Fox News caption: BY WINNING, DEMOCRATS ARE ACTUALLY LOSING

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[–] 212 points 1 year ago (44 children)

Holy crap, it's real. Link. I thought this must be satire.

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  • [–] [S] 238 points 1 year ago (35 children)

    Her argument is that more people will move to red states as a result. I hate to break it to her, but increased population density is almost guaranteed to make states turn blue.

    So by winning, Democrats are actually losing, making red states turn blue, so Democrats are winning. Suck it, commies!

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  • [–] 94 points 1 year ago (19 children)

    Moving from blue to red again was a shock, I sure miss the quality of public services. This place is falling apart unless you live in the richest suburbs.

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  • [–] 78 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Moving from red to blue was a shock. Did you know blue states will actually attempt to improve citizens lives?

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I live in Bumfuck, WV. Quite possibly the stupidest state in the Union. Our elected representation perfectly encapsulates the constituents of the state. Moronic, incompetent, and completely unwilling to incite change for a more prosperous future.

    I fucking hate it here. I can't wait to be able to move.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I moved from blue to purple, then red, then redder. It's been an adventure.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I went Michigan, Illinois, Texas, Minnesota, Texas. That last jump was a hard transition. Frankly, I hope we get invaded by Mexico because there's no other way to fix the state government at this point.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    But like ... Why would you do that?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Chasing a lower cost of living

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    And how has that worked out for you?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Its a viable strategy.

    Get a career going in a blue state when you've got supports to help you make it.

    Make a good amount of money, or get a decent wage/salary.

    Then transfer that all to a lower cost area to rest on your laurels and skip out on having to pay into support for the next generation.

    Its a perfectly conservative thing to do, pulling up the ladder after you've succeeded with it.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Preach brother. Had no idea, just wanted to move. Now I'm counting the days to get out of here. More money, better public services, cleaner, and COL isn't much of an argument at this point. Although it wasn't a big deal anyway. Rent caught up quick and the only perk is a front yard and backyard I don't use except to walk the dog. Aside from that, it's clear how far a few more dollars for state taxes go. Good learning experience. Loved the people, but no thanks to climate. Political and physical.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Isn’t it conservatives that are leaving blue states? I know urban centers tend to be more left leaning but I don’t think those people will quickly change their views just from moving. Maybe their kids?

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Independent of left and right, a higher population density naturally results in increased support for public services, which the right has decided to firmly establish themselves as being against.

    Plus there's the added benefit of prejudice and racism decreasing in a more diverse community. (at least on a personal level)

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  • [–] [S] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    She doesn't specifically mention conservatives moving. Her argument seemed to be that everyone will flee the socialist hellscape.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    My dad moved from California to Columbia, Missouri about a decade ago. No complaints other than the weather, but his district is posh and next to the campus.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Columbia has one huge university and two good sized colleges. As far as Missouri goes, it's probably the most liberal city. Take a drive for 10 minutes in any direction though and the atmosphere definitely changes.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You get a lot of retirees who want to move South. Maybe they have family there, or maybe they just want nicer weather.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A number of states specifically structured their tax policies to be super friendly to retirees, so some ran the numbers and said "oh I can afford to sell my expensive house up north, move south and buy a better/similar house for less and pay less taxes as I withdraw my retirement money? Also I don't have to deal with winters anymore?! Sign me up!" And since they don't have to worry about job availability they can live basically anywhere that has the amenities they want and fits their budget, thus the American south became a gigantic retirement community

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    arnt they still concentrated in BLUE counties in the south though. i had anext door neighbor that retired, financially they saw texas as a retirement state, so they moved there, Houston i believe, plus they are also white, and pretty much getting annoyed with non-whites(they were pretty subtle about and not express it openly)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    See the one thing to remember is that places can be majority one party, but if consistently 60% of voter vote for one party that still means that 40% of the voters vote differently. There's tons of moderates and Republicans in very blue areas and there's tons of moderates and Democrats in red areas. Some of these retirees might be moderates or hold different opinions from where they live. They may even simply be folks who aren't plugged into politics and don't really know or care that much what their neighbors' political opinions are.

