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[–] 204 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

I hate being hinted and asked to click on the link, so I save you a click:

It’s the end of an era: the founder and original developer of Nova Launcher — Kevin Barry — has stepped away from the development of the iconic custom launcher. This essentially marks the end of the road for the launcher, as it is unlikely to receive updates or new features. For years now, Nova Launcher has been the go-to launcher for power Android users, standing out for its plethora of customization options and features.

Now that Nova is in literal limbo, if not allegedly in the hands of some data miner, there should be talk about substitutes.

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  • [–] 77 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That talk about substitutes happened when it was initially handed over to said data miner, and anybody concerned should have switched back then. I did, moving to Lawnchair, and never looked back. Oodles of other options are doubtlessly available.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Lawnchair was too bare bones for me. However, I was able to recreate 90%+ of my Nova setup with Neo.

    https://github.com/NeoApplications/Neo-Launcher

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hasn't had a release since 2023 🫤

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Their other projects are in active development, so I wouldn't consider it to be abandoned.

    I haven't had any issues besides the desktop being occasionally unresponsive. Same thing used to happen to me in Nova.

    It's FOSS and suits my needs. But I can see why others may want to stay away from it.

    https://github.com/NeoApplications

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    [–] 64 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    For those coming looking for alternatives, this mega comparison chart is what I used to select an alternative launcher when I switched.

    I would strongly recommend checking this site for the trackers in an app if you're at all concerned about privacy. Links to each app's exodus privacy report is also at the end of the table linked above.

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  • [+] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Fossify is a tad too basic for me. I use the dialler and calculator. Both have slight issues. The calculator always starts with zero so tapping 1416 will give you 14016.

    Dialler doesnt seem to wake or respond as quick as others.

    I take it as it is given I know it is private and open but still there are gaps in UI and UX with foss that I wish were a bigger priority.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Help a brother out, which one is closest to Nova? I don't mind paying for good work, I just want home screens and being able to place my icons where I want, also widgets!

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  • [–] 63 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I might be misremembering but wasn't it bought out by one of those data harvesting companies a while ago?

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  • [–] 57 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    I'm very thankful to Kevin for this amazing launcher that I'm still using to this day.

    Also a bit disapointed he trusted Branch and gave them the opportunity to ruin it.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    You make it sound as if human greed as part of the human condtion will suddenly and magically disappeared under any other form of trade or political system. That is not what literal history has us shown to be the case, over, and over again.

    What fucked it up was he selling to the wrong company. But we do not know why he did it. For all we know, he was tired to taking lead in the project and wanted to cash out. He was entitled to do that, or what is the option, force him to work on it just for your needs or to sell to only the company that you or I approved of? What gives us the right to force their hand?

    It sucks but that is what he wanted. We both agree that it us unfortunate though. It is too bad.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    That human nature will disappear when provided an egalitarian society is the biggest lie I see parroted over and over again by folks who also demand I read theory.

    Our nature isn’t a result of our systems, our systems are a result of our nature

    See: https://sh.itjust.works/comment/20851810

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

    The human condition is dictated by the hegemonic system that is governing.

    Monopoly™ the game is structually engineered so that players kill the competition and secure the entire board. Would playing by the game's rules make me inherently a capitalist jerk? No, because they dictate my behaviour and not following them would put me outside the realm of the game (i.e. the system) resulting in my loss (decay).

    If the capitalist system incentivizes me to outcompete others and hoard my wealth and, conversely, punishes me for my altruism; then, I am forced to play by the rules of such a system.

    "Human nature" is much more complex to be reduced to just greed. This is what's so cool about being humans, we are so malleable and can be many many things either at once or separately.

    Edit: I want to give some concrete examples to what I'm saying. Initially, the Google leadership was skeptical about AI funding, because of privacy and environmental concerns. Yet, as rival competition grew they backpedaled because this would mean their spot as the strongest teck company would be usurped. The late hop into AI funding and development heavily impacted their prospects and they remain falling behind in this respect (source). Here, we have an exemplary case of how the system automatically punishes hood deeds and reinforces predatory and greedy acts.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Did you know that Monopoly was originally invented by a woman whose point was how horrible monopolies are? It originally had a co-op mode that could topple monopolies through unions and co-ops.

