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There's always a white guy who really fucks with
keeping the fire going and I respect that

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[–] 98 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Of course I know him. He’s me!

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  • [–] 157 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    There's something really cathartic about placing shit in a firepit and just watching it burn away.

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    [–] 52 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It's all good until you experience a fire where there's two of them.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Lol, depends on the group. I was recently at an sca event and had a fire going with another tender, and we worked great keeping the fire stoked and we're super chill about it. We even helped each other reset the stack as it collapsed and more fuel was added.

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  • [–] 46 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I feel like it's a do-or-die caveman instinct or something.

    I was hanging out with a group of people in my friend's backyard. We were supposed to have a bonfire, but the wood was wet and wasn't burning. We used all sorts of fuel, fire starters, etc. I saw what looked like corner of a log turn into ember, so wouldn't give up. Never got a flame when we were there, of course.

    I felt very proud though when my friend sent me door camera footage of the firepit turning into a massive blaze in the middle of night that woke her up.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Wet wood is the worst. If you have some dry and some wet you can sort of power through it. A cabin we were at with a wood burning fireplace had a lot of wet wood. It kept popping and scaring us so we kept making that joke from The Office "the fire is shooting at us!"

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  • [–] 36 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Brown guy here, I like fire too

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  • [–] 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I went to an engineering school and I am here to tell you that pyromancy is practiced by every type of person.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    The best pyromancy comes from the United States, we have such classics as The German Barbeque, Korean Barbeque, Vietnam Barbeque, and California.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    Yeah, whats the deal with "white guy"? Guys like fucking with fire. Black, white, brown, blue. If theres an alien species on the other side of the galaxy, you can bet they have something very much like guys, and the love fucking with fire.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 44 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    sorry you had to find out this way

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    who do you think gave you the skin

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    I was a white man for decades

    I feel like someone's gotta ask: Are you no longer a white man?

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  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Probably a trans woman? From the name and Fed instance.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My take is that 'violetsoftness' just seems like a feminine username. So if you used to identify as male but now use that username, I also guessed trans woman. The name itself doesn't necessarily make me think trans, just fem.

    For whatever it's worth, I think it's a great name! It gives a nice, friendly vibe, like you would be fun to hang out with.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago* (4 children)

    As someone else who was a white man for decades, ever started a fire from sratch ?

    I've done it once. Pain in the ass, but the sense of accomplishment you get from starting a fire with nothing but kindling, some sticks, and a boot lace is amazing.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago*

    I don't know why, I just have to keep poking that fucker with the dedicated poking stick, then wave the burning poking stick around for a bit.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago

    In my experience, they’ve been Mexican or Puerto Rican. Though those are my two main travel destinations, so there might be some selection bias. Both for me and the meme

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago

    I know a set of brothers who all have this ingrained. They have each said at one point or another "You gotta fuck the fire."

    Hope the intent has/will always be basic firepit maintenance.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago (22 children)

    I didn't know it was a racial trait.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    White people's ancestors had to survive brutal winters. It's the reason they're white.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    Ehhhh, even places like the Sahara can get below freezing temps at night. Of course we also shouldn't forget that people native to the Asian steppe and American high plains would also need to deal with freezing temps. I just think that it's a human trait in general to need to mess with fires. (That probably stems from a vast amount of people on earth being able to trace their heritage back to the Mongols)

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago (17 children)

    Yeah, like why does race need to be involved here? Fire should be for everyone to enjoy.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Outdoor recreation and camping was and still sort of is exclusionary to black folks especially, but there's a lot of people trying to change that

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I live in the UK so I don't think this really applies here. If you are not going out and touching grass, its on you. Not the colour of your skin.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Yes I think there are some differences between racism in the UK and the US

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I am curious now, how does race stop someone touching grass in the US?

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    I see that. But where lies the joke exactly? My interpretation is that this white dude barely knows what he's doing, like constantly moving the wood. To me is more like set it up, and watch it burn. Then, from time to time, you add another log.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    I mean, there's no way of knowing with any certainty from this image alone whether or not the guy is tending the fire competently...

    But it is actually not as simple as 'just throw on another log'.

    How long do you want the fire to burn?

    How hot do you want the fire to burn?

    Do you have an accelerant, or no?

    Is your timber and kindling very dry or very wet?

    Is your timber and kindling going to need to burn through bark or not?

    How sappy is your timber and kindling?

    How hot or cold or windy is it, is it expected to become?

    All these things and more can and do affect the initial layout of the campfire, how to adjust it and maintain it to keep it going at the rate and intensity you want it to, especially if the desired goal state of the fire changes, and/or environmental conditions change or are expected to change significantly.

    ...

    Anyway, the 'joke' could be more or less racially based.

