The vast majority of students rely on laptops – and increasingly AI – to help with their university work. But a small number are going analogue and eschewing tech almost entirely in a bid to re-engage their brains

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[–] 32 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I did that in uni, too. Everyone brought their laptops to the lectures while I took notes on paper. Writing by hand makes your brain absorb the information better I think

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It does. I vastly prefer writing notes by hand than typing em. But my handwriting sucks when I have to write quickly, and I also don’t like lugging around giant stacks of paper. And so I settled on a digital writing pad, and just do the work to type my notes later. Acts as revision too.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    so I settled on a digital writing pad

    Which hardware/OS?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It does, but in my experience, it's way worse for recollection.

    Electronic devices are superior when it comes to storing and organizing data, which makes it a better tool if you prefer to use active recall as a memorisation method.

    I had literal books worth of notes until switching to a tablet (a stylus keeps the benefits of writing, btw). And going over them when preparing for exams was an absolute nightmare.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    I absolutely love doing everything on the computer and can’t stand writing things by hand anymore. I’ve always learned simply by listening — instructors that force students to take notes were the worst because I would be too busy scrambling to write things down than actually listening and learning.

    All of this goes out the window when it comes to foreign language though. I have to do everything old school: textbooks, pencil and paper, and if it’s a non-Latin character set I have to write the same characters over and over for hours.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    For me I always wrote as i listened, still do often. I rarely read the notes back.

    'Revision' was just writing a whole new set of notes either from memory or from sources. Then, never reading that set of notes.

    Massive waste of paper and ink, but it's part of how i pay attention. Most of my lecturers did provide printouts of all the slides, but I'd scribble all over them anyway.

    Typing doesn't do the same thing at all for me.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    I always take notes, listening shmistening it's in one ear out the other, reading and writing helps me absorb information much easier, but I never did take notes when we were forced to use pen and paper, once we switched to laptops in high school, I could note down every word because typing is so much easier and faster.

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    [–] 109 points 1 year ago (23 children)

    Title is misleading:

    Nick, a philosophy student at the University of Cambridge, stopped using his laptop for university work in the last year of his undergraduate degree. He still types his essays, but lecture notes, revision, and essay planning are all done by hand.

    The second sentence contradicts the first:

    stopped using his laptop for university work

    then

    He still types his essays

    So basically he's not taking a laptop in to the lecture hall to take notes etc but is still using a computer to complete his work. Which makes sense as pen & paper in that environment is way more practical anyway.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    All assignments are submitted electronically now, and if he's in philosophy, he will also have to follow formatting requirements like font, font size, margins, and spacing. Practically, he's doing as much as he is allowed off-computer.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    They're still using computers to do their university work and submit it though. It's more about them not using a laptop in a lecture hall and using pen and paper instead. That's not really a big deal considering that's probably what most people were doing anyway up until relatively recently.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, the way he does it is basically how everyone did it even 10 years ago. The tools were mostly the same then as they are now, with the exception of AI and the fact that handwriting wasn't as big a thing anymore when today's undergrads were in school. If you have a fluid and moderately quick handwriting, paper notes will typically be easier to take and more useful for revising the material later on.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Studies have also shown that taking notes by writing causes better learning outcomes compared to typing.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    That's only true if you don't refer to your notes. Reviewing notes has a much stronger correlation to remembering than how those notes are generated.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    I had a math teacher in highschool that allowed us make a "cheat sheet" during tests -- it had to be hand written on an index card. I discovered that if I actually made a "cheat sheet" I rarely needed to look at it. It's the same for hand-written lists when I'm shopping.

    For a lot of people there's something about actually writing information down (by hand) the makes it "stick" better in memory.

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  • And there are studies about just that. However, when you review your notes, it matters a lot less what method you used to create the notes.

    If you're unlikely to actually study your notes, handwriting is better. If you're likely to study them, use whatever is most convenient for studying.

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  • [+] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    For rote memorization, sure.

