Counterpoint - greedy bastard CEOs killing your relatives by denying healthcare they’ve been paying premiums for for years is inspiring violence.

Umm. It's not Luigi inspiring violence.

Hey, greedy motherfuckers... you ever stop to think WHY people want to see you murdered in the street?

Let it be stated here, if I'm ever inspired to commit acts of violence it will be strictly because a Nazi is the richest man on earth and the only good Nazi is a dead Nazi.

This is such BS. There's actually been a disturbing LACK of copy cats, and dead CEO's.

No, the United Healthcare's CEO inspired other CEOs to deny more claims, which has a MUCH higher death count.

This is harm reduction.

I'm late to this party but I always like to chip in on Luigi threads:

1. That other people were inspired to kill CEOs by this killing is irrelevant. I mean, it's debatable that it's true at all. But even if it were, that feels relevant only insofar as this is a jury trial - and thats not a bug of a jury trial, it's a feature. Public sentiment doesn't really get a say outside the 12 folks in the box.

2. There is a serious chain of evidence issue with the supposed murder weapon. Body cams are turned off, (improper) when Luigis bag is taken from him, and according to filings, that bag wasn't searched until back at a local station over 30 minutes later. That strikes people as suspect as it's outside normal procedure for cops, who would normally search a bag right away during the arrest. The cops were alone with that bag for 30 minutes prior to "finding" the gun. Most unbelievable, they expect us to believe that someone capable of this killing, and producing an inherently disposable 3D printed "ghost gun", then failed to ditch it and carried it across state lines? He couldn't find a garbage can to pitch it in over 24 hours later?

3. People say Luigi couldn't be the adjuster because of the height/build difference between him and the security footage of Brian Thompsons shooting. I find this less convincing as the footage is extremely unclear. But I will say at the very least, nothing in that footage has been brought to my attention that supports Luigi being the shooter. No shill pundit or sweaty former prosecutor desperate for their 15 minutes has got on TV and said "See, here's what the prosecution is going to point to to build their case."

It would seem to me, that Luigi is a troubled young rich kid who wrote some critical, if meandering, things about his frustrations with US Healthcare, got accused by a McDonalds employee who was financially incentivized to see a suspect, had evidence planted by some cops hoping to catch this rising folk hero before anyone else got any ideas, and then got railroaded by the most corrupt DOJ since the Gilded Age.

Is he on trial for inspiring other people to commit violent acts? Is that one of the charges he is facing? No, He is on trial for murder. How other people respond to that is not his responsibility.

Additionally, he is still on trial. He has not been found guilty. So they are saying that something he may or may not have done is responsible for other people potentially doing something that they haven't yet done.

What a bunch of irrelevant hogwash.

Name one copycat CEO killing.

Or if you do think there is a trend, show me that it started this incident and not gentures at the current state of affairs and entirety of American history

I literally do not see what the problem here is...

Luigi doesn't inspire to kill anyone

CEOs inspire people to kill CEOs

I fuckin wish dude

Billionaires do more to inspire attacks against billionaires than anyone else, we should start by attacking that problem first.

Even if true, how is that relevant to the case?

What's inspiring violence is 95% of the world is being robbed by the other 5%.

Bullshit. Its the corpos' actions that provide all the inspiration

My teacher said it was good to have aspirations and be inspiring.

If rich parasites have to fear for their lives then I don't see that as a bad thing. I see it as nature aspiring to correct itself in an inspiring way!

No proof of that at all. I haven't heard of a single other healthcare ceo getting deleted.

Provide examples then.

Its an inspirational story.

One to aspire to. Who doesn't want to be a hero?

And make no mistake, slaying a dragon is a heroic act. Universally recognized as such by everyone except other dragons.

Luigi didn't inspire anyone to kill. He was with me that day!

Zero proof of that. Just scaremongering and sensationalized BS by prosecutors. I mean, wishful thinking and all, but still not real.

Well let’s talk about that in regards to Kyle rittenhouse, the January 6th rioters, Daniel penny, Vance boelter and the endless stream of far right terrorists we are forced to tolerate. Luigi is a man of the people a real life hero in a soul crushing dystopian hell hole.

That's a lie.

It's the disparity in wealth that's inspiring people towards violence.

Billionaires shouldn't exist.

If his ideas are as widely supported as prosecutors claim, how do they have any chance of getting a unanimous conviction?

Aren’t they basically admitting there’s no fair way to convict the guy?

That's a weird way to spell 'folk hero'.

The American system encourages violence. You arm every citizen, piss them off and deny services and then wonder why they resort to violence. It's the method you built a to your system. Stop trying to blame the lone wolf, you are the problem.

Pretty sure it's the actions of parasitic CEOs in the pursuit of ever expanding profits with no concern for the wellbeing of the public that is inspiring people to violence.

How dare those filthy plebes get ideas about fighting back?!?

has inspired others to embrace violence over reasoned debate

It is definitely not the murder of whatever ceo that fueled the will to go over "reasoned debate". It's the absolute lack of effects from "reasoned debate" for the majority of populations.

Good, they deserve the hate.

Or its the overwhelming economic conditions.

United Healthcare CEO is responsible for a system that made Luigi Mangione suffer an unbearable amount of pain.

No that would be CEOs and other rich sociopathic fucks.

If only that were true.

United's violence against their customers denying necessary, doctor advised medical care they paid premiums for is inspiring towards more violence, let's not start the wheel halfway already turned

This is journalistic malpractice. They're trying to try this guy for other potential crimes against the absolutely most hated minority in america, for profit health insurance CEOs.

Lmao. "Reasoned debate"

If that's true, then let's sue the right-wing media for glorifying every white-supremacist mass shooting as a misunderstood troubled souls, encouraging any angsty WASPs out there looking for attention

Legally... how is that relevant to determining guilt? Sentencing maybe.

Are there examples of other violence?

Self Defence....it's self defence.

I think we are going to need a few more examples to buy this argument.

Free Luigi!

Luigi > Dead CEO

Clearly not as much as was needed

Basically all evil of the world is his fault. Nice, I hope next evidence would be antichrist bible verses.

Luigi's continued incarceration is proof that the majority of us cannot tell hot brown-eyed himbos apart

he looks nothing like that guy apart from being a hottie with a couple similar "drivers license" features

based, can't wait

Harmful words it's not his fault everyone is outraged.

please, I can only get so erect

When a school shooter shoots kids do you get inspired towards violence? No. So you are looking at the wrong direction for the inspiration source.