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[–] 24 points 1 year ago

HAHAHAHAHA really, that's the best they could come up with?

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What's with their insane obsession with autism?

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    Mainly i think its because It sounds scary to people who don’t understand it and it is scary when you witness the abuse commonplace in households where the parent of an autistic kid don’t understand it.

    Another possible reasons, there is also something to be said about the historical link between lgbtq and autism communities. Mainly rejecting the social constructs of gender “being told to act a way that feels superficial and unnatural to your identity”

    Far more anecdotally. Many autistic people take a high stance on justice (their personal understanding), they often almost demand common sense reasoning, refuse things perceived as bullshit or not correct. Naturally struggle with lies and deception to the point of being trained to avoid it, finding escapism and relief in logic and a structure that eliminates suprises.

    That doesn’t mean there are no autistic people that are bad people, liars, narcissists. Some actually learn to become like this often bitter from a world that rejects them. But in general the majority of autistic people i know could be considered far left radicals.

    The Elon Musks are outnumbered by Greta Thunbergs basically. And with the Elons enjoying corporate protections they attack the Gretas indirectly with scary autism stories.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Interesting take, and no doubt true to an extent.

    I'd like to add that blowing the autism whistle is just an easy way to rile up 2 important sections of their base: those who don't know any better, and trolls.

    It's the same as saying Jews are responsible for all of the world's misfortunes. Trolls know it isn't true, but they don't care and will push the lie as an endless joke. Then people who don't know any better come along and can't wrap their heads around what's going on, so they fall for it like flat-earthers or scientologists.

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  • Others have posted some well-reasoned replies. I agree with them.

    Anecdotally, I recall my autistic friends in school and the insane crap they had to contend with from bullies. For some reason, bullies can smell the neurodivergent a mile away and zero in like a laser-guided bomb. Perhaps it's the awkward social cues, or simply that they tend to be socially isolated. Either way, the consensus was basically "autistic = good target."

    These same people are now all grown up and vote.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Phew. This is just insanely dumb but at least they can’t spin it into an eugenics solution.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    A nazi would just say you're autistic because you mother took tylenol decades ago. That's reason enough to put you in a mental institution. Or whoever they want. Because they're nazis.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    This doesn’t make sense. Even in the wildest dreams nobody is going to mental institution because his/her mother took tylenol during pregnancy for more reasons that I have stamina to list.

    I genuinely think RFK is on too many drugs and that he’s in the middle of AI induced psychosis. I say that because he forgot to account for his antivaxxer fans who are having a meltdown now.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    condition marked by social as well as communication difficulties and behaviors that are repetitive.

    Everyone has these, assholes. Y’all have no idea what autism is.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    They just took the Wikipedia definition and butchered it:

    Autism, also known as autism spectrum disorder (ASD),[a] is a condition characterized by differences or difficulties in social communication and interaction, a need or strong preference for predictability and routine, sensory processing differences, focused interests, and repetitive behaviors.[4]

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Everyone goes pee, but if you do it 30 times a day, it’s time to see a doctor.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Correct but so is the comment above you.

    Non autistic people are just as incapable of communicating with me as i am with them, But i can communicate to people that are like me completely fine.

    Repetition of a action or series of actions is not a symptom of any disability but a way to manage the actual struggles with living in a society that is not designed to include our way of thinking/living by creating predictable paths that work well for us. Or in the case of stimming to overcome overstimulation senses (by feeling everything much more intensely) by replacing them with comforting known stimuli.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Not everybody has those to the same extent. This is like saying „everyone’s a bit autistic” which is just harmful. To meet diagnostic criteria it has to significantly interfere with your day to day. For the NTs who’ll never understand anyway this is about as plain as they can take it.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Here's how this goes:

    Nazi: "Did your mother ever take tylenol?"

    You: anything other than no, absolutely not. Not once. Ever.

    Nazi: "She did? Then you're autistic and you are mentally unfit. We're declaring you incompetent immediately, and putting you in a for-profit private mental health facility permanently for the good of christian nazi society."

    You: Anything

    Nazi: "Take away that autistic scumbag!"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    OK, but I'm more concerned about the liver function issues. Tylenol is OK if you're to the point where you can't take it anymore.

