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What did I miss?
They like completely overhauled the UI lol
That overhauled UI is buggy as shit, slow to do anything and is objectively worse as features that were already present were removed.
Feature removal might e been excused if the UI was simplified and fast and responsive. But slow and buggy UI to replace relatively well functioning UI angered almost all users. I'm had to force install an old version of plex client exactly to avoid the non-sense.
It's very bad
The thing about the redesign that irks me the most is that browsing your own personal library is unnecessarily convoluted the way it’s now organized. It’s a big step backwards in terms of navigation.
Oh dude this pisses me off SO MUCH!!! MY DAMN content should be front and center, not your stupid ads.
And now we are on jellyfin and scrapped plex. Fuck them.
I switched off like 2 years ago because of how many clicks it took to get to my things.
Cant imagine how bad it is now.
It’s now no longer possible to manually refresh libraries from the app. Amazing. Less functionality.
They've "streamlined" your experience.
If jellyfin could correctly sort my media with thumbnails I would switch in a second.
What, thats crazy. I am always updating libraries from the app after getting subs or whatever
Like many others, I switched to Jellyfin years ago. It is way, way better for me. It does what it says on the tin, sometimes more, but not less.
You mean you don't like recommendations by default of the media you downloaded because you know exactly what you want to watch?
I really never understood that.
My assumption is that it's a bridge to some sort of legitimacy like a movie rental deal or something. Like inserting ads into your self hosted media.
I have Jellyfin in parallel now and I had to face the family during summer with questions like “why I cant do this with the app anymore “ “ why did you change it” sigh 😔 so I started to put energy on jelly because that was unacceptable way to rollout a botched change.
I was in a previous update wave, and it made me switch to Jellyfin too. I cast from my phone to my TV, and they did something that made subtitles basically impossible to load via Chromecast. Even trying to automatically burn in subtitles didn't work for this mode.
Also, while a "minor" nitpick, Chromecast used to show random movie/TV show posters when you connected and also show the media details when you selected something, now it just shows a big PLEX logo all the time unless playing something.
Crap, I still haven't logged ba k in since they asked me to log out because of the security compromise. I'm gonna have to lose a day and figure out this whole jellyfin thing I guess.
For what it's worth jellyfin is really not that hard to set up
I spent hours and couldn't get it to show up on any device except the desktop it was installed on so I think your mileage may vary.
Fair enough.
Opening ports to the network seems to "just work" or be hours of forum diving.
What OS where you using?
Windows. Yeah I just couldn't get it after much forum diving and I really couldn't figure it out. When this computer dies I'm likely switching to Linux so maybe that'll help but until then, Plex without updating is the way to be.
I hate to suggest the devil, but did you try asking ChatGPT? It actually help with some things. Or actually, nevermind. Just switch to Linux.
+1 to that. I’m not very tech savvy and I could figure it out with a couple YouTube tutorials.
I'm not sure I can switch. I have too many friends linked to my server and a decade-ish of watched data.
I know many people watch from TV apps and Chromecasts and I don't know if there's an app for every TV brand for jellyfin or emby or whatever.
People watch from all sorts of weird devices. I got push back when I forced SSL because at least one person had a TV so old that it didn't support doing SSL for Plex. It took me a week to drill it into their brain that I'm not going to change it back and to go buy literally anything to make it work (Chromecast type thing). I think their ended up buying a Roku.
This is just the brainpower that most of the people I share with, have. They just want easy. I do all the hard work in the background and their life is easy.
I can't imagine how many would have a fit if I forced them off Plex. Jellyfin looks cool and all, but it's unlikely I'll be able to move anytime soon.
You can run Jellyfin side by side and slowly migrate everyone, starting from the most intelligent users (so you can catch anything that might be wrongly configured, etc.).
In the meantime, I hope that so many users are switching that we're going to get better native apps.
Why do you let other people dictate how you run your media server?
It didn’t sound like they do. Just that at least one person complained but bought a Roku to fix.
I don't. There's just a nontrivial number of people I care about that use Plex that don't know enough about technology to handle something like jellyfin.
Losing years of watched data isn't great, but ultimately it's small potatoes.
A big part of the reason I wanted to set up Plex to begin with, was so that my friends and family didn't have to waste their time downloading the stuff that all of us want to watch.
They don't demand anything, I want them to be able to use it because I care about those people. If switching to jellyfin is too difficult for the non-techs I care about, then I'll keep rolling with Plex.
I understand that it's not so bad, but you made it sound like a hellish landscape
This is why I have Plex, emby, and jellyfin running in tandem. Plex still makes my life easier than the other two in a lot of ways, but it's been slipping for years. Once I've finally had enough, jellyfin all the way.
I'm running jellyfin, can't recommend it enough. It's been catching up quite steadily to Plex and I still control everything. Can't complain about that.
I also love Jellyfin, but it needs more contributors.
Too many features need improvement, for example the watch party, or the native apps.
Yeah I use plexamp a lot too and finamp is rough and reminds me of Android apps from 2012.
I also had weird quirks in the past where shows would crash and stop streaming or it would forget my position I stopped watching at, among other things.
And the hardest one is the manual labour I put in to make lists and fetch missing metadata that was actually accurate.
Plex amp is still better than finamp for now. But it's catching up that's for sure.
Need context ..what's happening here?
Ig they're rolling it out in waves, they decided to overhaul their app UI...for the worse IMO
Plex did an update that took the perfectly good UI and fucked it hard, removed features, and generally is shit
I switched to Emby. Which I now access via SenPlayer. Am I doing this right?!?!
Am I doing this right
Well if you ask me, not really, I disavowed emby years ago and afaic its just Plex and Jellyfin in this space to me
Ok, you’re gonna have to unpack that one for me! Plex was always messing things up with transcoding, and I hate the Jellyfin UI and always had trouble getting it working and keeping it working.
Here's a comment I wrote on it about a year ago
Tldr; they are an early example of open source enshittification before enshittification was even coined (iirc)
This is going to go back quite a ways, and much of my knowledge is old at this point so some details might be off.
~15 years ago Plex as we know it started out as an OSX fork of the 0G Xbox homebrew software XBMC (Later renamed Kodi (For those who don't know, XBMC was XBox Media Center and would turn the 0g Xbox into the cheapest Home Theater PC you could get at the time, man those were the days lol))
Plex was only briefly open source and then was quickly closed when they incorporated a year or so after they had something functional. They never made any promises about not charging or being open source or anything, so that's why I'm generally fine with Plex
Sometime around 2012ish Emby came along as THE open source alternative to Plex and things were good. MOST of it was supposed to stay open source as was promised. From the beginning they kept build scripts n such closed source, probably should have caught on them, but heh ya know hindsight and all that.
Then around 2014/5 they took it all closed source, relicensed it and introduced their paywall including locking away already existing features. This is what pissed me and many others off and this is when and why Jellyfin split off promising to be truly fully open source forever. (There was a ton of drama about it at the time, but it looks like Embys Q&A thing a bit back doesn't even bother to mention it, imagine that lol)
I don't have a problem with subscriptions on open source software myself, but the way they went about it...yea. fuck em
Fair. And I agree with your stance. But I don’t feel like setting something else up again, especially if it’s a thing that has caused me problems in the past, like Jellyfin. I miss XBMC.
How was Plex messing up transcoding?
It kept trying to transcode things when I just wanted direct uncompressed streaming
Likely a codec issue with your client player. The client couldn’t play the file (either video or audio) natively, so the server transcoded the file so it could.
Transcoding is a feature. I understand why you would rather it direct stream, but you’ve got to make sure the client can play the file natively.
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