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While i hope it never comes to it, a fascist leader needs some time to prepare potential enemies for the eventual war that is needed to keep the system running.
It's not the tariffs you dumb fucks. It's the annexation bullshit. Why are these journalists so goddamn clueless?
We also hated them a lot more than those other countries before Trump so it’s not a big surprise.
The article gets a few points right but it is yet another news outlet that missed the really big point: Trump threatened to invade Canada. There was a period of time when it was becoming increasingly clear that he was going to use fentanyl as a manufactured crisis and as context for a military occupation or at the very least placing military on the Canadian border. Nearly every time Trump talked about Canada he had to drop some sort of line where he mentioned annexing Canada.
I'm not sure why this detail always slips through the cracks whenever news agencies talk about the souring Canada/US relations. Threatening war on your neighbour is a great way to destroy generations of built-up trust in an instant.
he was going to use fentanyl as a manufactured crisis
He has already used that as a so-called 'emergency' to add tariffs to Canadian imports and strong-arm Carney into increasing border security
I think it's willful ignorance by the media companies.
The 51st State rhetoric is what really boiled Canadians' blood.
Trump never threatened invasion or war with Canada. He threatened and started a TRADE war over the bs fentynal crisis, but there was never a discussion of military action. Hell, when he was specifically asked if he was considering military action, he responded, "No."
He explicitly said he would use "economic force" to conquer Canada, meaning he would break our economy and drive Canadians into poverty in order to force us to join the US. The Idiot Senator from Maine has stated how that would go - no shadows of Canada would be allowed to remain. The violence would implicitly come afterward, because the vast, vast majority of Canadians would not be okay with this - especially since we would not be allowed to vote as states, since Canada is by nature a "blue state" and Republicans would not allow more blue votes. There would be protests, perhaps even Troubles-style terrorism, and Trump would send in the military just like he is currently doing for other uppity "blue" areas like DC and Chicago.
He wouldn't call it "military". He'd call it cracking down on crime, just like he is now. But people would die... probably a lot of people.
Be did say economic force. I'm correcting misinformation. He never threatened invasion, it just did not happen.
I’m correcting misinformation.
You're splitting hairs. Donald Trump is a delusional malignant narcissist, a stochastic terrorist, and a wannabe mafia don. He speaks in innuendo and "deniable" language: "Russia, if you're listening", "You won't have to vote again", "I need you to find me 11k votes".
He doesn't threaten to invade Greenland, he's just "going to get it one way or another."
He doesn't threaten to invade Panama, he's just "going to take it back."
He's not threatening to invade Mexico, he's "going after the gangs".
He's nearly incapable of envisioning the outcome of his own actions. Nearly all the actions above would result in war. He wouldn't call it war. Like his idol, he'd likely call it a "special military operations". But the rest of the world would call it a war. He's threatening war not directly, but as a direct and predictable outcome of choices.
Of course he never threatened invasion. He would deny he's ordering an invasion even as he orders an invasion. And the weird shit is, thanks to his mental illness, he would deny it's an invasion, deny it's a war, inside his own head even as he gives the orders to do so.
And you're sitting there "well ackchually"-ing the words of the most dishonest and delusional humans alive, as if anything he says or doesn't say means anything at all.
If you want to be anal about annexation through economic force not counting as an invasion, we can dive the pedantism rabbit hole and argue that invasion is not just about trespassing. And saying that military force is “highly unlikely” is the same as saying that it’s a possibility.
Regardless, the guy is a liar and the threat of annexation should be seriously considered equivalent to a threat of military force. Whether he said it all in a full sentence instead of through memes and insinuations is practically irrelevant.
Because that's not the way the USA breaks countries. They economically tie them off then "save" the "failed state". This is done under the guise of threats like WMDs or fentanyl, ignoring that the majority of fentanyl on US streets is stolen from US hospitals.
Not only am I boycotting because of the threat of war and tariffs, but when it comes to food I just don't trust what's coming from the US. With them continuing to remove regulations, and RFK being a crazy person, who the hell knows what's going to end up in the food.