    Seriously, those medications sometimes are worse than the problem.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    If Tylenol hit the market today, it would be prescription only. My best friend's wife crashed her liver on it, was in a coma for 2-months until she got a new one.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I got it for back pain. Then I realized that the pain was way stronger after I had the Tylenol. So I stopped. Later on I learned about the dangers. Tylenol is not something to take daily. Its a couple times when you're dying of pain type of med. The worst part is that they put Tylenol on flu medication so you get a heavy dose every year no matter what.

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    [–] 138 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    So not even acetaminophen, but specifically Tylenol.

    Man that's an easy lawsuit to win if I ever heard one.

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    So they can re-authorize all the vaccines now, right?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Want to reduce autism? Reduce pollution. But this is the guy that's dismantling all environmental regulations.

    Exposure to fine particulate air pollution (PM2.5) has been linked with significantly increased risk of autism spectrum disorder (ASD) in children, particularly if exposure occurs during the third trimester of pregnancy or during early childhood, according to a meta-analysis from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

    The study was published April 29, 2021, in Environmental Research Letters.

    The authors noted that there has been a steep rise in the prevalence of childhood diagnosis of ASD over the past several years, from 6.7 per 1,000 people in 2000 to 16.8 per 1,000 people in 2014. Possible risk factors include those related to family, such as genetics or parental age, or the environment. Previous studies have found an association between exposure to ambient particulate matter (PM) and neurobehavioral dysfunction, but they’ve been inconclusive regarding the link between PM exposure and the development of ASD.

    https://hsph.harvard.edu/news/air-pollution-linked-with-increased-risk-of-autism-in-children/

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    That and stop having kids at 35+.

    But that's not socially acceptable to say.

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  • [–] 35 points 1 year ago* (6 children)

    Why is this dumbfuck is so obsessed with autism?

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago*

    because it's something people don't understand but desperately want to 'solve'.

    so you can leverage it to manipulate them. most of the anti-autism stuff is less about autism and more about controlling sad people who desperately want answers and feel 'victimized' by autisms existence

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

    Really? Sure is weird then how the famously autistic Temple Grandin was alive & 8 years old when Tylenol came on the market.

    Also, millions of other autistic people.

    -EDIT-

    Also:

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406

    Findings In this population-based study, models without sibling controls identified marginally increased risks of autism and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) associated with acetaminophen use during pregnancy. However, analyses of matched full sibling pairs found no evidence of increased risk of autism (hazard ratio, 0.98), ADHD (hazard ratio, 0.98), or intellectual disability (hazard ratio, 1.01) associated with acetaminophen use.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Suppose it was discovered via rigorous scientific research that paracetamol does dial up the risk of autism. That would not be impossible in a world that had autism prior to the invention of paracetamol, as you suggest.

    Obviously we're not likely to get rigorous scientific research under RFK Jr, but broken clocks can be right twice a day.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago* (9 children)

    We both know good & well this isn't what happened.

    Not saying you're either, but giving fascists the benefit of the doubt is generally something only ignorant people or other fascists do.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    In the realm of science, I tend not to assume.

    RFK Jr wants to assert paracetamol raises the risk of autism? Okay, prove it or shut up about it.

    I don't jump to "shut up about it" just because I hate the guy, and generally educated people don't either.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    If you actually think there has been any kind of scientific study over the past 8 months that can prove this, I don't know what to tell you.

    I'm autistic, my kids are as well. These people are dangerous.

    Quit giving fascists the benefit of the doubt.

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2817406

    Findings In this population-based study, models without sibling controls identified marginally increased risks of autism and attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) associated with acetaminophen use during pregnancy. However, analyses of matched full sibling pairs found no evidence of increased risk of autism (hazard ratio, 0.98), ADHD (hazard ratio, 0.98), or intellectual disability (hazard ratio, 1.01) associated with acetaminophen use.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    The harm created by RFK incessantly reciting unproven claims may not affect you, but many people will not do their own research and will trust what the gov has to say on the matter. These people may then place 'blame' on mothers of autistic children for using tylenol. Then the state says it was the mothers fault and that their child will get no special medical treatment because their 'disability' was caused by drug abuse. Therefore, I think it is perfectly fine to say 'Shut up about it!' to RFK because spouting out unverified claims can cause real harm to our friends and family, even if it isnt harming us(you or I) directly. Scientists don't just publish hypotheses - they do the research first then get it peer reviewed THEN publish it. So yea, RFK is a dipshit doing real harm and he should shut up about it.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Your giving the benefit of the doubt to RFK Jr !?

