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[–] 124 points 1 year ago (3 children)

“We’re not in politics. We’re just some guys in Virginia making good whisky. But unfortunately, we’re the victims.”

Are you a business owner who does international commerce? Guess what, shit-for-brains: you better get interested in politics really fast. Your fucking president is violating treaties, threatening allies, breaking international law, and arming and publicly supporting a genocide.

For Christ’s sake, your country is actively threatening your customers. Why the ever-loving fuck would your customers sit still for that? Not everyone is American-stupid.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    You use the word stupid which is fair but more specifically there is a profound level of ignorance and disconnection from reality. So many live as if their heads are perpetually in the sand, making it hard to decipher how much of it is intentional because they don't want to answer for their government vs how much is being spanked so hard by capitalism-daddy that they don't have time to look up and see whats happening.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    I agree with you. I shouldn't resort to name calling but this kind of tone-deaf article gets to me. A lot of the 'stupidity' i am referring to is behavioural - like you say, it is actually a mixture of ignorance and apathy. The wealthy want people to be so poor that they can't pay attention to anything other than their next paycheque or so busy that they don't have time to be well-informed. In case that isn't enough, they throw literal disinformation at people through corporate mass-media.

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  • [+] [S] 50 points 1 year ago (9 children)
  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It’s also that many are deciding not to visit the United States, dealing a blow to countless resorts and travel businesses that once relied on a steady stream of Canadian visitors.

    On a normal year, roughly 70% of the daily golfers at the Bluff Point Golf Resort in Plattsburgh, New York are Canadians. Not this year.

    “It’s been a dramatic drop. It’s very rare that we see someone pull in to play golf that’s coming from Canada,” said Paul Dame, owner of Bluff Point Golf Resort, which is located just 35 minutes from downtown Montreal.

    No shit, Sherlock. Are YOU going to go to a country where there's a substantial chance you could be arrested and indefinitely detained and maybe sent to a gulag in some third country?

    “The tough thing for us is, it’s nothing we’ve done."

    If you voted for Trump, or chose not to vote at all, then it you sure as fuck deserve your share of the blame.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    “We’re not in politics. We’re just some guys in Virginia making good whisky. But unfortunately, we’re the victims.”

    Can we take a guess about the result of the election by the people in Nelson County, where the Virginia Distillery Co is based?

    🔴

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  • [–] 100 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    "Innocent bystanders" aren't a thing in this sort of case. Punishing the public so that they apply pressure to the government to get the pain to stop is the entire fucking point!

    It's the same reason why effective protests are disruptive on purpose.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    There’s a strong argument to be made FOR being political. He was like, ‘we stay out of politics’. Maybe that was your mistake, dude.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    We stay out of politics! That way we enjoy all the benefits of our governments imperialism without having to answer for any of its transgressions.

    A majority of white people have not voted for a democratic candidate since the Civil Rights Act passed in 1964. This is the largest racial demographic in the country.

    Within this group, the majority of college educated do vote Democrat however most white people in the country are not college educated.

    It was 1964 when the Democrats finally flipped on Civil Rights (previously both parties were both pro segregation). Subsequently, republican leaders—most famously Richard Nixon and his campaign advisers—adopted a deliberate “Southern Strategy”: appeal to white Southern resentment over civil‑rights gains amongst other concerns. This demographic (largely not college educated) has not swayed in their support for Republicans since then.

    Remember that the southern confederacy fought on the philosophy that their property rights were being infringed during the American civil war. That property being human lives.

    Interestingly, communism played an important role in the progress of civil rights in America.

    Soviet propagandists seized on America’s segregation, lynching history, and denial of voting rights to portray the United States as hypocritical, arguing that a nation preaching liberty while oppressing minorities could not truly embody democracy. They broadcast films, pamphlets, and radio messages that highlighted police brutality, the Jim Crow South, and the disenfranchisement of Black voters, hoping to sway independent nations in Africa, Asia, and Latin America toward communism. American officials recognized that domestic racial injustice threatened their credibility abroad; if allies saw inequality, they might reject U.S. aid or align with Moscow. Consequently, U.S. presidents from Truman to Johnson felt pressure to pass civil‑rights legislation, both to fulfill moral imperatives and to deny the Soviet Union a strategic propaganda weapon.