    I'm more talking about conceptual things, say, in math. You don't need to memorize it, but you do need to remember how it works. For that, I find the textbook to be the most helpful, and class time is to help understand the textbook. For that type of thing, I don't need to reference my notes in the future, I mostly need to pay attention in class and revisit the material again later to make sure I got it. Handwriting can help with that type of retention.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have ADHD and didn't get diagnosed or medicated until after I was out of school.

    I basically had two options: pay attention in class or attempt to take notes.

    I had so many teachers in grade school complain I didn't take notes, or do homework but that was a different complaint. The issue was that when I took notes I would miss chunks of information as I was writing and my writing was basically illegible because I was trying to put it down fast. If I slowed down to make it neat I would miss even more information. So any notes I took would be next to useless and I wouldn't remember anything. And that's without even determining what I needed to write down.

    Grade school was also slow passed and repetitive enough that most of the time I could sit and watch or doodle while listening and retain the information. Basically the only thing I struggled with was spelling because it was just rote memorization.

    College was a bit harder in some cases beyond general ed, but for the classes I needed to study for I was able to re-watch the recorded lectures and take the time to write stuff out since I could rewind and pause.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Maybe he's lugging a massive typewriter around.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I used to take my laptop into the lecture hall but I hardly ever actually used it.

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  • Same. I mostly used it for homework between classes.

    I found the most effective strategy for me was to do the reading before class, bring the book in to refer to, listen intently for things I didn't get from the book, and reread the section after class. If the professor specifically called out something to take notes on, I'd either do that on my phone or pull out my laptop (esp just before midterms or finals).

    My handwriting is awful and I almost never refer to my notes anyway.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Is taking notes by hand really that exceptional? When I went to college ages ago I only typed essays on a desktop computer, studying was done with textbook + lecture notes, maaybe with a handful of online resources.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I can kind of see this right now. I'm in a first year course and almost everyone has a laptop in front of them. I'm in a fourth year course and most people use paper notes. It could be survivorship or a result of differences in the desks, or it could be generational.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I hate how the term Luddite has been co-opted as a blanket term for someone who rejects technology for any reason. The original Luddites were a labor movement who were angry that technology was taking people’s livelihoods while society was doing nothing to prevent those people from becoming destitute.

    Kinda exactly how AI is going to fuck over a lot of people while primarily benefiting the rich people who own it.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Was gonna bring up the same point about Luddites. They were absolutely pro-automation.

    They saw greedy corporations using automation, and getting ready to fuck their society into the dirt, so they started petitioning their local governments, tried to negotiate and drew up the plans for a social security program ~150 years before one was actually implemented, smashed a bunch of expensive corporate equipment when the government wouldn't respond, then the government sided with corporate, used the military to drag all the men, women, and children into public squares and executed every last one of them. Even relatives and companions that weren't in the group and didn't participate. So thoroughly annihilated that it left an informational pinhole in the history books, and the name was co-opted into an insult. Now we're really not sure if John Ludd even existed, maybe the name was just a mythical legend already, and was used as a rally point to boost morale.

    And here we are, barely 200 years in the future, about to repeat the fuzzy spots again and rediscover why we brought citrus fruits with us on the ships, with the general population completely oblivious to the brutality the owner class is ready and able to deploy.

    What happens if the tech bros are right, and the machine doesn't need 9/10ths of the human population any more?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Indeed. The Luddites the high-skilled technology workers of their time! And were the first bloody chapter of the labour movement, nearly erased from that history by their oppressors. "Blood in the machine" by Brian Merchant is a great history of this.

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  • [–] 49 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    Laptops are extremely useful. It really doesn't make sense to avoid them.

    I pretty much treat mine as my second brain.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Just remember to back that shit up.

    Nothing like forgetting your brain on public transport and getting instant amnesia for the past five years.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ever read Stross's Accelerando? Not far off plot there.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    As someone who studied without laptop through an entire bachelor's degree - it is a valid option, and I still often make handwritten notes of study materials.

