com or fuckyou@aol.com whenever some page forced an email address for access. Sadly, those don't seem to work anymore, so I've transitioned to getfucked@hotmail.com or if I'm feeling spicy I just feed them whatever email address I can find listed on their own site.

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  • [–] 1 point 11 months ago

    I usually just do "marketing@sitename" for whatever site it is. Let marketing sort out their own spam. Sometimes I'll just do "postmaster@sitename" or "admin@sitename" but marketing is usually my go to.

    Many forms simply do the most basic regular expression possible of looking for alphanumberic characters with an @ sign before a period somewhere in the mix, so you can enter entirely nonexistent domains, but some are a little more in-depth

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  • [–] 11 points 11 months ago

    So?

    They can require these things all they want, the correct reply is N/A or / - meaning "I don't have an Instagram or a Tiktok account" (and if you do have accounts, it's not a crime to pretend you don't).

    And that should be the correct reply for a decent employer to rate the candidate above those who stupidly provide the information.

    Conversely, if the employer thinks not having social media accounts is a minus, it's probably not an employer you want to work with anyway.

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  • [–] 91 points 11 months ago* (7 children)

    This is probably rage bait TBH.

    since this is required..I'm sure the position involves some type of social media presence on insta and tiktok

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  • [–] 57 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I’ve had first-hand accounts of in-person interviewers turning their laptops to the interviewee and asking them to log in to their social media accounts.

    I’ve also had first person accounts of interviewees laughing and leaving immediately.

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  • [–] 31 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    "Required" doesn't mean you have to provide account credentials. It just means you have a provide a string of characters to complete the form. None or / are strings of character.

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago

    I don't have a tiktok and I think I deleted my Instagram because I never use it and they were sending me email. I'm betting those aren't the only two services they ask about. You could enter None for each but seems like if they're asking for these, they're going to take a lack of answers as a strike against you and probably reject the application.

    So best to reject the job listing first

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  • [–] 29 points 11 months ago

    Looking forward to the day I'm unemployable for not having those accounts instead of just for being really easy to find out I'm a communist

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  • this could only come close to making sense for a social media manager.

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  • [–] 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Report them, the only solution.

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