YouTube expands age verification to more users. Several users are reporting on Reddit seeing new restrictions being applied to their accounts.

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[–] 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the internet fucking sucks so bad now oh my GOD

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The thing about sites like these is that they are augmented by other sites like YouTube or Imgur.

    If you live in the UK now, you won't be able to open Imgur links, catbox rarely works and YouTube requires age verification.

    There are of course alternatives, but they're barely used.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    A small bastion where ppl still make sense, lemmy is why I still have faith in ppl on the internet, what we get without controversy fueled algorithims is people just actually discussing sht and being helpful

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    [–] 45 points 1 year ago* (18 children)

    One more reason to use an alt front-end, and clear/disable your watch/view history and not log into YT directly anymore, at least while you still can.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I don't think you bypass the age checks with the alternative front-ends? I've been using FreeTube for some time, and whenever there has been an 18+ video, I would not be able to view it as I would not pass the age check. If this is a more general check that is being rolled out, I guess there will be less and less videos that will work through these.

    I think I need to start hoarding video tutorial series and self-host them. Would something like TubeArchivist be my best bet for that?

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sounds good in theory but there just isn’t anything that can hold up to the same traffic. Don’t get me wrong, I’d migrate away from YouTube in a heartbeat, but there really isn’t much that compares when it comes to the creators, and the music. All of which are “free” and easy to access with an ad blocker.

    And I’m including piracy.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Have you seen most YouTube videos? Nothing can hold up to the garbage content being pumped in by scammers and low effort "influencers" and shit like Mr beast or the Pauls or whatever is popular these days. We don't need YouTube level capacity for good content.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    But that bad content would flow over to the new platform. Just like bots and bad actors exist here on Lemmy, and wether or not you want them to be here they are.

    You can’t build for “the good content” and assume the bad won’t follow. And honestly, once you hit a certain scale it is literally impossible to weed out the bad.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    What alt front ends are there? How would you bypass the age check? Back in the day I didn't have an account and you could get around it using third party sites but those don't work anymore as far as I know.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (7 children)

    Invidious mainly, and that doesn't use any YT accounts, it's the equivalent of watching YT logged out.

    Also, Grayjay lets you log in through it but that probably doesn't bypass the age check if you're KYC'd.

    If you're an active creator yourself though or even if you only have a few vids you made years ago that are still up, I'd set up PeerTube, Odysee, or both, and post those there while you still can, though.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Presumably once YouTube finishes rolling out age verification, all these age restricted videos will require logging in to view them and anonymous front end apps will be locked out.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Age-gated vids have been login-walled for a while now, non-age-gated stuff is still viewable while logged out and through alt front-ends, for now.

    I won't put it past Google to fully login-wall YT at some point in the future though, or even worse, put DRM on it so that it's only watchable through Chrome on Android, or Chrome or Edge on Windows, and non-Android and non-Windows OSes, and non-Chrome/Edge browsers are blocked, as well as alt front-ends and downloaders, and even mirroring to competing platforms.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Not unless they're complete boneheads (which, admittedly, is not impossible). If they do that, they effectively lose embed-video-in-external-sites functionality, and that might just be enough for unpaid content creators to dump the platform en masse and cause their effective monopoly to crumble. The content creators who are actually making decent money may never leave entirely, but if another viable platform comes into existence, I bet most of them would mirror to it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Yeah they still rarely work but I'd rather deal with intermittent inoperability than log into a YT account and use their absolute atrocity of a UI.

    Also worth noting that paying for premium does not give you any more control over this waterfall of forcefed garbage.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I swear to god Google I will delete my account and use a front end for every single time I see a video on your platform, so help me God.

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    I guess reVanced will remove this shit

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Can those affected by the now policy use Grayjay (https://grayjay.app/) to bypass it?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (44 children)

    I don't understand why people are so afraid to ditch YouTube

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (30 children)

    A lot of creators I watch are YouTube exclusive with their content.

    If they were on Peertube, I'd delete YouTube in a heartbeat.

    But I also understand that a lot of them make their living off ad revenue, so I don't blame them for staying.

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  • [+] -21 points 1 year ago (28 children)

    Why commit to them instead of finding alternative creators on a different platform?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    Fine. Name alternatives for what YouTube is mostly used for and I'll be the first to take your advise.

    We are talking vlogs on huge amounts of topics, product reviews and unboxings, reaction videos, how-to tutorials, gaming videos (walkthroughs, live streams, etc.), ASMR and relaxation content, educational and explainer videos for science, history and finance... and so on.

    There's simply no true alternative.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    The above.

    My circle of family, friends and others will extend the list to music videos, health care (mental health and wellness, for example), the shorts, movie trailers, even Hallmark movies.

    There is no platform other than YouTube that combines all this crazy amount of content.

    There's PeerTube with notoriously difficult onboarding for the average user and limited content, there's Loops with extremely limited content.. I really wish it were different.

    Maybe one day existing platforms will rise. Looking at you, VIMEO, Kick, DailyMotion, DTube...

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Doesn't matter. Name a single FREE alternative to YouTube with content worth watching.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Depends on the content you're wanting to watch.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    See, you can't even just name something. Because it doesn't exist.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    So you're looking for a service that spoon feeds you non-specific videos?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Do you have no opinions yourself? I don't care what's on it; what alternatives do you think exist?

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I can give you the alternative if you tell me what you want to watch?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Plenty of videos on loops, peertube, archive sites, libraries, and public domain sites

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Photography, Star trek, fountain pens

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Photography, check out pixelfed

    Star trek, check out https://www.trekbbs.com/

    Fountain pens, check out https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Forums like the fountain pen one and and the photography one you suggested are a Reddit replacement. However, sometimes you want to watch a video though. So they're not good YouTube replacements in my opinion.

    Pixelfed is great as an Instagram replacement, but again no videos.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    If you want to transfer every video to a different service, be my guest.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (10 children)

    I mean, it gives you tools to export your videos out.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Cool. You should probably get started. There's a lot of videos.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (8 children)

    I don't have any youtube videos to export. Do you want me to export yours?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    And everyone else's. People don't go elsewhere because the creators they like are on YouTube. Speaking as someone with Peertube and Nebula.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (2 children)

    Well we can start looking for creators that respect privacy and freedom of their viewers, ig

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (1 child)

    You're asking them to put their livelihood on the line for your privacy. They're gonna choose the thing that pays their bills every time.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    No, what Im saying is a service that is as centralized and pervasive as youtube should not be the ones who determine if you should be allowed to watch a video or not. They are inserting themselves between you and your content creator and assessing your entire identity. They, a for-profit, data-hoarding, facist financier, corporate advertising conglomerate will have collected the very personal details of your entire individual life, and will amass everything they have on you to declare if you are able to watch a 10 minute video.

    THAT is what we should not have. But maybe thats just me.

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