I don't boycott US goods and services because of tariffs. I do it because the US government has threatened and continues to threaten our sovereignty and has shown complete disrespect towards the entire country.
I always felt like it was a good idea to prefer imports from developed nations with functional, representative governments. As an American, it is pretty embarrassing for my neighbor to see my roommate's leopard eating my face though.
Did we not start the movement after Trump came in? I know I was starting to do the move prior but really kicked it up after Trump did what he did.
Carney has done nothing but roll over and present after winning the election... the boycott has been entirely carried out by the people of Canada
As opposed to inviting/begging the fascist scum through the front door if the regressives had won?
Stop what abouting. We have a PM who is doing exactly the opposite then what he said he intended. It's not about what would have happened. It's about what is actually happening now. Don't stand up to it and we're just Murica lite.
Let’s be honest: the American economy dominates Canada’s. Retaliatory tariffs still hurt Canadians, much much more than Americans.
Buy nothing from us. Make us suffer and maybe just maybe the MAGAites will fucking learn.
I don't think that's the intention amongst any of the people I know who are avoiding US products currently, which is quite a few. We're a relatively tiny population size / economy to the United States, and pretending like we'd have the ability to make the states "suffer" with our actions is pretty silly.
Reasons I've heard tend to vary. Some just don't want to support a foreign country that is acting hostile towards us. Many who are looking at the digital side, are increasingly avoiding US tech because it's ignoring Canada laws and imposing US requirements / ideological crap on us -- the AI tools MS uses to probe peoples OneDrive accounts, for example, banning people based on US government trends. This is similar to some others, who want to remove US products because the US is just unreliable and not suited for anything you rely on anymore, as the availability of anything could be impacted by Trump's whims. The US isn't a stable, reasonable or rational trading partner at this point - as demonstrated by how tariffs are broadcast / set. There's even now a non-zero chance that the US may actually attack other western countries, which previously would be unthinkable -- the foreign influence campaigns in Greenland, and the likely influence campaigns in places like Alberta, as well as the Trump administrations indication of potentially attacking "cartels" in Mexico without Mexican involvement, are easy measures there, as is Trump's own comments about selling sub-standard military assets to allies because "Maybe they won't be our allies forever". Heck, half the USA cheered Musk goose-stepping around and doing Nazi salutes earlier this year, though it feels like a decade ago with all the crap coming out of the states currently.
So long and short, it's more about our own safety and security, than it is about 'hurting' the United States. And for most, it's not something that will go away if you all manage to elect a 'sane' democrat or republican next time around. The merit and temper of your government/country's sorta been exposed, and it'll take decades of 'sane' foreign policy to recover.
This pisses me off, it’s not because of the tariffs, it’s because he threatened our sovereignty.
I came here to say just this. This is something the press—most especially the American press—can't seem to figure out. We're not boycotting because of tariffs. We're not boycotting because our feelings got hurt. We're boycotting because the largest military machine on the planet decided to threaten us with a takeover after decades of us supporting them in almost every half-baked plan they ever had.
Time to say goodbye.
The media explicitly ignores that because it doesn't fit their agenda. I've only seen 1 article out of many that actually listed that in a list of other reasons for why Canadians are boycotting US goods.
Exactly. There's a serious difference between what happened and simply applying tariffs, which I would compare as an analogy to an argument about who is going to pay the bill at dinner for someone's birthday, which no matter how unreasonable and unjustified is not worth throwing away decades of close friendship or family ties over. This is an argument where one person says you'd better pay the bill at dinner or I'm going to kill you. That's a death threat, that's abusive, and that will not be tolerated, and the only reasonable course of action is to immediately and absolutely cut ties and file a restraining order. That is not a joke, and we will not treat it as a joke.
I talk to American friends about it and they're like: "are you still thinking about that?" "we forgot about that a long while back"
it's like geez ... well it's kinda important to us.
The article also suggests the "trade war" is the reason Canadians aren't traveling to the US, and not the plainclothes government thugs who could grab you off the street and hold you without any legal process in inhumane conditions indefinitely. Where a Canadian his died from being denied access to medications.
But yeah, right. It's the tariffs.
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