    I bring up college educated simply to point out there is diversity within the group and it is not a monolith (as no group is).

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago

    I'm surprised it's only a 30% drop in visitors.

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  • [–] 50 points 1 year ago*

    Mald_Crying_Manchild.jpg

    It's not even worth sourcing a stock photo. "Not political" maybe you should've paid attention, fuckwad.

    Who's "legally allowed" in nazi USA is entirely a gamble with how big a nazi the border agent you're dealing with that day is.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Nelson County VA Presidential election voting:

    2016: +5.6% Trump

    2020: +5.2% Trump

    2024: +7.5% Trump

    Have the day you voted for, you idiots.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Read the article. They do not once blame Trump or the Republicans, they're just crying victim. Now look to the journalists who didn't ask any hard hitting questions, hell, not even easy questions. "Do you blame President Trump?"

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Conservative media outlet spins for Trump. I'm absolutely shocked and amazed. 😒

    Seriously, why the hell did I have to open this godawful site to read this when OP said he was going to post the text in comments?

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  • Trump hurt these companies, not Canadians who refuse to pay for Trump's tariffs and instead support their own domestic producers.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    Have they tried saying "thank you" even once?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "innocent" people that allowed a fascist to inhabit the Whitehouse.

    Whether you voted for him, or you didn't vote, you allowed it to happen.

    Those that voted against, you're cool, come up for a beer sometime eh?

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    Just want to chime in and say that my mom and her friends were just in Canada and they said the people there totally understand that half of America is against Trump and everything he stands for and don’t blame all Americans at all, but they feel they have to punish the country for electing him nonetheless.

    Totally reasonable IMO.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I moved from NY to Canada and have only felt welcomed by everyone. I absolutely love it here and have no desire to return.

    The desire to reduce reliance on the US is very real. There's a strong movement to shop local, which I do love. Canada has better food anyways.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    I'm sorry to tell you that's not really true.

    The general attitude in Canada is that most Americans are complicit, uneducated, unprincipled, and themselves guilty.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    155 of 340 million Americans voted.

    To me, this means that 185 million people, with the exception of a small percentage, didn't care, or was fine with whatever, making them complicit.

    In addition to that, 77 million voters, voted for Trump.

    So 262 million Americans either voted for Trump or were complicit in the decision that was made by their countrymen. That's a whopping 77% of Americans either asked for this or they were completely fine with it if this was the outcome.

    So yeah. There's some Americans, about 23% that tried, at least.... The rest of the Americans are either complicit or wanted this.... And as a Canadian, that 77% is why I'm actively avoiding American made goods, and I will continue to do so, regardless of tariffs, for the next few years.... I'll probably stop around 2029 or so... We'll see how things go from there....

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    ChatGPT says the voting age population is 258m

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    That is completely true. Even the ones who don't like this are just saying "Aw drats! I guess we just have to vote harder next time!" Without actually examining why we lost in the first place or any systemic issues that led to this.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Well, if that’s the case, that’s a shame, as it simply means Canadians are having an emotional over-reaction to the situation and it’s biasing them into blaming an entire group for only part of that group’s actions.

    I suspect some Canadians see it the way you describe and others see it the way my Mom described. I’d be interested to know if there’s any correlation with political alignment.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Opinions are diversified, like anything else. It's difficult to generalize. My brother in law lives in a small town, doesn't speak English, and is a Trump supporter. But for me, I think at least half the US population voted for this. They are lacking education and as much as it's difficult to blame people for being manipulated, at some point, I can also see them as very naive and gullible. I'm not blaming all the population of the US, but there's a significant chunk of it that holds part of the blame.

    AFAIK it's also why some states were hit harder than others by the boycott, because Canadians targeted the red states first. And for the rest, you know, "collateral damage". Sorry.

