cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/35105296

CMV: This is the gun grab.

Step 1: Create State Militas run by federal deputies

Step 2: revisit Heller, etc. and stress well run milita part.

Step 3: confiscate all non milita weapons.

Step 4: burn Constitution?

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[–] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The US military is not supposed to EVER be deployed in police actions on domestic soil.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    ... protests. Ah, he said the quiet part out loud.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Scenes if Trump is finally the one to eradicate Americas gun addiction.

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    [–] 83 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I have a great idea for a name, too. They can call them Guard Emplacements Suppressing Tyranny And Protecting Order.

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Well... It's not the first time the National Guard gunned down protesters. No one was ever held responsible for Kent State murders, and Kent State was not the only college that saw National Guard violence. 60 years ago, and in that time, no laws were changed to prevent it from happening again.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Lol wut. That's why they were created. To gun down strikers and protect companies.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Ah yes, protect the great american companies of the 17th century

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    The national guard of the 1600s was organized around fighting american indians to assist with the colonization of North America.

    The modern national guard wasn't formed until the Dick Act of 1903, after which they were almost immediately used to suppress labor strikes. You can look into the Colorado Labor Wars or the Ludlow Massacre for some contemporary examples.

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Director Hegseth, execute order 47

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago* (8 children)

    Ok then. This sounds exactly like the stuff all you Second Amendment aficionados have been warning about my entire life. I assume that you’re all prepping, and gearing up to take out these federal goons when they show up in your town. Right? I mean, if this isn’t it, then you’ve just been cosplaying that ‘don’t tread on me’ bravado this whole time. Time to put up.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    They'll never think about it like that. Even though Ruby Ridge happened under Bush 41, the Weavers are all insane about Democrats. Even though most of them would suggest 9/11 was an Inside Job to pass the Patriot Act, under Bush 43, it was all Obama to blame for anything bad. Even though Trump banned bump stocks, it's the Dems that love gun control (which they rarely ever actually pass). Even though James Brady was Reagan's press secretary, the Brady Bill passed under Clinton right after Waco happened and the ATF made taking guns a national obsession with those people.

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  • [+] -9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Motherfucker the second amendment doesn’t only apply to “aficionados”, but all citizens. Where were you when they banned the most effective guns with which to resist tyranny?

    So that means you’re stepping up too, right? You didn’t just ask me to go die alone for you because you couldn’t be bothered and maybe don’t like guns to begin with, right? You realize that there’s a difference between one guy with a gun and forty guys with guns, RIGHT?

    Google Cliven Bundy or MFAC for admittedly unfavorable but effective examples of this, and then feel free to fuck off after that.

    Or were you talking to the more numerous MAGA gun nuts who can’t wait to goose step over and kiss some boots and who obviously won’t be lifting a finger to stop any of this?

    I hate your shitty, smug, and typical response because this shit is serious and you’re a fucking joke.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Bro chill. They were talking direct to all the people who scream that they need guns after the latest school shooting prompts people to talk about gun control. All the people who have guns “for self defense” because they believe that stealing a TV deserves the death penalty. All the people who claim that guns are important to stand up to tyranny while they vote for conservatives time after time.

    You’re taking this to such a personal level and we’re [probably] not even talking about you.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Why? It doesn’t work. They’re there in DC and they still haven’t beat the shit out of Trump and imprisoned him.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    There are 109,000 cities & town in the US. You are going to create a second 'police' department run by the Federal government (just like Russia has). That is a huge financial undertaking.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That is a huge financial undertaking.

    Congress gave ICE $75 billion over four years, approximately $18.7 billion each year because daddy Trump demanded it. Added to the $10 billion Congress already appropriated ICE for fiscal year 2025 in March, ICE now has $28.7 billion at its disposal this year. ICE alone now has more budgeted than the entire Department of Justice.

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    That's not how the Russian police works. They will be a Federal police department at the mercy of the orange illiterate dictator's orders/whims.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

    This guy has the worldview and the emotional maturity of a toddler. After this whole thing has passed, there MUST be guardrails put in place against this kind of individual

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    This is likely the end of the road my friend, there is no "when this has passed".

    That is why there is no reason not to fight with everything you have now.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't have a say in what happens in the US, I am fighting locally on our own issues here in Mayotte. I wasn't trying to say fascism would "pass", that was a poor choice of words. Let's reword it to "when Trumpism is dead".

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    That makes sense, keep up the good fight wherever you are and sorry to misinterpret you my bad!

    Also, I did not know Mayotte was a place until today. Very cool!