    I'd say yeah, you probably are more likely to find a random white guy that uh... knows all the stuff I just previously said, but thats because a random white guy (in the US, at least) is more likely to have come from a family that could afford camping trips, could send their kids to the scouts or something.

    (This is basically the same root behind the 'black people don't know how to swim' uh, 'joke'.)

    (Yep, turns out you're more likely to learn how to swim if your parents could afford to / were not segregated out of living in a community with access to pools or beaches)

    Again though, there's no real way from the given context to determine... whether or not the image was made by someone aware of this, and is referencing that...

    ... or if they're just making a very basic, pithy, uninformed, surface level observation...

    or somewhere in between this.

    ...

    There could also be an element of sexism to the 'joke', if you interperet 'and I respect that' as completely sarcastic, sort of going along with your interpretation.

    'Oh, clearly this dude doesn't know what he's doing, he's just trying to look like he knows what he's doing.'

    ...

    So yeah, if your 'joke' is possibly racist, possibly sexist, unclear about whether or not it actually is, and generally illicits confusion when it is described or explained as a joke...

    Then uh, I agree with you, its not a very good joke.

    ...

    Also, to perhaps clarify younger / more modern slang:

    'really fucks with', to maybe a millenial or older, would mean that you keep consistently interfering with or engaging with some person or process or activity.

    But! To Gen Z / A, 'really fucks with' is closer to... 'spends their time' or 'engages at all' or even 'is seriously dedicated to'.

    Like if I asked a Gen A if they knew person A, they could respond, 'No, I don't really fuck with person A'.

    And that would basically mean that they don't know them that well, or at all.

    Whereas if a millenial or older person said 'I don't really fuck with person A'... that would be more like a denial of bullying or harassing them.

    The Gen Z/A usage of 'fucks with' is much more morally/intent neutral, wheras the Millenial/Older usage is more morally/intent negative.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    Thanks a lot :) There's always a lemmy user who really fucks with explaining a meme and I respect that <3

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago*

    no cap man fr fr, gotta recognize the w's when you get em, appreciate you gassin' me up!

    low key, you gotta lay off that brainrot addiction a bit, replace it with just a dash, a little sprinkle of linguistic hyperfixation, as well as healthy downtime, contemplation, and then a lot of those jokes and memes? they just hit different.

    (uh, uh, ok, imagine this comment also overlay bordered with subway surfers or something)

    (up to you to determine if the meta irony of that is intentional or not)

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I’m the one obsessively scavenging for wood around the camp site to keep that wood pile healthy.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I got the largest kelly kettle because loads of friends said they would be interested in using it as a group. This was like 3 or so years ago and since I got it absolutely no one has been interested in actually going outside. So I recently bought the smallest one now as I am only ever using it on my own, may as well get something easier to carry.

    Shame that I don't know anyone else interested in it though, don't even have to go camping, just a day/afternoon trip or even just sit on the beach, but even that doesn't get any interest.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Evolved trait

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  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    DONT HATE it’s all he’s got

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Well, technically without him there would be no fire.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Sabre-tooth tigers might sneak up and attack if the fire goes out, at least, I've not been attacked by one when the fire is burning, so I just can't take the risk.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    This is a white thing? I never knew that.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago

    my girlfriend is that guy. she can't sit down at a fire. she always has to be poking at it lol

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    That's 100% my brother. The weirdest part, it looks so much like him I had to text him and ask if the chick in the background is an old girlfriend, because I'm genuinely not sure that's not my brother.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Really not trying to be rude.

    I don’t have TikTok and don’t want one. I want to be a part of online stuff such as this story you’re telling. But.

    TikTok is fucking cancer on a phone/device that doesn’t have an account and doesn’t (therefore) have the app installed.

    Popups of all forms. Just like sketchy websites. It’s just a red flag. That’s all.

    These experiences really reinforce my decision to NOT have a TikTok.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    100% agree. Fucking hate tiktok. Even beyond the data they collect and shit, how skeezy they are about watching the videos makes them so shitty.

    That said, open it in a browser and then set to desktop site it you're on mobile. It allows it to play without the popups. Mobile browser tiktok feels like a late 90s porn site with the popups

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago*

    It is insane how much that dude looks like my brother. He even has the exact same shirt and shoes. Like I genuinely thought some random picture of him had been put online. When I texted him about it he had to text his best friend to find out if the chick in the picture was maybe one of the friends old girlfriends or something he'd forgotten about. Even my brother thought it was a picture of him. Lol

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    This is the campfire equivalent of that one person who makes best friends with the family dog at every party. Some of us enjoy the group but our social skills are only on par with fires and dogs.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 year ago

    I kind of get that way but I've never really realized it was obsessive behavior until this meme pointed it out.

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