Coming from a man, Woman's hair products come across as such a scam.
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As a guy with long curly hair, it is not that simple.
I get natural C curls from just one wash a week, no fuss. truly blessed
also has fuckall to do with gender
True, when I plan well enough it's glorious: shower the night before, CG shampoo bar + stay in conditioner and I can just run my fingers trough my hair to style it the day after
When I shower before an event it's a very thin line between too frizzy or too greasy and flat.
My brother spent a week using dog shampoo because he forgot to buy new shampoo. Hair looked the same
I prefer those too as the regular soap based shampoo leaves my hair very dry and electrostatic, and my scalp flaking. Well, I use baby shampoo, but dog shampoo is chemically almost the same.
Bold of you to assume the top half of my head still grows hair.
Am girl. I don’t find that the kind of shampoos and conditioners really matter. I buy all kinds of volume ones for example, and there’s barely any difference. It’s more the styling that comes after. Getting a haircut that works for your hair helps too
Also I think a lot of guys are just blessed with thicker hair!
As a man who used to have long hair for decades, this is just wrong. But also, usually using more than one shampoo + one conditioner is not going to make much difference.
Part of the solution is actually not washing your hair too much, or using too much product.
Your scalp naturally produces a lot of oils etc to keep your hair healthy, and shampoo actually removes this to an extent. Conditioner helps, but it's not the same.
Relevant Screaming Trees:

I nearly lost you there
(Also, bring back 90s hair!)
It never left, been rocking waist length hair since the 90s, that guy has short hair compared to me.
It's always kind of amused me how grunge rock was marketed as a fresh air alternative to hair bands, and yet ... everybody still featured long hair.
Counterpoint: look at any rock band from the 1970s to see what just plain washing with shampoo (very occasionally, apparently) produces. If they ever invent time travel, I'm going to let everybody else handle killing baby hitler (and baby cheetoh I suppose) and go back to the '70s with some conditioner. I will rule the rock world!
Edit: I might also try at least mentioning to people how fucked up it was that these guys were raping 14-year-old girls all the time (and sometimes the same 14-year-old girl).
It's mainly to do with longer and seldom cut hair being a lot harder to keep healthy than shorter and often cut hair is.
Being a man or woman doesn't directly dictate the quality of one's hair, rather in the current cultural environment it influences how long one's hair is likely to be allowed to get before it's cut (and how much it gets cut) which in turn influences how healthy one's hair naturally is.
Then there's also the whole concern with one's external appearence which again in present day culture is also different in average for men and women, with the latter under more social pressure to look well groomed.
Plenty of guys out there with long hair have to go to a lot of trouble to make it look healthy when they actually try to.
Length and type of hair is what matters. Men with a typical short haircut with straight hair do not benefit from conditioner.
As a man with straight hair that is usually on the shorter side I can tell you I get a distinct difference between shampoo only, and shampoo then conditioner. I get a similar effect from 2 in 1 that I just use that... I notice a benefit from 2 applications though (people will actively comment on how soft it looks and ask if I did something different), it is diminished after 2 though.
I try to only wash my hair a few times a week though when it feels too greasy (longer it gets the quicker this happens) and water isn't enough, usually don't bother with the double wash though.
Yes, it certainly isn't universally true that not all short hair needs conditioner but it is more universally true that long hair does which is why women have more hair products.
Dishwashing liquid? That’s just good bedhead.
Well, technically, good bedhead is something much more satisfying, but I hope y’all get my drift.
For me it didn’t matter what I used, until I tried growing it out and trying long hair. Frizzy hair horrors, until I figured out what hair care process worked for me.
I literally don't use soap or conditioner in my hair except right before I get it cut. They are always like "wow! You have such healthy hair!" Your hair will take care of itself.
I never expected there were so many other long haired men here secretly dealing with hair issues! I thought I'd been dealing with this alone the last few years since I decided to stop buzzcutting myself. Now I wish we had a more active hair community. Not necessarily male only, as this post seems to show we have "human hair" and not "guy hair" or "girl hair."
The amount of upvotes this boomer shit has is just fucking embarrassing. Gender has absolutely zero impact on hair. It's all genetics. I'm male and my hair is long and thin as fuck.
Hormones can play a role as well. Anecdotally, my wife's hair during pregnancy became fuller and less brittle. Duckduckgo "pregnancy hair". A monthly cycle, being on hormonal birth control, etc. will likely have some effect. I definitely agree that genetics does play a bigger role, but claiming that gender/sex plays no role is definitely incorrect.
Cool. Joke is "men dont buy products so they use shit at hand".
So, still boomer humor based on manufactured gender division. Cool.
Can I share this in !Womensstuff@piefed.blahaj.zone
Why do people put so much energy into projecting identity politics on a superfluous detail like hair? Who cares? It's all just a vanity concern, selfishly obsessed with what others think about how you look.
Does your hair make you have some intrinsic identity to others that you are or are not going for? Fuck you, I don't care.
Do you authentically care, yourself?
Maybe you care about the politics - I can understand that. There is legitimate fear around legislating serious, dangerous things to your identity (not hair). Why the fuck are you spending your time and energy on hair???
dayummmm take a breath lol, its just a dumb meme
Do you care about your appearance in any capacity or do you just roll out of bed and go on with your day?
If so, why the fuck are you spending your time and energy on your appearance?
I do, of course. I even do my hair. I didn't mean to imply that one should not care about it hygienically, just for your own health and personal self image.
I just don't understand the urge to thrust gender identity onto hair style and then argue about what that means to the polity online.
Yeah, men also don't have long hair. Women use proper shampoo because they have long hair which has to stay in good condition for way longer.
"men don't have long hair" 😂
You've never been to a metal concert, huh?
Ok I'll bite.
Men with long hair either have shit hair, like I did when I had long hair, or they use multiple shampoos and conditioners, like my metal friends do.
Lets not do this gatekeeping shit.
Genetics and other factors play a roll. I have long hair and am male. I use a cheap shampoo 3 times a week and a conditioner once a month. I find the most important thing is brushing regularly to keep it looking good and spread the natural oils around.
I use one nice conditioner and my hair is great. You have absolutely zero clue.
i use 2 in 1, and my hair (long) genuinely is too silky for any non professional tool
What's this got to do with gender though? It's not the hair, but the product which differentiates. "Woman's" products are a scam, in every single category. Especially "woman's only" products like tampons etc...
How are tampons a scam? Especially in the context of hair products?
gendered products are scams, tampons are actually toxic, plus insanely expensive, which they don't need to be.
tampons are actually toxic, plus insanely expensive,
That's a scandal, not just a scam. But tampons are actually a necessity for many women who are not comfortable with other period products.
I see your point with many gendered products like pink kinder surprise that cost more than the regular or an unnecessary bunch of hair products marketed gendered.
But the way you delivered your example in this context was not well phrased.
Yeah maybe, these topics make me sad and I don't really like to indulge in them. So I don't spend time thinking about my arguments, but generally, period products are way overpriced, and often use chemicals proven to be harmful.
I get your point. But allow me to brighten your day: 20 Places Around the World Where Governments Provide Free Period Products
gendered products are scams
Yeah, how can you make gendered products for a gendered problem‽‽‽
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