You know what else does a lot of damage?
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Well it's definitely not "new-age", but apparently the worth "empathy" only entered the English language in 1908.
So I'm gonna pretend like it's 1776 like he always wanted me to do and not have empathy for him 😆
We wouldn't happen to have the link/recording/article that this came from for context, would we? Not to sound like a "SOURCE?!?!?" troll, but I'm curious.
Lot of people seem to agree with him, judging from the responses to his death.
Someone’s told me elsewhere that these quotes have been taken out of context. I said he should have been more careful with words.
We already knew his views were wild and insane but killing him for it was a bad idea and cruel to his family and friends (I'm guessing he had some). Metaphorically jumping up and down on his grave is just bad taste. The best thing we can do is consign him to an obscure footnote in history and desist from publishing his views for him.
edit to the replies - Holy hell this place has turned into reddit on a bad.
If this is such a bad thing, then why did Ben Shapiro cancel his speaking arrangements today? All these grifters are freaking out because they never expected to face a consequence for anything they said or did
Name a more iconic duo than liberals and pearl-clutching. I'll wait.
I'm honoring Charlie's memory, it's what he would've wanted.
Nope, this is a message to the MAGA Nazis. Turn it up LOUD.
In another context maybe, but linking it with his death doesn't help the cause.
Nah, violence is the only language they understand. These fascist have killed tons of innocent people, and Kirk was one of the propagandists that helped enable it. This was self-defense, and the only way to stop them from attacking us is to show that we will defend ourselves.
You're the kind of person that will walk right into the gas chambers without a peep, and make it easy for the Nazis. They're just doing their job, after all.
A lot of us aren't taking it so easy. We're going down swinging.
You seem real upset that a white christo-nationalist terrorism advocate is dead. Seems like you're telling on yourself, fashy
Nope. The guy was clearly a shit. Just hope people rise above it and never speak about him again, there are better things to waste our effort on.
I'll gleefully keep talking about a nazi getting his throat blown out by a 5.56 while he was actively blaming LGBT and black people for school shootings, deal with it. You want me stop, call up Trump and have him send ICE to my door.
The only reliable way to deal with fascists is to kill them. They will keep killing us until we force them to stop.
Kirk might not have been out there shooting people in the street like a common beat cop, but he built a career out of stochastic terrorism. He suffered the same fate that he advocated for innocent people.
What a self-report on being a psychopath lol
The issue I have is not so much that, but how much of the American population it seems to have resonated with.
The USA is literally the mass shooter of the world, and was built on Native lives and African suffering, of course being inhumane resonates with them, lol. Empathy and moral accountability must be discarded for Americans to get what they want!
It’s what the country was created for. The royal “tyranny” was the King refusing to overrule the elected government when they made a law against genociding the native Americans.
Yeah, exactly what I thought. Just basing an opinion off a social deficiency.
"It's stupid because I can't do it."
Don't worry, we're not sending any.
What a horrible thing to say. It's literally what makes us human.
You know what else does a lot of damage? A bullet in the neck.
Empathy doesn't kill people, bullets sure as fuck do though.
I try to have empathy for every human being, in every possible circumstance, but it's hard to care sometimes... but especially when you tell me not to care, and that caring is weak. Today I will be strong, like he would have wanted.
Why the hell do I keep double posting? probably the gin and sprites. To hell with it, a shot for Charlie!
Charlie's probably had enough shots for today...
People should be treated the way they treat others. MAGAs cry for the empathy and respect they deny to everyone else.
I really respect him for he did in Utah. Just a steadfast Defender of "people getting shot in public".
I'm so happy he's gone. One less poisonous hate spreader to worry about, even though I'm sure his replacements are anxiously waiting to be paid to spread more hate
The full quote is "I can't stand the word empathy. I think empathy is a made up new age term and it does a lot of damage. Sympathy is a better word, because empathy means you are actually feeling what another person felt, and no one can feel what another person feels."
He was talking about how the democrats use language
I disagreed with the guy on a great many things, but cutting his clips out of context like this is pathetic.
Thank you for posting the full quote and the context.
Not a fan of the guy, yet I don't celebrate his murder. And regarding the full quote, he's misguided imo.
The way I understand the words...
"Empathy" - Able to approximately feel what someone else is feeling, like absorbing the mood of the room. Their emotions become your emotions.
"Sympathy" - Able to 'put yourself in their shoes'. Understand someone's feelings; at the same time, very aware of your own, which can be different.
Empathy can be used for evil ends, yet it itself is not a bad thing to have.
Most MAGA members are sociopaths. Lack of empathy is a key feature of sociopaths. He said what he said and meant it.
This explains why he and other MAGAts dont think empathy is real and confuse it with sympathy ... it's part of being a sociopath.
We clearly have problems with people not giving a fuck about most other people, that's easy to see. But I wouldn't go label a huge swath of the US population that way. Realistically, we're looking at something like 1-4 percent of the population. Granted, that's still millions of people, but nowhere near the majority.
What may be the bigger problem is that our society selects for people with sociopathic tendencies in high office, police, and powerful positions in companies. IMO, a kind of modeling effect is more likely how this impacts everyone else.
I am so tired of people using this half-quote to attack his character. He was making a symmantic argument, not claiming that empathy is bad. This meme will be used by maga to show that the left is irrational and stupid, and in this case they'll be right.
The English term “empathy,” in fact, was coined only in 1908. English-speaking psychologists needed translations of the German scientific terms appearing in the new discipline of experimental psychology. By around 1913, “empathy” became the term of choice for the German Einfühlung, which literally means “in-feeling.” Empathy captured the ability to project one’s own inner strivings, movements, and feelings into the shapes of objects. In the early twentieth century, then, empathy was quintessentially an aesthetic impulse.
Wild that we didn't need a word for it before.
In the context of the quote, he clearly didn't know what empathy means. He said he prefers the term "sympathy" (likely not really knowing the distinct definition of either one).
He was actually supporting empathy in the full context, saying that Democrats were running astray from Bill Clinton's messaging utilizing empathy/sympathy.
No, he didn't. You can attempt to sanewash your idol all you want, the words are pretty clear.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-charlie-kirk-once-001900786.html
The “prefer sympathy” part is true. I’m not going to listen go his podcast to get the full context though. Everything else he said tells me he didn’t care for sympathy either.
Words are only as good as their definitions. If he's operating with different definitions, then the meaning is, in fact, not clear.


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