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[–] 183 points 1 year ago (14 children)

...which is why today's sponsor is NordVPN!

(don't actually use NV there are much better options, this was for comedic effect)

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (12 children)
  • [–] 126 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Overall the marketing is dishonest/over promises and there's some previous lack of transparency with data breaches along with being closed source. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NordVPN#Criticism

    There's just better options: https://thatoneprivacysite.xyz/

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    How have you not yet realised to be very doubtful and suspicious of anything that's heavily advertised on YouTube etc? Which Nord is like top 5 of along with Raid Shadow Legends, Raycon earbuds, BetterHelp and Manscaped. All, including Nord, having been widely known for years to be scams and/or just shitty products and companies. Do you really think they'd do those sponsorship deals if they were actually good and naturally got customers via word of mouth? All of this is so damn obvious.

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  • [–] 150 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    The Big Brother energy of that "We Can See You" eye in the middle is pretty high.

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah college networks are one of the biggest ones I would not trust unless I had a VPN going. Average computing? Perfectly fine. Naughty things? VPN up

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If you don't use the VPN for normal things then you leave yourself open to indentification by correlation. It's the same rule for naive Tor users. The more normal and distributed it appears in traffic, the harder it is to correlate other pieces of data they they already have access to.

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  • [–] [S] 4 points 1 year ago

    indentification by correlation

    Not in my college. They have plenty of IP addresses to not use NAT, i.e. every user gets their public IPv4, and authentication is done with WPA2-Enterprise, i.e. unique login.
    Everything is immediately traceable.

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  • [–] 124 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Friendly reminder that the panopticon we live under today was considered horrifying a hundred years ago

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  • [–] 89 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    It's still horrifying today. We're just powerless to stop it.

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  • [–] 112 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    VPN, even for legal stuff cause "we can see you" can f off tbh

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  • [+] 10 points 1 year ago (8 children)
  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Back in the olden days people scoffed at China fencing off the web, shutting down access to sites and whatnot. Now politicians in plenty of western countries actively talk about it like a good thing.

    On top of that, the big visible VPN companies are all owned by the same one or two companies, and while they boast loudly about keeping you safe, they do fuck all for privacy. You're just paying to give your data away. There's a scarce few good private VPNs, but they also don't tend to advertise much.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Well don't leave us hanging, which one's the best?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Personally I use Mullvad. They're a Swedish company and I'm located in Sweden. They had their servers taken by the authorities, who in turn were unable to recover anything of use. That's the best kind of audit you could get, and speaks volumes more than say, Apple self-proclaiming that their stuff is private with their source being "trust me bro."

    That said, I don't think you should trust a random gay dude on the internet; my judgement is based on an event that happened here, I've no idea if their infrastructure looks the same everywhere. Look into how the companies operate, who they partner up with, who owns them, etc. and make that judgement for yourself.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I've been using Private Internet Access for probably 10+ yrs.

    they say they don't keep logs, and I believe years back they even went to court for it.

    PIA VPN offers secure and fast VPN servers in 91 countries, no logs, and 24/7 support. Protect your online identity, access blocked content, and enjoy unlimited bandwidth with PIA VPN.

    and for a 3 yr plan it's like 3 bucks a month.

    when I was living in the US yrs ago I was even using prepaid Visa cards to pay (almost) truly anonymously. one step removed and all that.

    they also have the latest protocols, complete configurability on almost all devices, and split tunneling and port forwarding and the likes.

    and no, I am not a spokesperson for them.. just a happy customer.

    if they have since sold out, please enlighten me. but I'm now in a country with less to worry about.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    But if that's the extent of the approach you'd still be giving the same information to your VPN provider.

    Most people would be better off just making sure all of their traffic uses TLS. If you also need to obscure your address from your destination's host, then combine the two protections.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (8 children)
  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    And make sure it isn't PIA... I am using it and i wasnt aware it was zionist controlled!

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  • [+] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    I paid for the sub... and I am strapping for cash for now. Once I am not I will find a different provider and ditch it.

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  • [+] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I got "busted" downloading Debian once lol

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    You say you can tell what I'm downloading? Mullvad says otherwise.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Sounds like a bunch of us should put up seeds with titles like "This (1947) It's A Wonderful Life (Public Domain) is better than (2025) Fantastic Four"

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    They're just trying not to lose their internet service provider probably. ISP's are even starting to threaten their residential and commercial customers alike because they can't afford the lawsuits so network tech's are starting to turn in individuals about compliance and such.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, this is just a student-run association running it, providing connection from university's upstream ISP which apparently is easy to upset.
    I posted this because I actually find this nice, as it doesn't fully block torrents, but just specific ones, and they also make that clear. They could just block torrents and stay safe.

    Func fact: Some dorm rooms apparently actually have 2.5Gbit. I've seen the speed test. Of course, you'll need a compatible network card. Most have "only" a gigabit.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    Legal game updates as torrents? Is that a thing?