    I'm overgeneralizing here, but retirees don't work (especially not highly physical jobs that badly require workers rights reform. They might do some independent contracting for the last place they worked as a side gig though!) they don't go to school, they don't have much debt with their home, vehicles and student loans all paid off long ago, they don't rent, they aren't first time home buyers, they aren't raising a family and struggling with the cost of daycare. Retirees are basically just trust fund babies except they spent the last 40 years building their own trust fund. And as people are living longer healthier lives, we're getting retirees who have been retired for 20+ years and are even further disconnected from the needs of those who are still working and raising families

    My point is, depending on the person, politics probably isn't a big deal to them when they select a low cost of living area to retire to. And in the south there's tons of 55+ communities and communities intended for retirees that are conveniently built just outside of metro areas to reduce tax burden (because taxes are generally the biggest cost for retirees!)

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    also I'm pretty sure smaller stuff that's not for the us president is not counted just purely per vote but more on winning districts so just having more conservatives collected in one area would only mean that a presumably an already very red area gets redder without doing anything more

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Have socialist policies lifted people out of poverty in Venezuela?

    Perhaps if the US lifted its sanctions on Venezuela, maybe they'd find out.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    Kind of the constant history of socialism. It's almost the same as the arguement against being LGBT.

    See being LGBT is bad, I can prove it, look at the suicide rates of LGBT people?

    Isn't that because you are bullying them?

    Yeah, but I wouldn't bully them if they were straight, so that proves being LGBT is bad for your health!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    They really can't stop talking about Venezuela, it's concerning.

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  • [–] [S] 96 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Yes yes, by sweeping elections across the country, you've fallen right into my trap...

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Pay no attention to Laura Ingram, we purposely trained her wrong... as a joke

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I hope you libs are ready to get OWNED when we shine a spotlight on this young, energetic, ridiculously charismatic mayor proposing new solutions to the problems a big majority of americans are facing!

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    Leftists and liberals: looks at world - this needs to be better, let's improve it.

    Right and conservatives: looks at leftists and liberals - I don't care how or why, but we need to make everybody suffer.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Not everybody, just the people who are already suffering

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    She's full of crap with her argument about people leaving blue states, but I do have a lingering fear people will burn out before 2026 when it matters a little more. Wins better give us momentum and not complacency.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Experience does not fill me with hope

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  • [–] [S] 52 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I still can't believe people lived through the first Trump presidency and decided they wanted another.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    People are very stupid like that. There's almost always a midterms pendulum swing in the opposite direction of the ruling party in this country. It's damn near impossible for people's opinions to more permanently shift on political parties. I think the last time this happened was with the passing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. That pretty much cemented racist's support for the Republican party in this country ever since.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you live in America, you know that guy who says shit like, "I'm not racist, but...", then the guy who thinks women are inferior, then the guy who is all out racist, then the Christian guy who's told America's Religion is at stake, then the guy who owns stocks and sees Republicans as his route to eternal wealth, and then ratio that into each American's collective of acquaintances. Then of all the other people left, only 40% of them bother to vote. Harris could have won probably if more registered Dems bothered to vote. But we all look at the bigots and groupthink takes over, as no way those assholes could win anything.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    War is peace
    Freedom is slavery
    Ignorance is strength

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    We have always been at war with Eastasia

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago

    that is .. quite a headline. impressive.

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago

    Fuck it I can take the L 🤷🏻‍♂️

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    He’s saying “good, let them enact their terrible policies and then everyone will see how bad they are, dooming them forever.”

    This is a ballsy thing to say while Trump’s policies are currently lighting our future on fire, and when the Democratic platform consistently has more popular policies in it.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I’m not sure I follow. You mean if they win next year? Because right now they should only be thinking “he won by a landslide… maybe what he’s doing can work.”

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Trump didn't win the popular vote by a landslide. It was close.

    • Trump - 77,303,568 - 49.81%
    • Harris - 75,019,230 - 48.34%
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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Ohhh sorry when you said “we’re not him” I thought you meant Zohran Mamdani, not Trump. The dem leadership are not thrilled about Mamdani and I though that was what you were referring to.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    someone get the narcan, they're overdosing on copium over here!

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago*

    They're losing because they're going to get tired of all the winning. Which is why the Republicans losing is actually winning. They're no longer tired of winning. So they can win again.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Don't believe your eyes, don't listen to your ears, believe the party above all else

    All hail the Cheeto! All hail the Cheeto! All hail the Cheeto!

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