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Mounting economic hardship and growing public discontent could push Russia toward internal conflict, a senior Kremlin official has warned.

The stark message comes as inflation, war fatigue, and social divisions deepen across the country.

Alexander Kharichev, head of the Presidential Directorate for Monitoring and Analysing Social Processes, issued the warning in a state-run journal.

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Military over social spending

Rising prices have hit ordinary Russians hard, with food costs climbing well above the national inflation rate. Businesses are struggling to stay afloat, and layoffs and bankruptcies loom large.

Despite the pressure, the Kremlin continues to prioritize military spending over social welfare.

At the same time, Russia’s workforce has been decimated by more than a million war casualties, mostly men of working age, worsening the long-term demographic decline and ageing population.

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Kharichev warned of “fragmentation of society” and the “loss of Russia’s ability to fight for its survival.”

His analysis cited the growing erosion of public trust in government and widening rifts within Russian society.

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[–] 75 points 1 year ago (15 children)

What's incredible is this wouldn't be the first time Russia has spent such an insane amount of money on a futile war they absolutely collapse.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Collapsing is a proud Russian tradition. And now the US gets to do it with them!

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    We couldn't afford the Vietnam war. The Nixon Shock sealed our fate - it's just been very gradual.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Iraq cost ~3x what Vietnam did. But I'm not really disagreeing.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (9 children)

    As soon as it became clear how much russia botched the invasion initially, I've thought of vovka as Tsar Nicolas III

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Be careful what you wish for. We might end up with Soviet Union Two: Electric Boogaloo.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Maybe this time they won't dismantle the worker's councils after the revolution, that'd be nice.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    As in, an improvement on the original (fewer famines) model? Or an upgraded, more effective (bigger famines) model?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    2040: A group of Neo-Bolsheviks seize control of Russia, fully intending to literally make fully automated luxury gay space communism real. Imagine a publicly owned vast automated supply chain that produced goods at scale with little human effort. Go full tilt on automation of all kinds, but direct all profits to the general welfare. Maybe do away with money entirely. It would start with a genuine utopian dream.

    2060: Neo-Stalin rules over what was once Russia. Its human population, long since more trouble than they were worth, were largely done away with. The population of the country is approximately 2300. Yet the combined industrial output of the automated leviathan that sprawls over what was once the Moscow-St. Petersburg corridor now exceeds that of the PRC. And a frightening fraction of that is directed towards military purposes. Their population reduced to a handful of oligarchs still controls the first, second, or third most powerful military in the world, depending on form of measure.

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  • [–] 112 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Incoming headline:

    senior Kremlin official dies of suicide after shooting himself in the back of the head 3 times after falling out of 10th floor window.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's especially impressive that he mananged to do that with his hands tied behind his back. Some people are just determined I guess.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Cause of death: ricin poisoning

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    So it’s a race, is it? USA! USA! USA!

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Wouldn't it be great if all the empires collapsed and everybody just like, learned their lesson?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I’ll believe it even I see it, just like any Trump news.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago*

    Seriously. Russia was supposed to collapse in 2023. Then in 2024. Then in 2025. Putin was sick and he was about to die. Endless supply of hopium. At this point I consider it all fake news until proven otherwise. Also there was the recent Money & Macro economic analysis that contradicts a lot of the hopium theories. And there's the whole contradiction between impending economic collapse and lauching war on NATO countries. The two are mutually exclusive.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    According to Vlad Vexler, in Russian political/bureaucratic culture this is not to be understood as real analysis and more to be understood as functionaries pitching themselves as useful to Putin: https://youtu.be/ZJryUKULZ_E

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago*

    Why are you, Mr Kharichev, so interested in windows?

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well, that took long enough. The Russian people should be in revolt.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    if russia is going to civil war, thier troll farms will be silent on social media for a while, thats a good thing.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sometimes I reminisce how real the internet was before the propaganda machines took over :(

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    i remember reddit was pretty quiet and qaint like lemmy before 2016. then there was massive campaign underway to put propaganda on reddit, and then the first bans i recieved was during '18 in politics section, it just snowballed from there.

    oh and you notice when reddit does thier usual annual purges the site becomes super quiet, or when PUTIN needed to turn his troll farms internally it had the same effect.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    Yeah the pattern basically repeats on every information technology:

    1. It's new and kinda buggy / empty.
    2. It's peak now - full of organic content and culture.
    3. Commercial entities and astroturfers start to squeeze value.
    4. Government entities catch on and start propaganda campaigns and prosecution.
    5. Owners start to get overwhelmed and start to extract profit i.e. enshitification

    Except these days it's so accelerated that we barely get to enjoy step 2 :(

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    How the fuck a comment like this can have this many upvotes?

    if russia is going to civil war, thier troll farms will be silent on social media for a while, thats a good thing. possibly thousands of people would be killed, thousands more would have their lives upended, there would be even more thousands of refugees flooding in all of Russia's neighbors.

