Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) sent a letter to the nonprofit operator of Wikipedia alleging a pattern of liberal bias in articles on the collaborative encyclopedia.

"I write to request information about ideological bias on the Wikipedia platform and at the Wikimedia Foundation," Cruz wrote to Wikimedia Foundation CEO Maryana Iskander in a letter dated October 3. "Wikipedia began with a noble concept: crowdsource human knowledge using verifiable sources and make it free to the public. That's what makes reports of Wikipedia's systemic bias especially troubling."

Citing research from the conservative Manhattan Institute, Cruz wrote that "researchers have found that articles on the site often reflect a left-wing bias." Cruz alleged that "bias is particularly evident in Wikipedia's reliable sources/perennial sources list" because it describes "MSNBC and CNN as 'generally reliable' sources, while listing Fox News as a 'generally unreliable' source for politics and science. The left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center gets a top rating, but the Heritage Foundation, a prominent conservative think tank, is a 'blacklisted' and 'deprecated' source that Wikipedia's editors have determined 'promotes disinformation.'"

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[–] 150 points 1 year ago* (12 children)

Cruz alleged that "bias is particularly evident in Wikipedia's reliable sources/perennial sources list" because it describes "MSNBC and CNN as 'generally reliable' sources, while listing Fox News as a 'generally unreliable' source for politics and science. The left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center gets a top rating, but the Heritage Foundation, a prominent conservative think tank, is a 'blacklisted' and 'deprecated' source that Wikipedia's editors have determined 'promotes disinformation.'"

It's kind of funny how when your goal becomes to present factual information, there aren't many especially right-leaning sources. I wonder why that might be.

Can you think of why that might be the case, Ted?

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I'm not sure ol' Rafael is capable of thought.

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    He is very capable of thought. He's an intelligent and well educated man who puts on a persona to further his own agenda. He is lacking empathy and morals, not thought.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    He’s an intelligent and well educated man...

    I have yet to see any evidence of that. Everything I've heard from him has always been utterly moronic.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Also, these ding-a-lings keep confusing rather mid corporate news outlets as "liberal". Also, it's awfully interesting how butthurt the right is about SPLC, I have to say. They've been howling about that one for years. Gosh, I wonder what it is about SPLC that makes them so angry?

    Reminds me of how they used to howl about ACORN until they had that little weasel O'Keefe make up a bunch of bullshit about it. Of course, a lot of these little shits have been whining about Wikipedia ever since its inception, since people constantly use it as a way to refute their LIES.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Ted isn't confusing anything here, he knows exactly what he is doing.

    ACORN

    Jesus Christ, things were so quaint back then...

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  • [–] 189 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Ted Cruz thinks we should stop attacking pedophiles

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  • [–] 71 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Left wing bias = says objectively true things about me I don’t like.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    This is literally where we are right now.

    My MAGA parents told me that they consume news "from both sides". When pressed to name a single source that they consider on the left, they could not. They didn't even try to say "CNN" or some shit, they simply could not come up with a single source.

    So thankfully, they recognized their irrationality, and are no longer MAGA.

    Lol jk 🥲

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Left wing bias = says objectively true things about me I don’t like.

    I mean, there's definitely an Americanized liberal valence to Wikipedia editing, primarily because the website is administered and edited by a bunch of libertarian-leaning liberals. But that's not the only source of editing. In fact, the primary problem with Wikipedia is that there are so many blind spots the admins can't track and such a huge incentive to fudge history in your own favor. The idea that the website is objective is fucking horseshit and instances of manipulation are well-documented.

    Wikipedia Scanner -- the brainchild of Cal Tech computation and neural-systems graduate student Virgil Griffith -- offers users a searchable database that ties millions of anonymous Wikipedia edits to organizations where those edits apparently originated, by cross-referencing the edits with data on who owns the associated block of internet IP addresses.

    Inspired by news last year that Congress members' offices had been editing their own entries, Griffith says he got curious, and wanted to know whether big companies and other organizations were doing things in a similarly self-interested vein.

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    Griffith thus downloaded the entire encyclopedia, isolating the XML-based records of anonymous changes and IP addresses. He then correlated those IP addresses with public net-address lookup services such as ARIN, as well as private domain-name data provided by IP2Location.com.

    The result: A database of 34.4 million edits, performed by 2.6 million organizations or individuals ranging from the CIA to Microsoft to Congressional offices, now linked to the edits they or someone at their organization's net address has made.

    Some of this appears to be transparently self-interested, either adding positive, press release-like material to entries, or deleting whole swaths of critical material.

