By this time next year it will either be its own thing or part of another country, this place will be a Balkanized mess by then

Also if I get to displace some American jag off that moved there. They don’t get to trade with me and come here, but I get to kick them out and take their house.

or alaska, but its probably better to be in mexico or canada.

What else would you do, reluctantly, for money?
See, Larry Ellison owns about 98% of the island of Lanai. He's got a bunker there.
Zuckerberg also owns property on Lanai, has a bunker there (a Lanai local told me), in addition to his ranch on Kauai.
Peter Thiel, probably similar. Musk, similar... Oprah, etc.
So we'll get you the GoFundMe money, but we have a mission for you...

We appreciate that but what we really need are more bullets and prescription drugs

I basically dgaf about - oh I dunno - 178 million of them. You know, the 77 million who voted for this fascist clownshow plus the 101 million who didn’t even bother voting. They can all rot in their self-made hell for all I care.

Not that we'd expect this one to.

Weird that that community doesn't exist on Lemmy yet.

@Dave@lemmy.nz, would you be up for hosting it? Having it on the NZ instance would be *chef's kiss*.

Even the snowbirds I know are taking a pass. That country is in a badddd place.

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Yeah I was thinking visiting was off limits, and I think I'm taken as a white dude, though generics will say otherwise. Half my ancestors discovered America the other half didn't think they lost it, sort of thing. Also I try not to visit countries with fascist governments.

Never is in red, absolutely is in green, the entire map is colored red. There is nothing but the never red shown anywhere on the map beyond the key.

It is a bad choice for the colors chosen, as they are the perfect red/green opposite for color blindness to see as the same color.

Note: this not written as snarky to Fly_Dutch_Rudder, itt is meant as a helpful explanation of the map.

You can join Poland willingly or be conquered.

I don’t know about other countries but Canada has issued warnings for Canadians with gender neutral passports to avoid the US.

No one on Earth could be as cruel as the US is to its own people

Realistically Canada is going to put off allowing asylum seekers from the US as long as possible, as the volumes of asylum seekers the US handles (that are no longer welcome there) would overwhelm Canada. That's without considering American asylum seekers too.

You best bet is to consider immigrating through traditional, economic based pathways.

Canada already has precedent of not extraditing trans people here because of the climate for queer people. June I think.

? just come on over, I don't think we are closed off to immigration. Unless you are an ass, then I am not your buddy pal.

beat me to it.

It was one big conference call, we were all on it.

Somebody was chewing food (I’m looking at you Todd from Kingston Ontario), but the call went okay.

Even before the current shit that's going down, I would advise against moving to the states. it's just not worth it.