    Also, you try not to have an "emotional over-reaction" when your country is threatened to be annexed or invaded. If Xi from China said a few times, just jokingly, that the US should be part of China, and that a few other Chinese politicians started to push the idea of annexing or invading the US too, I don't think most Unitedstaters would see the Chinese government, and a part of those people pushing for this, with a neutral view.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    Also, you try not to have an "emotional over-reaction" when your country is threatened to be annexed or invaded.

    I understand the response, but it’s still biased and wrong. Don’t think angry Canadians don’t have my empathy—I’d be pissed for a few days too, probably. But it’s important to not let your emotions cloud your thinking and your judgment. To the extent that angry Canadians blame the entire U.S. population for Trump, while understandable in a certain light, they’re still wrong.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Won't anyone think of the innocent shareholders! /s

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
    1. If your business can't lose at most 10% of its clientele and survive, the its not those 10% at fault.

    2. If border Nazis are stopping Canucks - they're stopping kiwis, so, probably - then Canucks don't need to come visit. This is not the fault of the visitor.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If there’s ever a CNN article you want to read, just click incognito mode. Works for the premium paid articles too.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    CNN's willful ignorance of the Trump Regime's malice is hurting innocent people.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Goes like this? “Duh, I voted for the felon child rapist. Not my fault I am just an innocent bystander.”

    Not to me your not, your complicit and I will never buy anything or have anything to do with the us as long as I live.

    Fuck off.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    They are not innocent.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I guess it is just too hard to blame this administration for royally fucking up by threatening our closest ally (both literally and figuratively) and then imposing a bunch of tariffs in direct violation to the constitution and existing trade agreements.

    It must be the consumers fault!?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    plus you can get bougie wine from EU, too why buy cheap made american alcohol.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Lots of wine made in Canada, the buy local mentality is fairly strong.

    Not sure what you mean by bougie wine though a I'm not a wine drinker. I mean I assume France still produces some of the best wine in the world if you care about awards and what not

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I'm not a wine guy so I can't say, but BC Okanagan is wine country

    There are a about a dozen wineries around Vancouver as well

    You should come here, try some, then tell me if they were good. I think this is an excellent idea.

    I was introduced to honey wine and some of the ones I tried were tasty

    https://www.festinalente.ca/

    I did not enjoy everything but they were always trying new things.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    100% played for and got.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Newsflash: businesses don't operate in a vacuum no matter how much one whining man wants them to. Part of running a business is paying attention to how current events affect your operations and working proactively and flexibly to keep things running.

    It's as if the business owners who voted for not-this-guy knew that his election would be bad for their businesses and didn't want it to happen!

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    That's the point

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  • LOL. LMAO, even.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    If they are American, they are not innocent.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I am an American, and I have never and would never support the fascist, pedophile scum currently running the country.

    However, you're right. Hurt us harder. The dickheads in this shit hole country won't learn a lesson even as their children starve to death, but bring it on.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    If you voted Democrat (as flawed as they are) seems reasonable to give a pass. 159 million of the 236 million ie. two thirds of the voting age population either voted for trump or didn't vote at all. They allowed this to happen.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Don't give us a pass. We're American and participating in this system. We prop it up by paying taxes and continuing to buy goods and services from companies whose focus is shareholder profits, not better performance for the buyers or better pay or conditions for the workers. This is how it's designed to work: a ton of American companies are incorporated in Delaware because of the financial benefits they get, and in Delaware, a company has a legal obligation to work towards shareholder profit. That's the law on the books. There's nothing about improving product/service quality, but we've got laws to make sure the money people get the lion's share of the benefit from everybody's labor.

    There are plenty of Americans who didn't vote for this guy and hate literally everything about him and what he stands for, but until we recognize our complicity in the way the country works and start changing our shopping habits, there just aren't any innocent Americans.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    “We’re not in politics. We’re just some guys in Virginia making good whisky. But unfortunately, we’re the victims.”

    If you are not "in poltics" and you're in a democracy you've abrogated your civic duty and are part of the problem.

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