    When you write things down by hand, you process information for longer and use more parts of your brain to do so, which genuinely helps to memorize study materials.

    It also allows for more focus. Personally, I found that when I moved, eventually, to using laptop in my studies, it has reduced my attention span and added unnecessary distractions. When all you have at your fingertips is paper and a pen, there is nowhere to get astray.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    eh. i prefer desktops. i see the use of laptops, but i prefer to use as little disposable tech as possible.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Maybe something like a Framework would be appropriate?

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  • it's closer to my wants, but basic spreadsheets are all my clients need right now and that really doesn't need any more processing power than a phone has. i plug a keyboard and a mouse in and i'm able to work off of there. if i really need to i can cast to a screen, even got a couple usb-C male to hdmi male cables.

    i'm always going to need some kind of non-pocket computer, and the desktops are so much cheaper. and modifiable! my last one lived 16 years as the main PC. I tend to ship of theseus them.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    i much prefered writing notes on paper but i'd cry if i had to write an essay by hand, i hope those students aren't torturing themselves this way

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Every English class at my uni has huge, like 10-page essays (can you even call them essays at this point?) where we cover scientific developments in our field we discovered in that month.

    Everything is handwritten because "there were students who used LLMs, and they need to be sure at least some effort is put into admission". Like, just to spite on LLM users and all of us just in case.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    o.o holy shit- i mean that's a valid move, using AI for a handwritten piece sounds like a pain in the ass, but so does just writing 10 pages by hand, AI or not!

    i'm glad i got through my higher education marginally before the AI boom hit (i graduated 3 years ago). i only had Turnitin yell "PLAGIARISM???" at me when i used a common phrase that another student used at some point somewhere (think - "The research suggests...", or sometimes even the page numbers), good times good times

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    LLM boom has certainly affected education - complicating things for honest students and at the same time empowering cheaters.

    Having studied both pre- and post-boom, I can say the amount of times I was offered to use LLMs overall and ChatGPT/Gemini specifically to generate answers as a student has gone through the roof.

    And as a soon-to-be educator (I currently pursue PhD and aspire to teach others), I collect ideas on how to combat it, as it tanks the quality of education so much it may as well be nonexistent. But in any case, students that genuinely complete their assignments should not be harshly affected.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    my best idea would be going old school with in person written & oral testing, since clearly nothing digital is of any help anymore. or perhaps require multiple digital WIP versions to be submitted? would also be getting the students into a good habit of making backups of their work. or maybe every essay should come with a director's commentary (a more loose style reflective essay on the research and work done)

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    These are all good options! In person testing is certainly on my list, and I like the ideas with WIP versions (especially for larger submissions) and commentary.

    I also think of more presentation format submissions where I could ask quick questions to see if the person actually understands what is written. Sort of a small defense.

    On technical means, I welcome different forms of AI poisoning in tasks: these don't always work, but they can catch the least attentive.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    When I was in undergrad I had to write lots of essays by hand. I’d say about every other course in one of my majors had midterms and finals that were a single question essay to be completed in class during the testing period. I figured that was pretty typical.

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  • [–] 155 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    That’s not what being a Luddite means

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    What a pedantic (and incorrect) take. Luddite can absolutely mean a person who purposefully avoids technology.

    I’m sure I’ll get downvoted, but words can have multiple meanings and take on new meanings over time. Luddite is one of them. This article used it properly.

    And anyone who disagrees with me can kiss my linguistics-degree-holding ass.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    "Modern day" Luddite. It's not just using the word isolated! Tittle clearly mixes the meaning with the historical reference. Plus, the one being pedantic were you.. But thanks anyway for pointing out the word has two definitions.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    In your defense, the statement specifies "modern-day Luddite" which compares it to the historical Luddite bands and excludes the first meaning of the Oxford dictionary.

    Also, avoiding is not the same as opposing.