    Dziana Dzaha looks wild!!!

    https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/151046/mayottes-lagoon

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Not at all, don't be it's alright. Much strength to you as well in facing these dark times.

    I walked around lake Dziani once, it's covered in pale green algae such that the surface looks solid. It is a strange sight. There's a few folk tales about it too (ghosts, spirits.... I don't remember the specifics)

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    We had a chance. Biden's administration should have been solely focused on preventing the return and acceleration of fascism. Instead, they cowed to their corporate masters and threw crumbs to the people.

    As others have said, we've likely had our last free election as the United States of America. Whatever follows should absolutely have guardrails against this happening again.

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    They've been trying to spin literally any protests or even just token resistance as criminal, and rural voters, by and large, absolutely believe that cities are hives of crime and iniquity.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It’s not just that: I have a brother who’s not even that conservative but seems to sincerely believe the Gaza protests on college campuses are terrorism and Trump is justified in cutting medical research associated with those colleges

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I don't get how the medical research at a university (which benefits the country) should be tied to protesters anyway. Even if they were actually "terrorists".

    It's so stupid I don't even have the words.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This hits me especially hard. My little one had a medical crisis as a baby: Harvard sponsored research over a couple decades turned his condition from 70% fatal to 90% survival. My baby is alive and going to college this year because of this research. How dare they play games with this?

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It's not just rural voters. I was just at a dentist apt in suburban Washington and the hygienist was talking about how her son just moved away from California and that she was glad he was getting away because of "how bad the crime has gotten in California".

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Human Trafficking and Child Rape.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    Yes, but those are crimes that Taco and his affiliates are accused of. What crimes are they supposedly combating? If they want to drastically reduce crime, Taco should be arrested and thrown in prison, along with most of his staff, administration, and his supporters.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    Its almost like he wants the California National guard to repeatedly shove their bayonets up his ass and string him upside down from a telephone pole in the streets of DC.

    Please, proceed..

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    Sure. Sure. Now, about all the child rape...

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  • [–] [S] 7 points 1 year ago

    Sure. Use your guns to sieze the epstein files, hard drives, etc.

    But do it before they are gone.

    They will keep attacking and doing evil stuff while we want Files. They will give up power when pried from cold dead hands.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Trump, after signing the "restore the sanctity of christian marriage act", which bans any sexual acts outside of marriage and without the intent of reproduction, as well as all forms of pornography, will get caught raping young girls in the white house, then he will instead rub it into the faces of liberals (read: everyone left of Mussolini) that he and other people in the system can do whatever they want. Then a TV advertisement about serving president Trump will explicitly say that "if you are loyal enough, you can even rape children". Then Elon Musk begin tweeting about his new girlfriend, a very terrified looking 11 year old.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    British did exactly this when perpetrating the Boston massacre prior to the Revolution.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago

    Just look at these idiots.

    This picture, people will look back on this picture and wonder HTF.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    Time for a good ole fashioned coup.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Gun grab? Really? I mean it’s about control for sure. But your first thought was gun grab? It’s to create a dictatorship. The fascist fucks won’t stop on that but… gun grab is not how I would describe it…

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    An inevitable goal in a dictatorship is disarming the opposition. The in-group can often keep their weapons to help oppress the outgroups.

    This was also, as it happens, one of the real goals of the 2nd Amendment. Most of the founders weren't under any real belief that a militia based military was a viable treat to a regular army like the British model, they saw how poorly the militias fared in the Revolution.

    The militia model that was the goal of the 2nd was about rapid reactionary forces for slave revolts and Indian exterminations.

    Personally I think this is more about killing protestors but whatever they can do two things with one action

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Yeah I mean you’re right, power and control, but the they’re coming to take your guns is such a republican idk… dog whistle? Like why is that what you’re worried about when what’s at stake is so huge. I mean unless you’re hoping for a civil war or something.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Except less you forget it's always projection. Trump already signalled he would take the guns first then have the court figure it out. This did not cause a shitstorm with conservative 2a types. Why you ask? Same reason as they don't care about ice kidnapping and disappearing people. Harder to stop an illegal takeover if you are bringing rocks to a gunfight. He has promised those dogs the full boot, unlimited licking time and if they are lucky they can own a stitch in the leather.

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  • ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    What are we gonna do about it? Slam him?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    What protests?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Definition of crime for them is resistance

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I wonder when Trump will burn the constitution on live TV

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    [–] 35 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's not even remotely legal.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Exactly as many of us and the California state government said was going to happen if the courts didn't stop the Trump admin.

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