    Cruz's problem is that he's wildly unpopular. Consequently, the site tends to be bombarded by folks posting "Ted Cruz fucked it again" tags to his biography far faster than his own team can polish his hagiography and take down negative news bits. If he was less high profile or more popular, he wouldn't have this problem.

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    while listing Fox News as a 'generally unreliable' source for politics and science.

    You mean that Fox News that argued it’s an entertainment show that no reasonable person would take seriously?

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is this the same Fox News that had to pay out a $800,000,000 settlement for lying about the 2020 election?

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    The point of him making this dumb comparison is to quietly sell the idea to The Stupids that Heritage, Fox and other propaganda places deserve equal consideration as reality.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (12 children)

    They need to make their own site. Magapedia? Wokepedia? Pedopedia?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Oh, wow. That’s pretty wild.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

    It gets really wild when you see what motivated its creation. These people are unbelievably stupid snowflakes.

    Schlafly also claimed that Wikipedia's allowance of both Common Era and Anno Domini notation was anti-Christian bias.

    OMG! Using CE for dates!?

    /clutches pearls

    Also, apparently they don't teach very goodly at the Eagle Forum University. This guy seemingly has not even had a 101-level course in ethics...

    However, some users may object to certain entries, such as that for 'Atheism': "Since atheists have no God, as a philosophical framework atheism simply provides no logical basis for any moral standard.

    "They live their lives according to the rule that 'anything goes'. In recent years, this has led to a large rise in crime, drug use, pre-marital sex, teenage pregnancy, pedophilia and bestiality."

    This is the kind of argumentation you'll hear from complete dumbasses in junior high: "You guyz don't even believe in my god, so coming from a framework that bears no relevancy outside of accepting that framework on faith, I declare that you have no morals!"

    Er, okay then.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    It's worse than that, it's always such a self-report: "the only thing stopping me from doing evil is fear of punishment, so everybody else must be inherently terrible shitheads too!"

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Wikipedia tries so hard to keep all articles factual and free of value judgements, while Conservapedia strives to jam partisan value judgements into every single sentence. Even their article on the Titanic is mainly there to whine about liberals. And conservatives are too stupid to understand the difference.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If reality is left of you, maybe your position is far too right?

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  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago

    Reality has a left wing bias

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  • [–] 41 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Cruz alleged that “bias is particularly evident in Wikipedia’s reliable sources/perennial sources list” because it describes “MSNBC and CNN as ‘generally reliable’ sources, while listing Fox News as a ‘generally unreliable’ source for politics and science.

    Fox News, the one that successfully argued in court they they were for entertainment purposes only and not actual news? That Fox News?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago

    "Wahhhh! They don't let us lie to you and treat us as reliable sources!"

    I can't stand these scum...

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago

    Reality has a liberal bias

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Do not treat this as just a tantrum. It's the right's playbook of moving the overton window to the right by taking extreme positions and invoking the golden mean fallacy. It certainly has worked on MSM.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    It certainly has worked on MSM.

    Its been less effective on independent media and journalists. But its also just a rhetorical ploy. The real rightward shift in mass media towards conservative bias has come with mass consolidation of media ownership over the last 40 years.

    Where as we once had a plethora of different regionalized perspectives and local coverage pools, now we're dealing with national syndication of conservative opinion pieces, police-blotter local news (incentivized by far-right broadcast managers), and wave after wave of native advertising used to turn news media into a more profitable revenue stream.

    I would say the worst thing about modern American local news isn't even the naked reactionary Op-Eds and crime stories. It is the daily drum-beat piece about the lottery - who is winning, how much the pot is worth, where you can buy tickets, how many people are excited to participate... Fucking horrible. Since I gave up terrestrial TV, these ads stick out like a pus-spewing boil on the face of every single broadcast news feed.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I recently looked into this on another forum where someone shared some articles supposedly proving bias. One article was itself highly biased to the right, so not particularly credible.

    The other article, from an organization that ranked the bias of news sources, was very neutral and objective, took accusations of bias seriously, went into detail, and removed the "unbiased" classification from Wikipedia, but didn't conclude any provable bias, leaving it unranked. The best example of bias they had was the fact that articles on socialism and communism didn't list Soviet atrocities, but those atrocities have their own pages and are also mentioned on pages of the countries involved, so that was not a great example.

    All these accusations are just the result of a massive right-wing campaign against facts and reality-based reporting. Everything that doesn't follow their propaganda is biased, according to them.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    The Wikipedia page for Capitalism also doesn’t have any atrocities in my quick check; the “criticism” section is fairly short and tame. Somehow though I’m sure this doesn’t bother conservatives.

