Author: points out how Bluesky is not decentralized.

Also Author: only points out how people are arguing about how Bluesky is decentralized.

Author: Mission Accomplished.

Centralization on its own is not a deal breaker. Wikipedia is centralized.

Corporate/business ownership on it's own is not a deal breaker. There are many business mastodon instances: https://mastodonservers.net/servers/business

It's the combination that is a deal breaker. Corporate AND centralized. We've seen this movie before. It's a predictably boring story that ends with enshittification.

There is no argument. It's centralised.

I will continue to point it out as long as people keep recommending it. Its not a minor complaint or a small point of disagreement, its a complete deal breaker that makes the platform worthless to invest any time in. No matter how much time passes it will always be a shit platform as long as its centralized.

Also bluesky isnt part of the fediverse so this doesnt even really belong in here...

No.

The distinction is important, and every useful idiot pivoting from one corporate platform to another should be educated on their mistake.

If you don't want to hear any criticism, stop bringing up pseudo-decentralized corpo VC-backed Twitter 2.0

:3

More importantly it's for-profit capitalist crap? With ethical and moral considerations, there is no reason to push this when there are alternatives with much better starting blocks.

I didn't even realize that decentralization was a selling point for Bluesky. I genuinely thought it was just Twitter but not run by Elon Musk

I want all my greens on Mastodon instead of Bluesky.

I haven't seen much arguing, it is unquestionably centralized and for profit. There truly is nothing unique about it.

I'm not an expert with the AT protocol but it really seems like what Dorsey and co have made is a super complicated protocol that (under specific conditions that cannot exist in the real world), has the potential to be federated in a meaningful way. That way they can steal all the talking points of the fediverse and muddy the meaning of words.

There are also a lot of people on Fedi who will seek out threads like these to explain how line 2532 of the AT protocol handbook explains how having 100% of users on a single server is actually decentralized but I'm sure they're all authentic accounts.

Since we have Mississippi as an example... Why not just look how it turned out for the people there? Do or don't they have a communications platform now that connects them to a network of other people? I feel that's way more helpful than discussing what should be discussed, or talking about theoretical details.

can anyone recommend a good read into the actual developments happening with ATproto as of late? i've seen a lot of insisting lately that things are changing/have changed but no one's saying what exactly is or has changed

bluesky is technically decentralized, but the way it does it makes self-hosting all but impossible due to storage requirements. because of that, it really isnt. its like how a lot of ai models are 'open-source' even though the training data isnt available and the ai is still effectively a black box. it isnt decentralized unless anyone can make an instance, just like how it isnt open-source unless you have access to everything that makes it work (yes, by this definition chromium and android aren't truly open-source, and I stand by that).

Thats the article? What? Its just a big nothing burger

Cmo, what so bad with furrysky...

BLUE! I mean Bluesky 😰.

I have no idea what this means or what Bluesky is, so yes. I'm happy to continue not knowing or talking about it.

Who cares. It's inherently a shit platform like Twitter. No one cares about your pithy half sentences.

there is blacksky and others which are making app for atprotocol soo its decentralized