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On one hand I'm glad this is actually going to get some attention and answers.
On the other hand, I'm pissed that 1) it has to be a rich private citizen to get it done, and 2) this story didn't even make it a whole day in the news cycle because a cut-and-dry murder of a fascist was--and still is--more important.
Is an autopsy independent? I have no idea how that even works, but i wouldn't trust it at all if the police has any way to get their fat fingers in between the autopsy and the results.
It's done by an independent person with no connection to any branch of government or police.
Who is elected, and typically runs with the support of a political party.
Yes the government does an autopsy and your concerns absolutely apply. However, the family is free to do a followup autopsy with whomever they wish. That's what this funding is for.
How much could an autopsy really cost?
A couple thousand dollars.
Are you assuming or do you know? Do coroner surgeons really get paid that much for a few hours work? How many tests are performed?
Bro, it's healthcare. The coroners aren't getting paid that, the hospital is. And yes, a Google search puts it between free (for criminal cases the state is pursuing) to a few thousand dollars for private autopsies.
$3000-$10,000, depending on tests required, but in this case they would only be interested in evidence of defensive wounds or trauma caused by someone else.
I found a place in Colorado that does private autopsies for the entire continental US: https://www.postmortempath.com/
I verified they're a real business. Here's an excerpt from their FAQ:
How much does an autopsy cost?
A private autopsy generally runs between $3000 to $5000, depending on the company that you use and how many additional tests and procedures you wish to be performed.
Gosh, if only we had some sort of object at our fingertips that would let us look up information like that in an instant… perhaps something that could even let us look at several different sources to compare information…
Because the internet said so? I can't imagine it costing anything else.
10 dollars?
Bout tree fiddy
Can we not do the Reddit thing where it's a race to post the funniest comment on even the heaviest topics, drowning out serious discussions?
Dumb jokes are my coping mechanism for the ever-growing darkness that is slowly consuming my country and my soul.
Can we not do the thing where we complain about innocent comments that annoy us just to get our domaine instead of just blocking the user and never having to see it again?
"A little bit of litter is no big deal; who cares if we make a shared space worse?"
You’re making the shared space worse.
As I said to the other user:
Some people dislike litter more than they dislike people pointing out litter, and some feel the opposite. You are in the latter category.
Let me point out your littering.
It's definitely a stance to take, saying that complaining about anything is awful. It's not a very sensible stance, but you're welcome to it.
Gotta say, i prefer a South Park reference to your whining about said reference.
...who's really stinking up the joint, in this scenario?
You.
You're making a personal attack out of me asking someone not to Reddit our Lemmy.
"Our" lemmy. And yet, you don't speak for me. Interesting.
Conservatives: Kaepernick paid the coroner to say it was murder
(they said the same with George Floyd’s autopsy)
That's great, but we shouldn't have to rely on the graciousness of a football player to find justice.
Not to suggest that the federal government had been doing an infallible job in helping with justice, but this is going to be the only way most people receive justice as long as Project 2025 associates are in office. (Sadly we also have to keep in mind even if an autopsy reveals foul play, actual justice is still an uphill battle).
The department of Justice only exists now to further the agenda, and to continue to help roll back all protections of civil rights and liberties.
Who should we rely on? Justice is fought for and won, never given away.
The justice system, who we as citizens pay for probably
It’s a judicial system, not a justice system. It serves those in power by preserving law and order.
They are paid from your taxes, they should serve you.
I believe that this is the same point: this is not a case of justice being won, and we should still fight for the right thing to be done in the first place (presumably just being paid for as part of a criminal investigation, among a broader context).
What amazes me most about this article is that the US justice system so broken that such a foundation has a reason to exist.
Well at least youre not reading this on /c/upliftingnews as if anything about this situation is good. I always found articles like this (or "Billionaire hands out free sack lunches to starving orphans") posted there to be quite infuriating.
The original headline doesn't mention that he was hanging from a tree, which is bullshit. It changes what people understand from what happened. Could it have been suicide? Maybe, but I doubt it.
This is from 2020
What was the original headline?
I dunno, it's good it wasn't in the headline? It'd have been clickbait - the article makes it clear this is suspected suicide but that the police / FBI are keeping open minds because of the obvious connotations.
Suicide by hanging is unfortunately a common method taken by young men. The lack of any other signs makes foul play unlikely - without going into too much detail, unless he was drugged there would be signs of a struggle or injuries related to being restrained if it had been foul play. It sounds like there weren't obvious signs of either and the toxicology results are awaited.
the article makes it clear this is suspected suicide but that the police / FBI are keeping open minds because of the obvious connotations.
Just so you know, the cops have said quite specifically they don't think it was anything but suicide.
Its also a heavily racist area and no one should trust cops in the first place, making for a bad combo. Thats why the family will want an autopsy from someone independent of the police.
I'd like to know where on the property this tree is. Was this in some quiet corner where he's unlikely to be interrupted, or out in front of the building where the public is going to see it?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/xkZSySTvTQ9iai7G9
Seems to be there. At night, you could probably either hang yourself or someone else and not be noticed or interrupted. I don't think it really signifies either way.
Good fucking deal. Hell, Mississippi should be paying for this to avoid any accusations of bias. Maybe a bad precedent for the state to allow second-guessing, but this particular case screams for a second opinion.
My gut tells me the guy hung himself in a way to stir shit up. Keep in mind, this guy's college was roughly 50/50 black/white. I'm sure there's plenty of racism to go round, but he wasn't living in some backwoods redneck business. But I'm not believing anything until we get an independent autopsy.
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