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[–] 199 points 1 year ago (46 children)

> be me

> 20 years old when Minecraft Alpha is released, buy it in Alpha to get all future updates

> feel like playing recently

> sold to Microsoft and they deleted my account

I hate you Microsoft

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  • [–] 45 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Exact same thing happened to me. Still salty and refuse to play it again

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    Agreed. And pirating it is now more difficult because of the shitty garbage movie that made a billion dollars. Plus I don’t know that I can play with my partner on a pirated copy.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You can play with your partner on a pirated copy if you connect to a server without authentication or host one yourself

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    If the game has you host servers yourself, you can pretty much always use a pirated copy. If they could detect the piracy on your computer anyway they would already be blocking you from playing. If you connect to a server they host then they could have extra verification, but if you're hosting it then it's not going to be anything that isn't already being checked to prevent piracy.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    I was always wondering about this. Also had an alpha account, assumed it ended after the sale. Sad to see it confirmed 😔

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (21 children)

    They had a long time period where you could port your mojang account to a Microsoft account, but eventually they shutdown the mojang authentication.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Yeah there was at least a year where you could port it, I got it in alpha too and still play every so often

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Shouldn't have been done this way. They could have migrated everyone's accounts. They did this so people would miss the emails or completely forget. So they'd have to buy it again if they came back to play it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I kinda doubt it. That is such an insignificant amount of money to Microsoft, I doubt they'd do it for that reason. It probably has something to do with conforming to regulations or something random.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What regulations say you have to basically steal someone's access to a game they paid for?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    They didn't steal anything. They gave you 3 years to upgrade for free.

    If you didn't do it in time then that is on you. They send reminders in every way they could.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    "upgrade"

    And they are taking it away. If they didn't have the EULA which I believe they had to change to make it possible (or they changed it for another reason) it would be theft.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    You know how many people change their email addresses or stop using them in a few years time?

    This is stealing, people paid for a product and it was removed from their access. I don't know how much clearer that can be.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    There are many regulations in place that have to do with privacy, terms of service etc. When you made a Mojang account you never agreed to Microsoft's terms of service. And I wouldn't be surprised if there were other issues as well related to just merging accounts from different companies, it's not that simple.

    If I remember correctly I think Luke and Linus (from LTT) talked about how they had a lot of issues with migrating forum subscribers to Floatplane and how it wasn't really possible to do it without direct user consent or something. I don't really remember the details, it was many years ago.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (10 children)

    Really? The total time period for migrating the account was something like 3 years, they sent emails reminding you about it, and mentioned it in the launcher. I don't know what else they could have been expected to do?

    They couldn't just "migrate everyone's accounts" because there's no obvious way to do that. Simple example: Let's say you bought Minecraft for yourself and your two kids so you could play together. These were little kids, and Mojang accounts aren't uniquely tied to an email address so they all have the same email address. MS accounts use email address as username. Without asking the user, which of the three accounts gets tied to that email address, and what happens to the other two? What about cases where the Mojang account is for an email address that doesn't have a Microsoft account? What if it already does, but the email address on the Mojang account is an older email they no longer use or even have access to and just never bothered to update because the email on your Mojang account was only really relevant to recover your password? Etc, etc, etc.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I think forcing people to have a Microsoft account is the underlying issue there. I see no reason why they couldn't have allowed users to have an ms account and then just have the Minecraft account be a link to either a ms account or a standard mojang account.

    I think they just wanted more personal data and ms accounts to gloat about to shareholders.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    As soon as MS bought it, I think everyone could see it moving to an MS account as an obvious next step. MS had been building themselves up as a gaming brand for years and running two separate authentication services is going to seem like an unnecessary cost to their bean counters.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Wouldn't that still be one auth service that looks at one of two db tables though?

    I didn't really see it coming because I didn't even realize there were Microsoft accounts until shortly before the migration. When I was then forced to migrate I found out that I apparently alrealready had a Microsoft account that I luckily had the password written down for, all in all a horrible experience in my opinion.

    Also the fact that you need to mod the game to avoid telemetry nowadays is just sad.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I didn’t really see it coming because I didn’t even realize there were Microsoft accounts until shortly before the migration.

    Really? MS had consolidated their online services into one login/authentication system years beforehand. Hotmail, Outlook,com, XBOX Live, etc all use the same accounts. It's why I expected they would do that, they'd done it with everything else they owned.

    You have to mod everything to avoid telemetry nowadays. I'd be surprised if my dishwasher wasn't quietly sending data to Samsung at this point.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I never had accounts for any of those.