    Her game was bought by a jerk who removed the co-op mode and then claimed Monopoly as his own game. She died penniless.

    If the capitalist system incentivizes me to outcompete others and hoard my wealth and, conversely, punishes me for my altruism; then, I am forced to play by the rules of such a system.

    So change it... or be a pebble in the mountain of change.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Only through the proletarian revolution can we overthrow the capitalist mode of production, and so we should be diffusing social consciousness to the working class, and contribute to the mobilization of unions.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    You make it sound as if every system is perfectly equal, and that all humans are the same, and that nothing we choose or decide matters at all and that the only form of existence is the one we are seeing right now.

    Jesus christ if this was a film you'd happily be hooked up to a bunch of tubes in a goo pod pretending you're free.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I don’t even know how to use Android without Nova…

    Why does nothing good ever last?

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I switched to Niagara a few years back because Nova didn't have good support for foldables and tbh I haven't looked back. It's very different but once you get used to it it's much faster than a traditional launcher.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I switched to Niagara a few years ago when Nova was sold. True game changer once you get used to it (which doesn't take too long). It works great on phone or tablet. And there is still something SO satisfying about watching the alphabet and apps move with your thumb. It's so smooth and the haptic feedback is perfect (running on Pixel 7, GrapheneOS, and a cheap old Samsung tablet A8).

    Random video showing the UI within the first minute:

    https://youtu.be/sh6q5bjcaXQ

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  • [–] 69 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    if it's nova launcher I'm gonna be pissed.

    edit: it's nova launcher. fucking fuck.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Hey by any chance do you have the last APK file and the SHA256 of that file ?

    Oh wait, it this it ?

    https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/teslacoil-software/nova-launcher/nova-launcher-8-1-1-release/nova-launcher-8-1-1-android-apk-download/

    Name: com.teslacoilsw.launcher_8.1.1-81001_minAPI26(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk
    Size: 11970405 bytes (11 MiB)
    SHA256: 30bccfdd995969089ad364a7a6bb7bbea482a703fbfb30ebccad6418aa977fec

    Is there an x86_64 version ?

    Just making sure we've got the last version saved

    Oh wait, it's not open source ? And they've been acquired in 2022 ?

    date of acquisition 2022-07-19

    Ok, last one before the acquisition, just in case

    https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/teslacoil-software/nova-launcher/nova-launcher-8-0-2-release/nova-launcher-8-0-2-android-apk-download/

    Name: com.teslacoilsw.launcher_8.0.2-80002_minAPI26(arm64-v8a,armeabi-v7a)(nodpi)_apkmirror.com.apk
    Size: 12580956 bytes (11 MiB)
    SHA256: 61a760413387dde99f2a2ef4b065caf278b575c8028cc5b3092f05192cfee258

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago

    Fuck, I've been using this since I got an android phone in 2008. RIP.

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  • [–] 85 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    In a Reddit AMA, the then-Branch CEO Alex Austin also revealed that if Kevin ever left Branch, they would open-source Nova Launcher's code and release it to the community.

    We still have hope if they keep their promise!

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Read a bit further:

    Two years later, Kevin Barry left Branch and is no longer involved in Nova’s development. In his announcement, Barry revealed that he had been the sole developer for the past year, spending recent months preparing to open source Nova Launcher and clean up its codebase. However, Branch ultimately asked him to stop both development and his open-sourcing efforts.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I read it. But they still promised open source, nothing about Barry working on it or not.

    That's why I said "keeping their promise"

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The fact that the company forced him to stop getting ready to open source it strongly suggests they aren't interested in it being open sourced.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    God DAMMIT.

    I don't know why, but this is some proverbial straw for me today. Motherfuck.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Its Lawnchair or nothing for me.