    But you would maybe have your "peace" on social media. Yeah, good for you.

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
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    There is substantial belief in the western world that Russia is using these “troll farms” to destabilize foreign governments.

    Yes, I'm aware. And that's entirely on their government. Putin and others below him should be blamed, not he entirety of the people who lives in Russia.

    The fact that a period of strife in Russia is what caused would be unfortunate

    When talking about a possible civil war, "unfortunate" is such a weak euphemism. People would die, lots of them.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ah for fuck sake can you not cpnsider the implications of what is being said rather than jumping right on to defending a dangerous, unpredictable nuclear power.

    Frankly I hope they do fall to a civil war, even if loads die at least they will be fighting amongst themselves and not kidnapping Ukrainian kids to groom or send to the frontline.

    Its either they are making the world worse or russia worse, I know which one I prefer.

    Think of the children...

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  • [+] -6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is pure, undistilled xenophobia. By that logic anyone living under an undesirable government should just die. Well, guess what? A sizable part of the world is under bad government in one way or another. Should I be whishing the USA blows up too? Maybe we should all collectively just shoot ourselves in the head then?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    It's crazy how much it start to seem like Russia and the US are like 2 sides to the same coin. It's almost like a small minority of persons with highly lethal weapons give them some sort of complex that leads them to believe they can make decision for everybody else at the cost of other people's livelihood.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    That guy better stay on the ground floor for the rest of his life. Anything higher up than oh say about 30 feet gets so darn slippery this time of year in Moscow that you just wouldn't believe it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    And stay away from tea too. And silenced handguns aimed at the back of the head. Just so many accidental ways people are dying nowadays

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I recently heard Vladimir Kara-Murza, a Russian political dissident, give a talk. He survived two attempted poisonings among other things. He described how the current method of poisoning is for Putin’s henchmen to sneak into your home and put polonium into your underwear. So this guy might want to consider walking around naked for a while as well…

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I think Mr. Kharichev is about to get window'd.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Every once in a while a story like this gets published and it occupies the news cycle for a little bit. They always end up being nothing.

    A few years ago Putin was reportedly on his death bed. Prior to that he had aggressive Parkinson's and would resign in 6 months.

    I suspect this is just a smoke screen for something else.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Indeed. If this happened it seems unwise - even if it was part of an essay suggesting doubling down on Putinist "family values". I don't recognise the source, though, and not much else comes up that I trust more on a search.

    Edit: I found this. Maybe it's time to get my Russian practice in. The title does indeed read as described, at least.

    Update, it was a journal article/paper, I don't have access, and I didn't find a copy anywhere.

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    [–] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Putin and Trump, and their respective countries, have lots in common. It's almost like they're marching in lock-step.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yes. But trump isn't sending thousands of soldiers every week to die in the meat grinder... yet.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    That would be pretty neat, which means it won't happen.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Yes please. Something good for once. That country is the source of so much suffering in the world.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Russia is a colonial abomination that shoud not exist, so that's pretty decent news.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Considering Putin used a colonial war in Chechnya to consolidate power, it very much is a colonial state.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    Sources: Reuters, BBC, AP, Express

    This article is made and published by Jens Asbjørn Bogen, who may have used AI in the preparation

    haha okayyyyy

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    In Russia this is called “Tuesday”.

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    "Russia risks new Lenin"

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Yay! 😃🍿

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Anyone hoping this means they stop funding scammers to trick Americans into voting against their best interests, too bad, that's one of their best revenue streams.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've been hearing this for 2 years. How's Putin's cancer doing, by the way?

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  • I mean those are probably better ways to incite a civil war than by provoking protestors.

    But what do I know

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Good. Die faster, Russia.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I hate the idea, because short term everybody loses, lose loved ones, lose their own lives, but one does wonder if a civil war would finally be able to break Russia into smaller normal independent democratic states that can take care of themselves

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Just said that in front of world+dog? 🫨 Even saying that on air would be shocking, but in an official government journal?! Meanwhile, in America, no one in government would have the balls to say such a thing and would be immediately removed if they did so.

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