I’m so confused by how Reddit is being moderated now. I had someone follow me to various subreddits, responding to every comment I made with a particular anti trans slur, (the one that rhymes with “moon”, not sure if I’m allowed to say it here) and a demand that I join the “41 percent” (which basically means “kill yourself.”) I reported their account, just once, and it was the first time I’d ever reported anyone. A few hours later, I was permanently banned for “abusing the report button”. I tried making another account and was instantly banned. The accounts of other people in my household have also been permanently banned, which is the most confusing part of all of it.

The account that was harassing me is still up as far as I’m aware. So, apparently it’s fine to call people slurs and tell them to die, but they’re not allowed to complain about it.

So, I’m new to this place. I was told it was better.

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[–] 39 points 1 year ago

A valuable person has joined the fediverse yay 🥳

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    No good deed goes unpunished on Reddit.

    I caught a temp ban for something similar, and decided to never return.

    They accused me of "abusing the report button" for reporting a post that was advocating violence to advance the political agenda of a far right, ethno-nationalist, religious fundamentalist ideology.

    Reddit admins are terrorist sympathizers when it advances the class interests of the site's owners.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    I got banned for some of the most benign shit on reddit. I also saw them do nothing about right wing hate. But to hear the story from right wingers, reddit is an echo chamber for the left and they are persecuted unfairly there

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Reddit isn't close to free speech in any way. Far-right admins and owners disrupt anything but the most bland discourse, and ban people for stupid, and silly reasons.

    Social media comes and goes, and reddit is fucking GONE. It became a stock traded corporation, and instantly lost all credibility. It's just another billionaire owned media at this point.

    You might as well post on full nazi x.com, then wonder why you get banned when you speak out for LGBTQ rights.

    Yeah, this is better. Not perfect, but better than bluesky for the same reasons.

    I don't want you to commit suicide. I want you to be happy, educated, and productive without nazis or religious jerks bothering you for any reason.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Why do you expect free speech on a private platform?

    I'm not trying to troll I'm trying to understand people's perception of free speech.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    because that was one of reddits founding principles. it was originally very libertarian leaning in that regard and very much in the spirit of freedom of information, etc. like most of the early 2000s internet. it started in 2005 only a year after FB. back when tech was more idealist and less capitalist. it was supposed to be a space you could freely communicate different ideas and form communities and not feel policed or judged or harassed. of course, that's all gone now.

    sort of like how google was 'don't be evil'

    but times changed. being evil makes the stock price go up.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Still doesn't change the fact that at no time does a private organization need to follow free speech.

    Free speech is not about saying what you want when you want and how you want. It's the protection you have to criticize your government and not have any fear of consequences. No private entity needs to follow these rules. Looks like everyone who started with Reddit was duped and didn't understand what free speech is.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    You got ip banned. Consider that Reddit is owned by Corpo Nazi simps and main admins are Evan Nazis themselves, that should clear up the confusion

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    I got banned a couple years ago for the same thing.

    Moderators can report reports as ‘abusive’, and Reddit basically accepts their word without bothering to actually check anything.

    Naturally, certain groups have been exploiting the fuck out of this situation to silence opposing viewpoints.

    You could appeal the ban, but most likely Reddit won’t read it and you’ll get an automated response.

    As for the repeat ban, you’re running into Reddit’s ban evasion features. They use IP address and browser fingerprinting to track you, even when logged out. Easily defeated, with a little effort - assuming you want to.

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  • It's better here. About a third of the accounts are LGBTQties. Check out https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/ for all your trans related needs. Welcome to the nicer part of the internet.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    Would you mind linking your old account or some old comments? I'd love to have something substantive to show off to people who don't believe how fascist Reddit is these days

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Can someone (privately if need be) tell me what the slur is? I'm losing my mind coming up with rhyming words for that that have historical offense and I'm coming up short (and I'm american, so the word may not even culturally exist here)

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah it’s a slur from 4chan that combines transvestite and goon into troon.

    I am ignorant of how strict the language filters are so I’ll let the gods decide my fate.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Thanks, hadn't heard that one before. Good to know, (without context at least) I'd definitely wouldn't have recognised it as a slur. Doesn't help that 'troon' happens to be the Dutch word for 'throne'. 😋

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Also confused / ignorant here. The only one I can think of is a slur usually aimed at black people, not trans people. (Starts with C.)

    With apologies to anyone who could have done without a reminder of that word, especially if it's not the one OP's talking about.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Both of my accounts got smacked with the permbanhammer unreasonably harshly especially considering the "offense" being that I said Neo-Nazis should be named and shamed.

    Reddit admins are Nazi sympathizers and the entire platform is rotten.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Congrats on the IP ban, those are usually reserved for serious offenders. Take it as a badge of honor, honestly.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Don't be shy with the details. Which subs were involved, and which user.

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    It was across multiple communities, as the user was following me and responding to everything I said. The comment I reported was in r/memes, and the first place they started hassling me was r/funny.

    Once I know it’s alright to do so, I’ll share a screenshot of one of the messages they sent to me.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Reddit is a tool of fascist states now, when they went public the pivoted from a user based buisness model to a government surveillance and propaganda based buisness model.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, it's generally better in here in that respect. Transphobia is massively downvoted and commonly banned as well.

