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[–] 8 points 1 year ago

Holy click bait Batman!

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    [–] 64 points 1 year ago (10 children)

    AI doomsday marketing wank has the same vibe as preteens at a sleepover getting spooked by a ouija board.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Yes, but no different than AI competence wank. LLMs are a significant step forward, but not even remotely intelligent. It's all bullshit and hype.

    One day it won't be. We aren't there yet.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    No, Y2K would have been catastrophic.

    But a shit ton of people out in a ridiculous amount of work and everything was updated.

    People concerned were fucking "doomers", they were the reason shit didn't go terribly.

    But because rational.people helped everyone avoid the consequences, idiots think we could have just ignored it and had the same result.

    It's fucking ridiculous you didn't learn this lesson from covid even if you're too young to have experienced Y2K

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    Its like the problems around the ozone hole, or acid rain.

    A lot of people scrambled and worked very hard to find an alternative that didn't cause problems, and now it's almost like they never existed, and people think it was much ado over nothing.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Had a friend who was hired by a temp agency to reprogram outdated mainframes in an ancient programming language. He was paid for training. There were ARMIES of people like him doing last-minute fixes. Y2K would have been a tremendous disaster if people had just ignored it.

    See also: the environment, but without armies of people working on fixes.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I should've specified. Even after there were a a ton of work put in, doomers existed to the last second. There were doomers who really thought the world was going to end without mentioning the technology aspect of it. These doomers, even after the date passed kept moving up the date and repeated this process.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The streak continues that anyone who uses "doomer" has no fucking clue what they're talking about ..

    You deleted your first reply because it was bullshit, then you make a new one to double down on it?

    Fuck man, how do you expect to learn anything when the list of shit you need to learn apparently covers everything?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I delete my first comment because I specified what I meant in my reply.

    If you don't think doomers existed after the year 2000 then look up "2000 anxiety" and "2000 paranoia".

    But if I was really going to double down this would by my response:

    Many countries invested little to no money in Y2K and they were fine.

    Countries such as South Korea, Italy, and Russia invested little to nothing in Y2K remediation,yet had the same negligible Y2K problems as countries that spent enormous sums of money. Western countries anticipated such severe problems in Russia that many issued travel advisories and evacuated non-essential staff.

    International Data Corporation estimated that the US might have wasted $40 billion.

    Then I would ask you:

    Since you are such an expert on Y2K, what would've happened if the US took the same approach? What exactly would have happened?

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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    I was on board with this article until they described all the power fantasies that techbros were having as facts. AI isn't going to kill us because it grows sentient and "gets ahold of nuclear codes"; AI will kill us through sheer, painful, ecological collapse as Techbros seek to scale their models ever larger with more datacenters. Either that, or the economy collapses first, killing the tech (and likely the Techbros), and leaving us to ecological collapse anyways because of 200 years of industrial ratfuckery on a planetary scale.

    AI won't kill us because it's smart, it'll kill us because it's so, SO dumb.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    Because they're fucking idiots and hype men...

    They want people to believe this is true, so that they panic buy in.

    This is reminiscent of tobacco execs saying tobacco doesn't cause cancer. They're not "experts" they're paid shills who will say anything to make the stick price go up.

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago

    Are these AI Experts in the room with us now?

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Why fear artificial intelligence when natural stupidity is so much more powerful?

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Right. If I had dumped all my money into AI stonks and was overall deeply invested into silicon valley I'd sell the doomer story, too. Keeps the bubble alive.

    Meanwhile the REAL threat of the AI hype, i.e. overburdening ecosystems with ridiculously hungry data centers and putting children's sanity in the hands of a hallucinating sycophantic autofill can be entirely ignored because "AGI BAD SO WE MUST BUILD AGI".

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not about "AI stonks" really. If one genuinely believes that AGI will be the end of us then any form of retirement savings are just waste of time.

    I really think that most investors aren't as hyped about AI stocks as the anti-AI crowd online wants us to believe. They may have increased the weight of their investments on the tech sector but the vast majority of investors are aware of the risk of not diversifying your portfolio and if you're someone with actual wealth you can invest then they're probably not putting it all on Open AI.

    The recent drop in AI stocks that was in the news a week or two back doesn't even register on the value of my portfolio even though nearly all of the top companies on it are tech companies.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I'm sorry, you lost me at...

    but the vast majority of investors are aware of the risk of not diversifying your portfolio

    The vast majority of investors, myself included, are ... not that savvy. I only sorted diversification this year and I'm still tech-heavy but we all are just eating what's on our plates and available.

    I don't believe these markets will have humanity's interests at heart, either.

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    It also doesn't seem to have much of an upside.

    As the robots break down your defences and prepare to incinerate you you look around smugly and say "thank God I don't have any retirement savings".

    Meanwhile in a parallel universe you are living in 2050 on social care payments. While everyone around you is taking trips to the moon.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Incorrect. They just know that the fake financial system is not linked to anything fundamental. That is what is going to collapse taking retirement savings with it.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago*

    What's all that nonsense about what's his face tidying up his affairs because he thinks AI is going to kill us all.

    If it is going to kill us all I don't think updating your will is going to have any effect on anything. Such obvious hype, it's ridiculous.

    "Our product is so amazingly brilliant it'll probably kill everyone everywhere" is exactly the kind of marketing that appeals to bosses.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Just ask it how many Rs are in blueberry, and run away while it has to think about it a while.