    Also not many but some few games have opt in telemetry. Now that I think about it I'm unsure how many games that I play have telemetry but they mostly are offline games (like Minecraft can be) which shouldn't have telemetry. I should really check some of them.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    What? No it's not hard to do, all they had to do was port the info into a DB and sit on it...they could have used the same DB that they use for the accounts now. Then the second someone returns it kicks off the same process that happened when this whole migration thing began long time ago. I've handled plenty of account migrations throughout my time and they're not rocket science.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    I’ve handled plenty of account migrations throughout my time and they’re not rocket science.

    ...and all those account migration systems are kept running in perpetuity just in case someone with an account last used in June 2009 happens to try logging in sometime in 2030? That feels like a lot of legacy systems to maintain for very little benefit.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You move the account...and reset the password. People want access they go through proving they have access to the email. You all are acting like it's hard to move info from one DB to another.

    They did it for greed, stop defending M$

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    That is not how databases work.

    It would cause all kinds of issues. And then they would get tons of criticism by people like you that it doesn't work perfectly.

    Windows has enough backwards compatibility they have to work around. Lets not add games to it as well.

    No, 3 years of free upgrades is more than enough.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Lol that's exactly how DBs work. The hell do you think they keep account info? On randys note pad?

    People paid for the game. Period. This is like someone buying a physical copy and because they didn't go and get the new copy the old one stops working.

    Some simps for Microsoft here apparently.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I might just spam these comments, but, check out Vintage Story.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Vintage Story is just a better game all around and I will die on this hill. It's a very pretty game too

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I have never played Minecraft so I would not actually know, but yeah, everyone who has played both says it's better. Now if only we could get a Distant Horizons feature on this bad boy....

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Same thing happened to me. Still pissed off

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    sold to Microsoft and they deleted my account

    Yeah, there was a period where you had to join your Mojang account to a MS account, then they eventually shut down the Mojang auth entirely. If you didn't change over during that time you're SOL. It was announced it was coming over a year before they actually did it.

    I go back and play Minecraft every now and then, usually heavily modded. Been playing through the Material Energy 5 modpack for the past little bit.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm still stuck bouncing between 1.7.10 and 1.12.2, the former of which came out over a decade ago (oof) but there's just so many quality packs from that era (GT:NH comes to mind but I also really dig stuff with RotaryCraft). I do more factorio and satisfactory these days but wow do some of those packs take a solid amount of time to get through.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Some of my favorite mods and packs are from the 1.7.10 era. I once put together a private server pack than included AE2, most of Reika's mods (Rotarycraft, Reactorcraft, Electricraft and Chromaticraft), and assortment of magic mods and some lesser known or lesser used mods. Admittedly some of the latter were really buggy (for example Essentialcraft), but were usually weird or fun enough to keep despite that.

    Once upon a time I played on a Harry Potter themed modded server ran by Megachunk. I started out with a little house in a field with a fenced in yard, the usual sort of thing. People kept finding ways to steal from me or grief me. So I kept improving security. By the end of the server, no one but me and three others could enter my inner sanctum without being slaughtered, and even if they could enter they couldn't interact with anything. Everything was covered by overlapping Pneumaticraft Security Stations encased in Thaumcraft Warded Glass. The area was utterly covered in Witchery Sentinel fetishes loaded with spectres in the spirit world, and those in turn were protected by Security Stations and all of it encased in Warded Glass to keep those from getting messed with. If you entered my base, you died, GTFO. Turned out spectres could also kill players in creative mode, so that included staff.

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  • [–] 58 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Best Father’s Day story I’ve read so far. I really hope it’s true. But since this is EXACTLY the kinda thing I would do for my boy so I’m sure it is.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    This story reminds me of some friends of mine who are super adamant that you shouldn't tell your kids Santa Claus is real, because when they grow up and find out you deceived them how can they EVER trust you again? My only reaction was that humans aren't robots, we operate on fuzzy logic, and empirically we know we somehow trust our parents anyway, logical contradictions notwithstanding. Their response was just an argument-stopping, "But do we tho?" Whatever dudes, I know I do. Anyway, your dad did an awesome thing, and it's also awesome that Minecraft has been around long enough for people to grow up and have fond childhood memories of it.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Dude we can differentiate between someone lying to us to deceive us or someone 'lying' to us to make us happy/help us. At least in retrospect.

