This aged like milk. :(

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[–] 201 points 1 year ago (46 children)

We dont yet know if the assassin is from the left

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  • [–] 81 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It won't matter as they will accuse the left regardless.

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  • [–] 51 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Joe Biden did it on his bicycle.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    "Will"!? Our mad orange king, as well as the other MAGA freaks are already blaming everyone left of "the poors should be hunted for sport" for this. Right now. Regardless of the killer's beliefs, it so obviously wasn't a coordinated campaign approved of by every non-conservative...

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I have wondered from time to time where the militant left is.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lol, it's gonna be a disgruntled former magat

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, this is as dumb as Trump calling it political violence.

    Could be any number of people he fucked over or stiffed. These types if people (sociopaths) don't care about anyone but themselves.

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Could be Kirk's ex-boyfriend for all we know.

    Looking at the rate they get caught fucking other men, most homophobes seem to be self-hating bisexuals.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    oh so NOW the Bis exist when you need someone to throw under the bus for a shooting.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, no. Kirk was straight. I can tell. Some are bisexuals, especially the ones that think being gay is a choice. There was nothing remotely gay about the man in any way. He believed everything he said. And it was probably a desnat or something.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (25 children)

    Right? Most of the left don't even know who this dude is. It could be a business partner for all we know.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Interesting point made in live updating CNN Manhunt article:

    Here’s why authorities may be having a hard time finding Kirk’s killer, according to a chief CNN analyst From CNN’s Tori B. Powell

    A manhunt is still underway as law enforcement tries to find the person who fired the shot that killed conservative activist Charlie Kirk today.

    According to CNN Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst John Miller, the shooter’s planning, skill and execution may be complicating the search.

    He told CNN’s Kaitlan Collins that snipers have been studied closely by the government and they typically are people who are “methodical and patient, self-reliant.”

    “This is the kind of person who would have planned to get in silently, try to be invisible, take this shot, accomplish the mission, take the gun with them and leave little evidence behind which is why I think they’re having a very difficult time getting started on this.”

    Officials said earlier today that they believe the shooter fired one shot at one person and that it was a targeted incident.

    The single fired shot shows that “the person is not new to shooting,” Miller said, which ultimately could help officials get to the bottom of the investigation.

    “This is someone who knew exactly what they were doing and is probably known to others, and this may be working to the advantage of law enforcement,” Miller said. “As someone who has a long history in shooting, this wasn’t an amateur.”

    So, dude takes his position, fires a single shot for the kill, and then disappears without a trace. Pretty impressive.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Could be a paid for dude, which seems most likely judging by the description. Not many snipers in the general populace, I'm guessing. Ex-military maybe?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Do they know how far away they were? What rooftop they were on? I'm hoping they get away with it, but I'm not sure it would even have to be monetarily motivated. Maybe one of their friends or family members were killed as a result of his bullshit? There's plenty of reasons to kill a shitstain like Kirk. Plenty of people, especially on this website, would've done the same if they had the ability.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    CBS news at dinnertime didn't have details on where but from witness accounts it was at least 100yds, 'cause people said the shot wasn't that loud. That shit stays loud for 100ft easy. I'm sure law enforcement knows what rifle fired the round by now and it wouldn't surprise me if they are shitting their pants because it's some weird fucker like 6.5 creedmoor

    edit: I guess if someone pulled an Oswald and was inside the Book Depository that would muffle the sound heard by people near the victim. However, Utah is pretty fucking big without many tall buildings.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Could've also had a suppressor. They don't eliminate all the sound like the movies, but make a huge difference with rifles.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I'm bored. What do you think happened?

    I think long-range hunting rifle with a scope. .270 maybe?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I have no clue other than the witness reports. And the one close up video. But seeing that shockwave hit his shirt, tells me it was something very very fast.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    I don't want to watch it again, but it did seem real real fast huh? Lots of energy in the shot, not like an infantry weapon. Way more hunting rifle than AR .223.

    It was just instant.

    e: a fuckit, sleep

    edit again the next morning: The cops think they have the weapon and the news called it "a high powered rifle" so yeah, probably just an AR

    ope: it was a rifle rifle. They are reporting Mauser in .30 caliber so... M98 in .308? Something like that anyway. Mauser also makes a very nice line of modern hunting rifles and you can get those in 30-06

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    People on Lemmy are more likely to know but yes, I tried explaining to my dad how much of a shitstain this guy was. His take away from TV News was that this guy was somehow not MAGA and therefore it's sad. Like, no, he very much is MAGA, lol

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Don't know who Charlie Kirk is? He runs so many ads on youtube with tpusa, that I'm surprised that there's people that don't know he exists atp.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I use ublock to watch youtube.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Me too, and in the last day or so, ads have started playing now and again. Usually only one ad, with a skip button that appears after a bit. I wonder if something has changed?

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  • [–] 70 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This sucks for Kirk's family. They should release the Epstein files.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    those kids will totally get bullied by other kids showing them the video of their dad dying. that's all I really feel bad about today.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yea. About the only thing sad about this.

    Like, they are still kids, Charlie might have been a bigoted fascist but that's far too complicated for children to fully understand; to them, he was just "Dad".

    It is truly unfortunate for them they had the ill fate of being born to such a horrible person, but that horrid person was spreading rhetoric which has resulted in countless other children losing parents themselves. All I can hope is that those kids grow up to understand this.

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  • [–] 142 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    I mean, just going off the last two people who shot at trump in the last year...

    There's no reason to say this wasn't MAGA yet.

    It could be someone who thought Kirk wasn't going far enough because he still wanted to talk

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    I am fully convinced the trump thing was a false flag operation. They specifically selected a mentally unhealthy kid who was a bad shot. Trump wasn't grazed by the bullet. The movements of his security and the press to set up that photo op paints it's own damning picture.