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    Or useless old people will be turned in to a soylent green to feed the working meat slaves.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    So it's a race then, between AI's killing us thru high-tech malice, and we killing ourselves thru the same old stupidity?

    "And may the best man win!"

    Wow, that 55 year-old movie "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colossus:_The_Forbin_Project" is getting scarier to watch!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I'd like to say this isn't true for my kid, but then he did buy that hot new Corvette...

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    [–] 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    This AI stuff really is just a tech sect

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    These people are so convinced of their superiority they’ve looped back around to pure idiocy. They’re so smart, they’ve created their own vengeful god. And if you don’t believe in it, you’ll get what’s coming to you. Just you wait til GPT-666 is released.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    There's the rub. AI isn't going kill us. LLMs certainly aren't going to. But, humans will certainly kill humanity. And it is not going to be quick and certainly not painless. But eventually, it is going to be pretty inevitable.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 year ago

    if the ai experts think ai is gonna kill us. they are not experts they are delusional.

    the only way it'll get us, is from using up our water and adding to climate change.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It is so weird that American techbros have generated their own little universe of heroes and villains that all fight each other but are clearly written by the same guy so they all ultimately support the same set of values and worldviews that clearly make no sense outside the one guys' mind.

    Gotta say, Silicon Valley's writer is a complete hack and these effective altruism idiots aren't worth the ink any more than their supervillain counterparts are. The whole simplistic extrapolation to infinity nonsense is exhausting and pointless.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I am so much more worried about climate change or nuclear war being the killers. I presume AI experts are probably going through the same psychosis and such that anyone else who regularly uses it is going through.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

    AI is a digital set of instructions that can be written on paper. Biological brains are analog, by contrast, and there is currently no reason to think that digital computation can produce subjectivity.  

    That’s good and bad. 

    It’s good, because our approach to artificial intelligence (putting a lot of processing power into a Rube Goldberg machine) cannot “come alive.” Such a machine is like a calculator, unmotivated and inert.

    That’s bad, because it will ALWAYS do what people tell it to do, the way a printer will print whatever you tell it to print. Such an intelligence will never develop normative understanding (or morality), never know that it is alive, because it is an inanimate process.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Correction: humans using AI will kill us, not AI itself.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago*

    How big is the intersection between "AI Experts" and rich assholes? My guess is that it is large.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Were they researching sci-fi?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I want a kiss from ai wifu on the lips before disintegration also if possible my dick in her usb port . 3.5mm will be enough

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    AI has not been invented yet. LLMs are not intelligent.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    Climate change will kill us most likely.

    We will probably be the last generation that lived lives of relative peace.

    If we don't stop all emissions as well as retroactively remove all the emissions we put in the system then it will eventually kill us. This is going to keep spiraling out of control until the oceans acidify, followed by the death of almost all large animal life.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Turns out you don't need religion to suffer from religious hysteria.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    im not saving for retirement because im a broke tranny and i can't be sure i won't be disappeared

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago
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    [–] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child)

    As weird as this sound as a sales pitch, this is a sales pitch. This is just AI hype and nothing else. The only way AI is gonna kill us all is if we put it in charge of absolutely everything and it will accidentally kill us all by its sheer incompetence because AI is not AI, it's just a bunch of glorified algorithm strapped together with molten shit and duct tape.

    These tech bros are just high on their own fucking copium, imagining that fucking Skynet is about to happen, when they at best just built Wheatley. AI is not gonna kill us all. We're quite fine on that front. However, these tech bros and capitalists making the decisions will.

    Still, though, they might be right on not saving for their retirement if they continue doing these kinds of shit, because... Well, right now data centers for hallucination machines have prioritized access to water over people, it's taking away jobs left and right, it's scamming people... Let's just say, I'm afraid (I hope) people may "lose patience" eventually. 🙃

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Well, we'll have to see how things progress, but AI has already been integrated to a certain extent, so removing it will cause problems or inefficiency.

    Although the hype on both sides has become more tiresome.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    rookies

    i gave up saving for retirement when it became clear we were going to do fuck all about climate change

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

    Seriously. Even if an AI gets "nuclear codes" how the fuck are they going to jump into an air gapped system with about a 60th of the CPU cycles and RAM they need to operate? This doomerism is fucking unhinged and literally requires pretending that AI can somehow just jump into any old computer and that we totally don't have massive server farms just to have them function at all with high-level computers supporting them with high speed CPUs and massive amounts of RAM and storage. They don't have a fucking body, for one thing, and for two no current iterations do anything at all like thinking, they all have to he prompted. They don't start conversations on their own.

    It's so fucking stupid, it's the fantasies of childish fucking nerds.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    I am not worried abou the launch codes, I'm worried some incompetent middle manager will replace key staff at a water treatment plant or something (because the CEO told them to put AI somewhere or be fired). Then the fucking AI will have a meltdown after it reads data 10 times in a row and will poison the water supply of millions. Nobody will catch it because quality control analysis was also replaced by the same AI and it decided to delete the alert system for some reason (it had to do something, that is how it works).

    I'm not worried about AI being good, I'm worried about the people that think it is good (which already proves they are stupid af) giving it a shot at anything critical

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    AI resource usage and waste heat is literally killing the single one planet we’re all living on, so yes.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    We dont even need AI to kill us all. We were doing that just fine on our own.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    God please let ai do it efficiently. Fucjing bullet for everyone's noggin and be done with it, way more humane than this shit.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Good. Maybe the tech oligarchs will actually start distributing their wealth now.

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