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  • [–] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    "He goes to the library with nothing but his “pen and paper,” and stays there until his essay is done. “Then I’m free to doomscroll Instagram on my phone without any guilt"

    1. He doesn't seem very opposed to technology if he just goes straight home and doomscrolls

    2. Are laptops really new technology to this kid if they've existed for his entire life?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    $5 says it's the "what's a computer" kid from like a decade ago

    "'laptop'? it's like a foldable but with half a screen??? and why is this keyboard broken, all the keys move?? how do I get an overwatch skin for it?? this is awful"

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I really like being able to Ctrl+F through my book.
    But there just seems to be some kind of feel to flipping a page that makes me feel more focussed.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Engagement. I'm a teacher and using all of your senses to look for information makes you remember that said piece of information more.

    It's funny, most studying comes down to that... And motivation, which is also something you have if you prefer books over laptop.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Your book does one single thing, you cannot be distracted by other functions.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Plus the tactile feel and responsiveness of a book us unmatched, it's lightweight and portable, you will never run out of battery, and flipping back and forth through pages is much more intuitive that jumping between bookmarks in pdfs and ebooks, the only thing that comes close is e ink readers but those have their own tradeoffs

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's only going to affect me if I am reading something particularly boring and don't really want to read it.
    But if that were the case, I wouldn't be reading it in the first place.

    I don't feel the need to rid myself of distractions, because when I am not in the mood to read a book, I don't read it.

    Also, this "distracted by functionality" logic is what parents seem to use to get rid of stuff with a screen.
    I can say for sure, that people being loud in another room is a much bigger distraction.
    If your OS is distracting you, you have installed the wrong one.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I think it's the mental work of "I don't have to do anything, it will find it for me" and "I have to find it myself" and I think it puts you in a state mentally and keeps you there. You don't have to disengage because there's something else doing the work.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago

    I do that but its actually because I just don't own a laptop and don't want to buy one

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    Went to school before the late '90s: Write everything in paper notebooks & exam books.

    Went to school between late '90s-2020s: Tap it all into a computer. Learn nothing.

    Went to school late 2020s on: Write in paper notebooks, in between scavenging the ruins for food.

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    Good for these kids. It's a wise move!

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Not using a laptop because it can distract you is like shrinking your stomach because you can't stop eating. Oh, wait...

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Stop eating? As if I would grasp the concept of moderation.

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  • [–] -3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Restricting your diet and skipping meals is the best way to lose weight.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Is now a good time to complain about that one guy who brings a $3000 gaming laptop to the computer science lectures because expensive stuff makes him a good programmer and proceeds to distract people accross the room by the sheer volume of his fan spinning?

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    I really like this idea, but its difficult. when I used to attend uni it was more feasible but in 2025 all of my courses require online submissions, discussion, and materials. I can rent a laptop from the library, but only for 4 hours at a time. Of course there are desktops, but realistically if you want work from home you need a computer/tablet. That said I still just borrow my partners and haven't bothered to buy one.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    i think its mostly AI that was the problem. we all used notebooks even last decade, you just cant concentrate with a laptop writing notes.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    I got myself a remarkable after seeing a colleague use one and thinking they were cool. An astonishing price for what is essentially a kindle that you can write on, but that is essentially the entirety of its functionality right there. No web browser, no ebook integration, no keyboard, just a thing for scribbling notes with a big battery life. No distractions.

    As such, it's completely ideal for my work diary, meeting notes, D'n'D notes, maps for games that I've been playing, random scribbles, all sorts. Quite a lot lighter than the thousands of sheets of paper that would be required otherwise. Also not as rude as popping open a laptop when you're meeting someone - they can see you're just making notes and writing to-dos.

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  • While browsing Insta and Tiktok on a cellphone in class. That word does not mean what you think it means.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I just have a hard time picturing things being so different from when I left academia only a couple of years ago. Everybody still had pen and paper notebooks

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    We must stop using devices that use Abominable Intelligence.

    They will be our doom

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