    Sure maybe the kid in this post can't trust his dad anymore. But he can 100% trust that his dad always wanted the best for him.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    people who try to live 100% deception-free are deceiving themselves

    it's more important to teach kids when to be truthful (when they're young, that's almost always) and when to be politely or justly deceptive (when the next door neighbor asks if you liked her cookies you say "yes" even if they sucked, and when a police officer asks if you've seen the kid in this photo you say "nah, I don't know him")

    "mom lied about Santa!" eventually gives way to "I'm glad my mom created Christmas magic for me when I was a kid, so that I could enjoy child-like wonder and traditional holiday mythology"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I get what you are saying but at the same time I can relate to your friends as well. It's definitely not a hill I would die on and I wouldn't judge a parent who made a different choice than me, I don't think there is a objectively correct answer here. I also don't think it's a huge deal either way.

    I think OP's story would have hit a little different if the Dad had been the one to tell the son about portals to the Ether in the first place.

    I'm sure everyone reacts to the information differently and it probably depends on how young you are when you find out, what kind of relationship you have with your parents, and how sensitive you are about honesty.

    It wasn't a big deal for you when you learned the truth and I'm glad. I'd be willing to bet your friends had different experiences though. I think they are both valid.

    It wasn't a huge deal for me, but I remember how I felt when I found out and it isn't a happy memory. I didn't exactly never trust my mom again, but I did learn that no one in life- no matter how much you trust them- will ever be 100% with you all the time. That's part of growing up and every one has to learn it sooner or later, but it just seemed like it was unnecessary. I was also 5 years old when I figured it out, I'm not sure if this is particularly early or not but I remember it was kind of a bummer.

    I'm sure from my moms pov she had fond memories of believing in Santa and wanted the same thing for her kids. I don't' ever remember thinking it was like a malicious thing, but I also couldn't help but notice how it was used to keep my younger brother and sister in line. "If you don't behave Santa won't come this year" type thing, so at least part of it was feeling manipulated.

    TLDR: don't judge your friends too harshly. They probably have reasons to feel like they do.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    My dad is a living trash human.

    I hope I can be remembered fondly, like this dad, by my kids.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    My dad is a dead trash human. I was kinda sad when he died, but life has been so much easier since.

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    [–] 56 points 1 year ago

    > be me
    > hate greentext posts
    > encounter one that must be upvoted

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Very wholesome, my dad would do something like that. I miss him every day.

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Fake: It's a feel good story posted on 4chan

    Gay: it made me cry

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Very very wholesome, thank you.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I don't understand why the dad would lie about the mod. Wouldn't that be a great thing to teach your son?

    I never played Minecraft, but I was a teen when the original Quake came out, and I LOVED exploring all the different mods.

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    Well, mine always said I was stupid for wasting my time with video games.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why would something fun that you like be a waste of time? Why do you hate yourself?

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    I have a lot of cherished memories of playing video games with my kids. We've bonded over shared moments as well as over mutual favorites and their characters and storylines and worlds and art styles. I've shared my love of programming with my kids initially by helping them make their own little video games, and they now have the basics of a very useful skill.

    I'd say like just about anything, video games can be good or bad depending on how they're used and engaged with.

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    [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Rest in peace.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    "sometimes?"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I don't get it? The portal is in the base game?

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That's a nether portal, we're talking about an Ether portal. ;)

    I played a mod that introduced portals between arbitrary locations, I'm guessing that's what the dad installed.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Does the Ether mod just put you to sleep lmao -- I prefer the Aether mods

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    The Aether mod was a comprehensive addition to the base game that added a plane much like the nether. You made an aether portal with glowstone and water. It was magical - sky islands, lots of unique enemies, dungeons with bosses, new gear. One of the best Minecraft mods for sure.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Cool story. I might believe one could learn to make a "portal mod" in a day, but not a new dimension and worldgen.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Poster is saying his dad installed the mod, not that he made it

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Thanks, I see that now. While reading it, I think the story lost credibility for me around "time mechanic" (which likely was Dad's white lie), and I presumed it was another one of those posts that takes a hard-left into fantasy land... also didn't help that my son watches and believes the plethora of minecraft hoax videos, and that I knew about the water portal hoax, but not the mod... also curse of knowledge painted the ambiguous "learning mods" as a development effort, not learning how to install/use.

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  • [+] -10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Anon misses his dad, but only sometimes. Hmm.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago

    This is OK. You don't have to weep bitterly 100% of the time for the rest of your life. It gets easier over the years because the hardest of the pain happens less frequently. People mourn how they mourn. Let them be as they are. Happy memories are very helpful.

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