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[+] 42 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Looks like a wild crowd, no security gates, no screening.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    I would hate being a teen or young adult right now.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Yeah this is one of the reasons I never bother with any events involving crowds anymore. That or covid. Just not worth it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    kinda funny you can block their "ad blocker not allowed" banner with ublock

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Updated: toxicology reports have all come back negative for anything.

    I don't have a quality source because I don't know how to search for French stories but there was some English coverage on a podcast.

    If anyone has a quality report showing the toxicology results or the outcomes or updates on any of the arrests I'd love to see them.

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  • [–] 184 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    Tangentially, I was chatting with the owner of my local pub in Boston recently, and apparently it’s become something of a game (?!?!?!?!?) to try to slip people mickeys around here. As in, just see if you can sneak it into the drink, with no real intent of abuse or rape or whatever - just to see if you can do it.

    I fucking hate humans sometimes.

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  • [–] 131 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is that what they say once they get caught, or do they tell that story just in case they get caught in the future?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Nah, plenty of SA happening in Boston bars, and has been for like 10 years now in this recent “wave” where incidents have been increasing.

    Motherfuckers just never knew how to have a good time.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Fuck, this was happening when my younger sister was going to bars. It wasn't a thing I was aware of when I was younger. But I remember my sister saying 15 years ago that people were slipping drugs into drinks for this same reason. It was just to fuck with people

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Tangentially, I was chatting with the owner of my local pub in Boston recently, and apparently it’s become something of a game (?!?!?!?!?) to try to slip people mickeys around here.

    In some time periods in some places in the world, getting a hand cut off was punishment for theft. While that is a bit extreme, maybe assholes convicted of this should lose the final knuckle of their pinky finger as punishment for drugging people at bars.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    It should be something easy to see. Part of the advantage of cutting off someone's hand isn't just the punishment, it's a marker that a person is a thief that they can't get rid of. Ideally it'd be something obvious and easy to see, that's also uncommon enough naturally that you know what happened.

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  • [+] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean i could see this actually being a good stunt to raise awareness about it. Like use something fake and safe like a time release tablet that makes the drink fizz up suddenly 30 seconds later, or causes the whole thing to turn colour rapidly or something. But i doubt thats whats happening. Might make for a funny party theme with a close group of friends who are all in on it and targeting each other though.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    People are giving out free drugs to anyone? Oh no! Kudos to this brave person for speaking out with no regard for what that might do to their own business.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Just a joke. People rarely give away drugs without expecting something in return. Even on Halloween.

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  • [+] 61 points 1 year ago* (3 children)
  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s a GREAT festival. Super fun. Every neighborhood you can just walk around and there are little stages of groups or solo musicians performing. Free and just kind of everywhere. Good vibes. Very pedestrian friendly.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I do that most evenings. Around 5 pm, I sit on my porch and play my guitar, watching the pond across from my house, and listening to the birds sing.

    Sitting in a rocker on a front porch, playing guitar on a warm summer evening, is one of Life's greatest, and most perfect, pleasures.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    We also have those Christian holidays in France, and fête de la musique is just one evening, not a holiday. But it is on the longest daylight day of the year, so that's nice.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    People have different definitions of major incidents apparently...

    "including a 17-year-old who was hospitalized after being found sitting on the street with stab wounds to the lower abdomen."

    "The prefect of the Paris police, Laurent Nunez, said that "no major incident has been reported.""

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I believe (and hope) that it's just ambiguously written, the first part is discussing incidents throughout the country while the prefect was obviously just talking about Paris.

    A lot of oddly worded bits in that article.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago

    Jfc what the fuck

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    Oh cool. We're doing another needle panic

    Britian went through this just three years earlier.

    Their experiences were shared on social media, along with photographs of apparent puncture wounds. Groups were formed to warn of the dangers of needle spiking, politicians called for investigations, and by February 2022, over 1,300 reports of needle spiking had been made to police over the previous 6 months (Wynn-Davies, 2022).

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    Many victims claimed they only had a few drinks and were not drunk. However, an Australian study of suspected incidents of drink spiking found that self-reports of alcohol consumption are often unreliable. One 17-year-old girl was taken to hospital after having only one glass of vodka. However, on further questioning, she ‘remembered’ having beer and whisky. The study also analyzed the blood and urine of patients who presented at hospital emergency departments. Of 97 patients, none had traces of a sedative in their systems (Quigley et al., 2009).

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Could someone please shoot whoever wrote the headline?

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    The people planning this and walking around doing the pricking...

    There's a classic death metal song by Cannibal Corpse called "Hammer Smashed Face".

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    And that 145 is just those who noticed. I regularly have to self administer injections and they're often nearly painless once you're used to doing it, especially with small gauge needles.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (27 children)

    This is a panic that has come and gone multiple times even just during my lifetime. I remember the first time I heard about it was visitors to neighboring Tijuana with HIV infected blood on the 80s. Never once has it actually been confirmed to have happened.

    These are 145 self reports. Nothing confirmed. No video evidence.

