I'm just surprised that they didn't call the app Minority Report - I mean it's right there and so accurate

40% of the population.

Dangerous? It’s outrageously illegal. Unless we’re just gonna say all documentation is null and void. Which. We’re not.

everyone is in denial that everything will "return to normal" when trump dies, and hoping that happens within this 2nd term. mind you "normal" in that sense is unsustainable ratfucking of any and all public funds to the detriment of everything else

...when he dies and nothing else changes...

that's when shit goes from bad to worse real fucking quick

Rules for thee, yada yada

Archive link since that's behind a paywall: https://archive.ph/C7jJu

There's no due process anymore. Why do you believe you'll ever be granted a lawyer, let alone a phone call, or a court date? They're just out there assaulting and disappearing people.

You also get a court-appointed lawyer if you don’t have other options and staying silent in jail for a week is preferable to admitting whatever they want you to admit to secure a conviction.

Don’t Talk Without A Lawyer (Working for You) Present.™

An app is supposed to override my goddamn birth certificate?

The issueance of said birth certificates is a power reserved to the states, and state-issued documents must be given full faith and credit. US citizenship is supposed to be secondary to someone's citizenship to the state. So, if the states have to give them credit, so too must the federal government.

I wish you well but you may be underestimating how far down we've gone. If you try to walk away or put up a fight, and you will be swarmed by cops who will take you to the ground with no concern for the injury they are doing. At the least you will be bleeding, at the worst you'll get some broken ribs or worse.

Once they're done beating on you, you will be detained, I won't say arrested, and you will be taken to an ICE facility where you will not get a phone call or access to a lawyer or medical care. After a day or two, maybe less, you will be transferred to an ICE facility a few states away, or maybe on the other side of the nation. Your friends and family will not be informed and will have no way to find you until ICE decides you've had enough and let's you go. Assuming they don't just deport you for the hell of it.

Remember, until you prove you're a citizen, you don't get due process. And of course, without due process you can't prove you are a citizen.

Bold of you to assume they don’t already have your face and that they need to be in your vicinity to scan it.

Man anonymous and whoever are just script kiddies apparently. A decade into this fuckery and - what? They downloaded ICE agent names to pass amongst themselves and giggle about?

SAD!

This is going to have so many false positives…

That's the idea.

And China doesn't have any black people, for whom facial rec is notoriously inaccurate.

Oh, yeah, false positives all over the place.

If you get ensnared by this little scheme, make the best of it. Keep track of everything that happens during your detainment, down to the slightest inconvenience, because you are going to blow that up when you get your case into a courtroom. Make these Sociopathic Oligarchs fund your (hopefully early) retirement.

Is something like that is that wrong it cannot be admissible in court.

Serious answer to non-serious question, corpos can deliver apps to phones past app stores, e.g. intune/company portal etc.

No way they could explain how to do that to these apes. Apple and Google are complicit in this, they like being able to bribe Trump. Probably just need to add their name to the list of people that can see it in the app store.

Error, couldn't reach server. Default judgment: guilty

Is it time for LOIC to make a comeback?

Double tap to declare guilty and deport. Single tap to deport

Yeah, in a way they're really just saying out loud the quiet part: that their job is to arrest people who "don't look right", quite independently of being an illegal immigrant, legal immigrant or even a citizen.

Having the "app" as an intermediary in the decision process is just a "computer says" way to isolate themselves from the responsabilities of what is in fact their choice (as the app was still configured/trained per their instructions so it's nothing but a computer agent dirctly or indirectly executing their instructions)

There are a whole lot of aliens with citizenship. Both people that have naturalized and citizens born abroad to American parents.

Hello, puny earthlings, it is I, the Alien. Surrender, or you shall suffer.

/j

I bet it just checks the colour of people's skins.

IBM: first time?

wearing face mask as the ice people are doing, also probably wear something that cant be yanked off easily.

Doesn't mean a lot online, talking to a bunch of people who don't know you from Adam. Better to start speaking like this in person with your neighbors, preferably not in range of any recording devices. A single neighbor that knows that you're willing to raise up arms in their defense is worth more than any number of online strangers that you couldn't possibly help defend

On an unrelated note, the Second Amendment is not just for conservatives

I'm interested in the Trolley Problem of a hypothetical murder of an ICE agent weighed against the hypothetical murder of a random member of the 1%.

Don't kill. Maim. Make them ugly and weak. More useful than dead.

yeeaahhhh goverment goons aren't gonna take me alive. Nobody should ever, ever go peacefully.

If you go peacefully, you are helping them. Don't go peacefully. Fight them.

You want us in jail?

If they scan your face and it says you're illegally in the country then you're getting arrested, no matter what evidence you have to the contrary.

False positives are arrested and held in custody until the legal system can get to them.

Wait, like match = definitive OK? Or no match = definitive OK? Or no match = definitive not OK? I ask because the details are quite bedeviled

I think the app tells them either way.

Dude. Its an extra excuse. Everything is an excuse. Please stop pretending there's coherent reasoning or consistent logic here. It's all pure exercise of power shit.

Boomerberg trails.