    And to act like communism can only exist in a soviet context is just ridiculous. Like you said, the atrocities are very real and have their own pages because they’re not really so directly connected to communism. We shouldn’t lump every nasty thing the US has done into the capitalism page, either.

    God, I just wish for once conservatives would have a thought that was even vaguely consistent across their worldview but in the end all we get is record-breaking hypocrisy and twisted feelings over any kind of sense.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You mean Rafael Cruz, who uses the chosen first name of Ted?

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    @MicroWave "Reality has a known liberal bias." Stephen Colbert

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    Not false. Reality is proven to have a left-wing bias.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Attacking Wikipedia can not be normalized, we must protect it.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    How long has Wikipedia been around? Looks like since 2001. I think their stupid attacks go back that far. I'm sure they'd love to use the battering ram of a compliant moron like Taco + the force of government to shut them down, though.

    Just like they are attacking universities, law firms, science, the media, comedy....

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    The organization that runs it, Wikimedia Foundation, needs to be protected though. That's based in the USA and has 363 employees. Hosting the content isn't the hard part.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why are we still taking these right wing fascist morons seriously?

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Because they have a fuckload of power right now? Now, it’s really nore that we should take the problem seriously and the people should be dragged through the streets, so if that’s what you’re getting at then hell yea.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    Apparently things like truth and reality are left wing now. Good luck with that, psychotic ultra right wingers.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Repeat after me, Die Mad About It. The sooner the better.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Is there a way to just download a straight copy of Wikipedia?

    Def not asking because I expect every possible thing to go awry and we end up with Big Brother’s version of wiki

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    https://kiwix.org/en/applications/

    Kiwix is an offline browser for wikis.

    There's a library they have as well. I have a snapshot of Wikipedia from 2024 before the fascists took over. Also grabbed a couple others.

    I think it was like 120GB for all of Wikipedia with pictures.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)
  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Ted Cruz picks a fight with mirror, accusing it of falsely making him look like Grandpa Munster grew a beard.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    These people are such little babies. The whole reason Conservapedia exists is because they had a meltdown over using CE and BCE for dates. You know, as is the standard. But little whiny conservatives need to have their little book club centered at all times.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Any publisher of truth exhibits strong anti-fascist bias. That's because fascism is inherently anti-truth

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    I love it when this comes up in internet arguments. The mob often agrees with an individual's statement that Wikipedia is bad, and then when asked for an example it's always 100% something absolutely insane. The logical conclusion is that we're all wrong in different ways, but some people simply refuse to accept it and argue with the encyclopedia.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago*

    Now seems like a good time to do a backup.

    For local use: https://www.howtogeek.com/260023/how-to-download-wikipedia-for-offline-at-your-fingertips-reading/

    If you have a server: https://blog.stefan-koch.name/2024/11/14/self-hosting-wikipedia

    (Kiwix-serve is what you're looking for)

    Unfortunately I can't vouch for either of these instructions as I followed instructions from a now defunct privacy podcast.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    “Systemic issues are real when they affect the conservative agenda, and DEI is good when it requires including conservative propaganda.” Got it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Unfortunately, the truth often has a left-leaning bias. If right-wingers aren't ok with that, they need to demand better from their sources.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I continue to think its extremely insensitive to call him Ted. He doesn't believe in preferred names. Use his real name Rafael Edward Cruz. Yes its /s but I'm serious. Call that POS Rafael.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Raffy buddy we keep trying to Tell you reality has a left leaning bias. Maybe you'd hear it if you were ever in the states when your constituents are trying to talk to you.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Snowflakes that can't deal with their own emotions. You can't rewrite reality by edict. Go back in time if you want to fix yourself. You can't undo the harm you've caused to all of us. Best thing to do is to stop causing harm.

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  • wikipedia just tells the truth it just happens that the truth has a left-wing bias

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    "Dear sir or madam. I hope the day finds you well. I'm writing to let you know:

    1. You are how you are
    2. I don't like it
    3. as a private entity, you are well within your rights to tell me to fuck right off
    4. in which case I will cry and rub my hurting bottom

    Thank you for your attention to this matter."

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Reality does not have a right-wing bias. Reality does not have a left-wing bias. But when the right has festered into such an anti-scientific culture as to be at war with truth and reality itself to the point at putting us all at an accelerated risk of a new dark age - then reality is maybe just a little more biased in favor of literally everyone else.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    To fascists like Cruz, "left wing bias" means "they are reporting unbiased data instead of compliantly rewriting everything to align with our centralized propaganda machine."

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    They relay objective information, so yes of course they do

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Sorry Ted, no one will ever forget how Trump made your suck his cock after he insulted your wife.

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