    Plenty of resources available for this panic.

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  • [+] 24 points 1 year ago* (1 child)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Confirming that arrests have been made.

    Very easy for police to grab random people out of a music festival and throw them in jail.

    These social panic stories, in which unnamed sources make nonfalsifiable claims that result in some number of uninvestigated allegations and a series of possibly unrelated arrests stinks of Satanic Panic or Razorblades In the Halloween Candy or Haitian Immigrants are Eating Our Dogs, or any number of other news stories built on gossip.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Of course the 145 police reports don't count. This is 145 women were talking about.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Anyone can file a police report. And if they believe they were a victim then they are more likely to do that.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So they just imagined it, is that what you are saying?

    And this info is based upon what exactly?

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  • [+] 3 points 1 year ago (16 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    I'm saying that in the past every incidence or this has been alleged turned out to be mass panic. And at today's age of constant video surveillance there would be evidence, not just reports. So either this is the very first case in the world where this is actually true and we will find that out through the evidence or we're going to find out that it's not true and then it matches all the previous events. But police reports do not make something real.

    I'm asking people to look at the evidence.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    145 women speaking up is evidence of this happening

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    145 people that think something happened isn't evidence. Every case in the past had lots of people absolutely convinced it happened.

    So let's take this to the next step. There is video surveillance because every venue does these days. They pull the video. They watch the video. They follow the movements of every person. They see who bumped into who. If the video shows one or more people ranging too far to too many people and getting close when there is plenty of space and shows them dumping the evidence then we have actual proof that backs up the claims. Toxicology tests were performed. We find that there is something in the blood that shouldn't be there.

    You and each of the others here that are absolutely convinced that this time is the one time in history that this actually happened get vindicated.

    But what if the video doesn't show it? What if the toxicology is completely normal? Are you going to regret being so absolutely sure? Are you going to come back here and say "okay, I was wrong."

    I'm asking that you wait until the evidence is evaluated to make a decision. Reports aren't proof. Evidence is proof. And given the history of this type of claim a little proof before judgment is absolutely warranted.

    This also happened in France in 2022. People were detained, preliminary charges filed. And then the cases vanished. Not great reports of convictions. No "there is nothing to worry about, the criminals have he brought to justice."

    In this current case they have arrested maybe a dozen. If they are guilty then throw the book at them. But the guilty should come only after the evidence has been evaluated. And a report is not evidence. That's suspicion.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    This is a good response. And I did read the wiki you shared. In regards to video evidence, this festival had a lot of non-venue performances, I just don't know where the people were when they said they'd been poked. Also, it's easier to prove this than disprove it. For example if the tox report is negative then maybe theres something that wasn't texted for, or maybe the point is fear. People could be going around with pins rather than syringes. Of course no evidence means no conviction, and some people doubting what they thought they experienced. For me 145 people claiming something happened is evidence that something happened. (Ranging from 145 hallucinating or colluding all the way to 145 being targeted by a nefarious needle gang.)

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  • [+] -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So guilty until proven innocent? Just lock up random people based on vague memories when drunk?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Last time I heard about this it was all over Facebook and shit.

    Then the government, police and drs came out and said there was no evidence and when you think about it it doesn't make any sense.

    Honestly how many women have you seen smash way way too many drinks and claim they got spiked. No you weigh fuck all, you were smashing drinks, thats why you can't stand. We've all drank too much.

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  • [+] -12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)
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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    I’m sorry, how does this apply to trans people at all?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    When your takeaway from every bad thing that happens is "can i blame exclusively men?" You are already treading very close to that bigoted rhetoric.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I get that it's a frustrating accusation, but as a man I recognise it as generally true, even if I don't resonate with it. Women rarely commit mass shootings, rapes, stabbings, forced drugging, muggings. The people causing trouble in my neighbourhood are exclusive male teenagers and the only genuine threat to me ever is by other men. And no, it's of course not an inherent feature in male genetics, nor is it anything close to "all men", but it's a cultural issue based on how we're raised and it should be fair game to discuss it - although with a better tone than what's normally applied.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)
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    cry about it

    Yeah that's usually what terfs say when you call them out.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    You’re just trying to make people think badly about trans people. I don’t believe you’re being genuine.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Please explain to me how pointing out the perps are men does anything besides fuel bigotry.

    What is a policy we would then enact that would effect exclusively men that magically fixes the issue, which would justify the bigotry?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What are you even on about? Policy? Just raise boys better and put an end to red pill terrorism.

    You love men. I get it. Go hold a sign that says, “save men!”

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You are incapable of understanding your own bigotry because you have normalized it.

    There's no way to raise men in a way that sheilds them from the social pressures of toxic masculinity.

    Blaming individuals or an entire gender for systemic issues will always be a malicious and fruitless waste of time and energy.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago

    This comment is what a red pill, maga-loving troglodyte who hates progress and equality would say. This comment sounds like somebody who doesn’t know what terf’s are and would definitely use the term out of context while masquerading online as somebody with an ounce of intelligence.

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