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I know WoW used bittorrent for game updates, it was built in and was the "standard" download mechanism.

    https://worldofwarcraft.fandom.com/et/wiki/Blizzard_Downloader

    I'm sure it's far from the only game that did.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Valve hired the creator of Bittorrent to design Steam.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Bram Cohen. He also created a crypto protocol called Chia, which is interesting. The idea was to create a green (ish) crypto that would leverage existing resources, in this case old storage drives. So it uses "proof of space" rather than "proof of work". The "plotter" (as opposed to computationally intensive GPU/CPU "mining") fills up your storage space with "plots", randomly generated data files ~100gb each. To earn crypto, it's basically a lottery against your plots. The network gives you a random hash, and if it matches one of your plot files, you get rewarded with a token. Very low power, keeps old storage out of landfill a while longer, and once those plots are initially made, they're good to go forever - they can "win" more than once, so the more energy-intensive process of plotting (though it's still nowhere near the consumption of proof-of-work, which is a disaster) has a natural upper limit of your total storage space.

    The difficult bit is creating the plots, it takes hours to days to create one, depending on your write speed. I put my fastest storage on that, a specialised PCIe nvme SSD. I think I was able to bang out a plot every couple hours eventually, then I would offload it to a somewhat monstrous storage server with the maximum number of drives the motherboard would support. Others in the community created massive RAM drives. Very expensive, but super duper fast.

    I plotted for a while, but cashed out when it stopped making sense economically. Eventually, the price per terabyte of storage + electricity eclipsed any significant gains. Did a lot of scavenging, haunting thrift shops, and trading up for higher storage capacity on eBay. Actually made a few grand of pure profit before the price settled down, and difficulty increased. That was the most fun I've ever had with crypto. Besides all the storage, cables and hubs, I built my "farm" solely from stuff I already had laying around. I even made a profit selling all the drives back, as this project singlehandedly pulled almost all the slack out of the used storage market. It kept a lot of equipment out of the landfill for much longer than usual, which is pretty neat.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    What happens if the price of Chia goes up enough to exhaust the supply of unused old hard drives? Bitcoin used to only consume spare CPU cycles too.

    It's shifting costs from energy to hardware - greenwashing the blockchain/AI/whatever when the real solution is time-tested pigouvian taxes on the external cost of pollution.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    That happened early on in the cycle, and it happened only once. Partly because those looking to sell did so once the coin became tradable, then the price took a nosedive and started to stabilize. Once the pressure was released, and those looking for profits exited, it didn't have the same cycles of mania as Bitcoin and the others. Further down the line, applications were built on top of the chia blockchain. It's pretty boring as cryptos go, which is a good thing.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    At least theyre making the distinction

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    debrid services for the win! just let someone else torrent it for you, and download it from them.

    AllDebrid costs €3 a month and saves you any legal headaches.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I think in the US at least even doing that is a no-no unfortunately.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    thx for clearing that up! in Europe at least, consumer protection laws cover downloads ("you're a moron who doesn't know what you're actually downloading and whether it is legal"), but seeding == distributing, which is a punishable offence

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It doesn't provide legal safety here in the states, you'll wanna use some kind of anonymizing service.

    If, however, you plan to do lots of streaming of your torrents, it is absolutely the best way to go. I am familiar with RealDebrid, which is a similar service. Its good stuff, probably pay with cash-by-mail or cryptocurrency though.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    *should really learn how to block the leeches from debrid services, because they contribute* *nothing* to the pool...*

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    AllDebrid retains files for 30 days and must be seeding a ton (how would they get high download speed otherwise?), what am i missing here?

    the caching of files also helps, since they're only leeched once, then downloaded from their servers by potentially more than one user

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    At least it's allowed, when I was in college they didn't allow any torrent traffic at all. They had also banned pings specifically, and threatened to shut off my internet if I didn't stop trying to send pings, which apparently my torrent client was doing automatically.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You can still download a car

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    If you get the torrent from a site using HTTPS and get the data only from encrypted peers is it even possible to tell what people are downloading?

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    If it was me, I'd snoop the DNS requests and/or SNI headers. Flag on torrent index sites and trackers known to be used for pirate stuff. They don't need to know exactly which paw patrol movie you're downloading, just that you are getting something from thepiratebay.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    For anything public, it's anything varying from trivial to hard/annoying depending on your client settings, but never quite impossible. Even in the best-case scenario where you have DHT turned off and all the trackers in the torrent are using HTTPS, man-in-the-middle attacks are fairly doable for anything popular.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This can be easily bypassed by joining the seeding/downloading of popular torrents which gives access to peers' IPs.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I am under-educated on this matter. Does that mean that establishments that run torrenting trackers have to seed/peer content? If so, that is very cool for people in regions where torrenting is not punished yet.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    No, it's about detection of people who seed/download. This encryption setting in torrent clients only protects you from passive external inspection of traffic done by ISP. Your ISP will still know that you use torrents (this is impossible to hide without VPN), but with encryption it won't know specific torrents that you download/seed, and won't (easily) know ip addresses of other peers (though it's also detectable since you connect to them in order to transfer data).

    However there is no protection from another peers spying on you. In order for BitTorrent to work you need to tell other peers what you are downloading and advertise your IP address. Which means that there is an implicit trust between peers. A common tactic used by IP holders is to start downloading popular pirate torrents (for which they own copyright) which gives them IP addresses of everyone who seeds/downloads specific content illegally, allowing them to proceed with legal action.

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