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    KISS has been the only reasonable launcher ever since Android ruined it's overview system.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it's open sauce, has shortcuts, widgets, & works fine.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    These companies lack any sort of common sense. Nova is used (and suggested) by Android users that are at least minimally tech-savvy. What on earth would make them believe that news like this one would remain secret, and therefore allow them to keep the userbase to suck on their data?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (33 children)

    Does anyone have recommendations to replace Nova?

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    There's no direct replacement. The features I use are in Pear launcher so I use that. You have to look through launcher comparisons to find the features you need.

    Also, I'm surprised purple are still using Nova. I thought most people abandoned it after it got sold.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It has been owned by a data mining company for a number of years.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Sure, but the duration of the ownership doesn't matter a whole lot in this sort of situation. If you've missed the news about the selling when it happened, it's relatively unlikely you'll learn about it afterwards. I don't periodically do a background check of all the devs and owners of my apps.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It's very much not a classic launcher and takes some getting used to, but Kvaesitso is nice.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I'm using Kvaesitso as well. But just looked at the permissions and I am shocked. Don't know when the permissions changed, but I'm switching right now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    Those are for widgets that you choose to enable. Hard to access search features without permission to search, if you don't want them, all you have to do is ... not enable them / disable them if you flipped the on ...

    Kvaesitso is awesome, updates regularly, and was the best launcher I found that worked for my use case transition from Nova.

    Granted I avoided trying a lot of the Freemium ones, or others.that were corporate controlled. Not interested in a forced migration 2.0, open source is nice cause it can always be forked if something happens.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    There is no way to use the built in features without those permissions I think. Like weather (location), search contacts and calendars, ..

    I think they have been there a long time. It also needs pretty deep access if you want it to open notifications bar and more..

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    It took me two tries to get used to Kvaesitso but now I love it. I was using Nova until the Branch acquisition, then briefly tried lawnchair but had to move on as it wasn't very stable. Once I realised I could start apps by pressing enter after searching I found it much quicker than scrolling through an app drawer. Unless you can't remember the name of the app that is.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    if you are asking about combinations of customisations, flexibility and stability. none atm.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Have you tried total launcher? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ss.launcher2 I used it in the past and the amount of customization was huge.

    But then I got old and wanted something simpler. Been using Kvaesitso for the last years https://kvaesitso.mm20.de/

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I use Total. I keep trying other launchers, but none come close to the level of customisation.
    I have created such specific layout and navigation that anything else is annoying and slow to use.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    I love my Niagara Launcher ! it's a different concept than most launchers, and looks pretty spartan on first glance, but it's sleek, efficient and can look absolutely fabulous. The Pro stuff is a bit pricey, but it has a good privacy policy, autodelete data older than a year, and are GDPR compliant.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    autodelete data older than a year

    okay, but why do they collect the data in the first place?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I switched from Nova to Smart Launcher and haven't looked back.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I've been using smart launcher for years it's automatic categorization is amazing. Though, wanting change, I recently started using Niagara, and like the minimalist approach too.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    I switched to Niagara after Nova added the shitload of trackers, and i love it. At first i thought: what, i should only place 7 elements on my homescreen? But it really works and it didn't even take a day of active use that i knew i had to get the Pro version. Was the first time i ever put down money on a launcher, but i've been using it for years now and hope i will never need to replace it, because there's nothing that comes close.

    Edit: damn, i read like a goddamn adbot. No, i am really human and like it lol.
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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Have been using Neo Launcher since it had the features I needed from Nova (mostly hiding most apps from the app list while having them on the home screen in some folder so that it isn't a mess when you want to find something specific). It hasn't been updated in a while, but it works perfectly fine for me.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Action launcher is a good replacement that I don't see recommended. Still updated, stuffed with features. The main one I miss on other launchers is "covers" which let you promote one app as the default for a folder, you can swipe it instead of tapping to open the folder or tap to open the default. I only really use about 10 or so apps super regularly, so it's great as I just have a single home screen that I rarely need to leave

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    gahdam...end of an era. This sucks.

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