    There are quite a few trans communities here, too, if you belong to the group and seek a friendly environment.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    I mean, that's reddit we're talking about

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    while that's maybe the worst example I've seen, that checks out for reddit. thanks for reaffirming my decision to not try to go back

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  • [–] 47 points 1 year ago (20 children)

    Here it's Russia-China-loving Marxist Leninists you gotta watch out for ;-;

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (18 children)

    Yep, my first account was made on the wrong instance and I was like “wtf is wrong with everyone here? Like I get corporations fuckin’ suck, but communism???”

    They’re also HUGE babies and will claim -ism, -phobia, etc. by stretching the littlest thing.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Worshipping russia isnt communism btw. You are mistaken, use the words wisely

    I dont blame you for this position, no wonder america/europe has history of red scare propaganda.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I get corporations fuckin’ suck, but communism???

    It's not even actual communism either, but more like tankie-ism. Stalin's USSR and Mao's China weren't communist either, but more like dictatorships / autocracies dressed up with 'communist principles.' But I digress, maybe.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    No you’re right, I oversimplified and falsely associated the dictatorships that ruled under the guise of “Nah this is communism guys ITS FOR YOU”

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Okay, gotcha.

    I guess my main reason for piping up there is that the more I've learned from history, the more I've noticed a wider and wider gap between what it's like living in actual communes (which to me are probably the closest thing to our traditional living system, i.e. "tribes"), and the huge autocracies which declared themselves "communist."

    The other problem is that many in the west (especially the USA) were either disingenuous or completely ignorant about what was really going on over there, and of course The Red Scare became an awful lever and power-play which ruined a lot of peoples lives.

    Bah, sorry for all the ranting.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Nah I welcome polite/informative ranting, makes for an interesting time on here.

    I think I continue to agree with you.

    Personally, I subscribe (to my own personal theory) that we haven’t really biologically “evolved” since when we were living together in small/villages as tribes — effectively communes. We did not evolve to know everything about the entire world and have the problem-solving/logistical skills necessary to feed and help more than maybe 100 people (those that should live in our commune) lol

    All that to say I think living on a commune with my fam and buddies would be pretty cool, so long as no tankies are there lol.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Oh yeah, I agree a lot about the evolution issue, and I think the lack of such is directly reflected in people commonly feeling overwhelmed by this modern life. Also common for us to be poor at perceiving global issues of the day (like sustainability), and being easily manipulated in to voting against our own interests as kind of a knee-jerk reaction to all that.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I almost made my first account on Lemmygrad because I love puns and didn't know that they were ACTUAL tankies.

    Thankfully, I found out in time and made my first one on the also politically sus but in a different way .world 😄

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I've never tried to get an account on .world, what are their politics like?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's such a big tent that there really isn't any prevailing culture. Some people just like to shit on it because it's the largest instance.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    You're right and you're not: like the Democratic Party, it's a big tent encompassing multitudes.

    But also like the Democratic Party, the leadership aka mods and admins (as well as the political communities) is thoroughly dominated by Neoliberals with tendencies towards authoritarianism and prizing negative peace over justified tension.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    Listen, you either slavishly devote yourself to the market system or you're trying to run me over with a tank.

    There is no middle ground, and anyone who argues otherwise is a violent extremist. 😔

    Somehow, this place is still miles ahead of Reddit. The bar is that low.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    .world has no politics in so much it has all of them.

    Calling .world political is like calling the ocean full of fish. It's the biggest most diverse instance. And so homogenous that you can't in good faith really say it's anything.

    It's just big.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    Unfortunately transphobia and homophobia persist here too. Maybe less visibly than reddit at least.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The differense in the Fediverse is that absolutely no instance admin here needs to show "user number up" to some owner. On the contrary, it costs actual money to run the instances so there's an actual incentive to just throw out bad actors as soon as they're identified.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    And even when it's otherwise, people can defederate those instances. Yes, the internet became a worse place every time antisocial people got a less restricted outlet (starting with Something Awful and 4chan, now they have basically all of mainstream social media + private Discords/Matrices/Telegrams for those who want to organize in secret), yes networked harrasment organized on those made the "don't feed the trolls" an irrelevant advice if not used by said trolls themselves (seen gamergate people using the term to mean "do as we want you to"), but the old internet was a better part.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    as well as other bigotries, jesus the misogyny i see in conversations here

    tho, usually the moderators and admins (at least here on LBZ) are good and take action on reports

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Been there dude. I have tried reports on reddit for horrible comments... they never got removed.

    then noticed my comments were removed/reported/banned for the same reasons even though my comments had nothing to do with racism/sexism/phobia, etc.

    Some psycho troll targeted you and reddit took their side because that's what reddit does.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    The reporting function doesn't work, just like the appeals don't work. Reddit is trying to get rid of anyone who provides content, but not to their standard. Permabans are the easiest way to discourage us from coming back. Banning your IP and MAC address takes it a step further and is another reason why many people are confused and frustrated.

    Honestly, being permabanned is the best thing for me. I hated reddit, but it was the only option i had known of. They constantly push ad's onto you and those stupid "He gets us" jesus propaganda ad's.

    I got permabanned for questioning the presidents health, you are not allowed to question their king.

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  • [+] -8 points 1 year ago

    It's not any better here, just more progressive. Bans are easy to come by here as well.

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