    Your assumption about educated people is clearly suspect. This has nothing to do with hate either. I don't hate idiots, but I also don't take medical advice from them either.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yep. Science is all about abandoning your personal feelings in pursuit of knowledge. I don't have to like the guy to wonder if he's on to something and await the actual data on the matter.

    Your point about taking medical advice from him is irrelevant, considering I haven't done that.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Looks like it may be time to head back to Reddit. To even pretend that RFK is using science just proves how laughably disturbed you are. The only point you have proven here is being obstinate. I am blocking you now.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would absolutely love to see all the stock put plays that happened behind doors by insiders on Friday. This seems like a corrupted stock move more than anything. Announced on a weekend no less.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    That's great! Where are the Epstein files?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What is the point of this ?

    The Trump admin was never going to release anything incriminating.

    The Epstein files are the distraction from all the other fuckery going on.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    ouroborous, we have to start somewhere and defeating any starting point, well...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm not the one defeating starting points.

    In the time you've been disregarding all inputs in favor of this glib "but what about the epstein files" comment, things have gotten progressively worse.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Holding this admin to account in anything else has repeatedly failed only Epstein has made this admin squirm. Look at how aggressively they are martyring Kirk bc it's distraction from Epstein. That assassination has been mighty effective on changing their narrative, unfortunately.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    How about the Epstein files, do they cause autism?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    ASD has a heritability of around 80-90 percent (variance explained by genetics). That's about the same as human height. There are important environmental factors, but this is probably bullshit considering the source. You can tell when they don't mention the effect size (the increased probability of developing the disorder) which is probably very low.

    Autism is a severe neurodevelopmental disorder and there are no easy answers. Trump and RFK Jr are liars and morons, and this preys on desperate parents trying to help their kids.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago*

    Can we please tie MAGA to NPD?

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    I understand they are also going to release information that links severe back related injuries to mothers, to one or more of their children stepping on a crack.

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    Why does everything cause autism now 💹

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    [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I guess he doesn't like the brand with "stop. Think." As their slogan

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  • Cruelty is the point. Can't have women getting pain relief.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Choo-choo! Lawsuit incoming!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    get your Tylenol now before they force a recall.

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    I wouldnt. Like, the symptoms can be inconvenient, but I find the prospect of even imagining what my personality and thought process would be like if I suddenly wasnt autistic to be difficult enough that if a drug that suppressed it suddenly came out, I probably would be too anxious to actually take it. Certainly wouldnt ignore child abuse over it.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

    It is very likely that we know the mechanism and treatment for autism. It is possible that adults may not benefit as much from treatment as children, but more clinical trials are needed. Because the treatment involves a well known 100-year-old drug that big pharma can’t monopolize, they haven’t exactly jumped at the chance to accelerate more trials. Those that have been done so far have been nothing short of miraculous.

    I recommend the following reading and studies.

    https://brainfoundation.org/suramin-for-autism-update-2023/

    https://tacanow.org/family-resources/medical-article-common-medical-issues/the-cell-danger-response-in-autism/

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10626700/

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Please tell me how exactly "big pharma" profits from autism.

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    There is nothing to explain because I made no such claim. I’m not sure how you could arrive at an assumption like that. Did you read my comment or did you see the phrase “big pharma” and fill in the rest with assumptions?

    Pharma companies make money on patentable drugs that they can monopolize. They pursue the avenues that are likely to be most profitable, and profitability increases when there is less competition. A 100 year old drug that cannot be monopolized is a less profitable pursuit than others which can be monopolized. The condition to be treated is beside the point in the math of profitability.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago

    What are you talking about.

    Any drug can be patented again on a new use. This conspiracy theory comes from hydroxychloroquine days and it was bullshit then.

    Anyone can get rich patenting an old drug, you just need to PROVE it actually works for that new disease.

    And get back to Reddit...you linked a study that actually proves suramin is 100% safe but completely ineffective in a trial of only 44 with no placebo controls.

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