    Charlie is just to much a fucking idiot to adhere to the same security protocols as literally every conservative event.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    The reason that I just can't take that idea seriously is that, well, there at least was someone actually shooting, so if it was faked the way they would have to do it would be along the lines of "shooting at Trump, but intentionally missing". That would be a fairly dangerous move though, if your fake shooter's aim was off, there's the risk that it accidentally becomes a real assassination instead, and that level of risk feels out of character for Trump.

    Further, were it staged, I'd expect it to be designed to advantage Trump as much as possible. Surely the "shooter" would be revealed to be one of the many demographics he riles people up against, or at least an outspoken democrat, and surely they would have played it up as much as possible throughout the election instead of having it done well before the final weeks and letting it get buried by the news cycle before people actually went to the polls.

    He also surrounds himself with loyal but often incompetent people, and is an old man prone to saying embarrassing things. Would he really have been able to keep such a fake a secret even for this long?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    To be fair, he surrounds himself with fascists hungry for power. Just because he probably didn't set it up doesn't mean that one of his "buddies" didn't.

    Not saying it was Vance, but for the sake of argument, in shoes of that caliber it's a win win. Trump gets killed? Well lookie here, we got a martyr and a new replacement ready for the throne. Trump doesn't get killed? They get a photo shoot that sways public perception.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    That's literally how Hitler kept his cronies in check. Having them all fighing for power underneath him.

    Everyone assuming trump dying was a bug not a feature doesn't simply relate to the cuthroats like trump and his ilk.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Idk at least for the second term of this administration, Trump being the figurehead is an integral part. Cult of personality is necessary in a fascist/dictatorial rise to power. I honestly don’t think Vance would be able to implement the same policy. However, now with the precedent being set he could

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    But trump dying was a feature not a bug my dude. The fascist movement in the USA is clearly not confined to MAGA; as evidenced by the capitulation of big tech.

    I'm still convinced Trump was a means to an end. The GOP's owners want him gone. He's a fucking moron and they're all just sitting waiting wishing for him to die.

    Look at what Fox is doing to Charlies death. They will 100% weaponize trumps death regardless of the cause.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Charlie is just to much a fucking idiot

    *was


    Anyway, IMO the main flaw in your "false flag operation" idea is that they'd want a good shot to make sure he wasn't hit by accident. Having a bad shot point a gun at him would've been a Hell of a risk.

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    Fair point. But trump dying was a feature not a bug my dude. The fascist movement in the USA is clearly not confined to MAGA; as evidenced by the capitulation of big tech.

    I'm still convinced Trump was a means to an end. The GOP's owners want him gone. He's a fucking moron and they're all just sitting waiting wishing for him to die.

    Look at what Fox is doing to Charlies death. They will 100% weaponize trumps death regardless of the cause.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    The movements of his security and the press to set up that photo op paints it’s own damning picture.

    I saw the video of them dragging Kirk out to and the difference between that and how they acted after Trump was "shot" is crazy....

    Like, this is what you expected out of any shooting. trump they legitimately seemed to not really give a shit.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I am fully convinced the trump thing was a false flag operation.

    A lot of people are saying it. Smart people. I mean it looks like Trump liked the guy and is angry about the hit, and he's pretty truthful most of the time.

    Look, I don't know shit about sqibs, body doubles or false flag stuff, and think it's a lone wolf sort of thing.

    It's just that a lot of smart people are having all sorts of questions.

    I say we all do our own research to figure out what really happened.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    false flag stuff, and think it's a lone wolf sort of thing.

    A lone wolf that was manipulated by the reality presented to him, fed motivation, and presented with an artificial opportunity. Just one of a short list of individuals being actively "groomed" into false flag shooters.

    As far as this kirk shooting, AFAIK they still haven't found the guy? They've already arrested and released 2+ people on this.

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  • [–] 65 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Is there any confirmation that the shooter was in any way a leftist, or motivated by left wing ideals? From all I know, it was some random guy who could have been a right winger who thinks Trump is centralizing the government which goes against his Ayn Rand ideology; or it could just be a loonie.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    For all we know, it could have been an incompetent hunter two kilometres away.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Sir this happened in Utah they use God's own units.

    Since it was a rifle we use football fields. 22 football fields away.

    American football of course. We have no idea how many football pitches this might have been. 3? 200? There's just no way to know.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No. The shooter was a CIA operative sent by Bill Clinton to distract from the Epstein files. It will turn out that the "suspect" is a young black Arab Mexican man from China sent here to start a lgbtq+ revolution.

    This is a false flag to further supress any non white Christian men.

    Also I don't know who the shooter is. But I do know we were together all day in Florida at the time.

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    [–] 42 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    My money is on a Trump/CIA plot to distract from the Epstein files.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I would say it's not even to distract as much as to silence him. If you watch the event, he was talking about it 20 minutes before being shot. He was saying that other republicans needed to answer for blocking the release of said files. The fact he wasn't letting go of the epstein case and he has one of the biggest followings of young republicans, he was a threat to whoever doesn't want that discussed. It's possible it could have been something else, but who knows?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I swear, Trump could order the military to murder every single person left on the political spectrum of Hitler tomorrow, and people would be like "Stop trying to distract from the Epstein files".

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean, we have a pedophile in the white house, and an open cover up of it. A normal person would be on trial right now, and/or already in prison. We should be making a big deal about it.

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Trump ordered all flags at half mast until Sunday. If I had a flagpole, I'd be racing to add an extension on to it, even if it looked like shit, to raise it higher.

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