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[–] 153 points 1 year ago (7 children)

"The Lunatic Left strikes again!"

I can't believe the amount of propaganda that floods USA society. Right-wingers genuinely don't believe their side is violent and dangerous because of shitbags like Trump and Musk.

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  • [–] 61 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Citizens United spelled the final nail in the coffin.

    It should come as no surprise that with the

    • Decentralization of media,
    • The massive rise in wealth inequality and number of billionaires,
    • Deregulation of money as speech,
    • And foreign interference from Russia, Israel, China, etc. muddying the waters...

    ... And finally, combined with

    • Eroding education standards
    • Distancing of parents from their children
    • Widespread mental disorders and substance addiction and sometimes literal brain damage (lead poisoning, head trauma from football, etc.)

    ... That intellectualism is losing the race. These people live in completely alternate realities. Principals of religious faith have now fully been incorporated into political ideology. Once untethered from reason, it's all about what you want to believe.

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  • [–] 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's not that they don't believe their side is violent.

    They believe their violence is justified. It's everyone else that is wrong.

    It's a subtle but important distinction because they will gladly accept violence for their ends. They already have during January 6th.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    My trump supporting father says that any violence committed on Jan 6 was secretly conducted by ANTIFA or the feds to make trump look bad.

    That said though they do like violence from their side just look at how they react to protestors being run over but that's OK because they were committing the horrific crime of blocking the road

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    You're right. I should revise my statement to say that they don't consider themselves violent compared to "the Left" (by which they mean libs, who they think are socialist communists because they're completely brainwashed). They don't have a coherent understanding of modern politics beyond picking a side and shouting loudest.

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  • [–] 68 points 1 year ago

    Aren't the anti-vaxxers in charge?

    Y'all I think these anti-science terrorists might not be as smart as they look. And that's saying something.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    That's why I don't talk to antovaxxers. They are crazy

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I have an antivax coworker who is also virulently anti-immigrant. Her main reason for being anti-immigrant is that she thinks immigrants are unvaccinated and bring diseases into this country. When she told me this I was too busy looking for my jaw on the ground to try and argue with her. She is exactly as unpleasant and ugly as you would imagine.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (5 children)

    That's smart.The probability any given antivaxxer might end up shooting you is still low, but I'd wager it's several orders of magnitude higher than if you disagreed with any other type of person on a similar subject.

    I try to get in real good with the antivaxxers in my life, just in case. Like the people who thank AI.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    it’s much less lower than the odds of getting murdered by a cop because you spoke to them.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    How do you know? You never been to Texas and Florida where many antovaxxers also carry guns? They are short fused and they hate to be corrected.

    When you see a crazy person walking down the street, you just want to stay away from them

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    odds are formed after knowledge is had - tell me the last time you saw news of an antivax murder spree? Compare that to how often we hear of cops murdering during “no knock” raids. or traffic stops. or protests. or because they confused pistol and taser… etc.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago

    Stochastic terrorism is a form of political violence instigated by hostile public rhetoric directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished with indirect, vague or coded language, which grants the instigator plausible deniability for any associated violence.

     A key element of stochastic terrorism is the use of media for propagation, where the person carrying out the violence may not have direct connection to any other users of violent rhetoric.

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  • [–] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Was the shooter white or other? I just want to know how much effort will put into the consequences.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Amazing wanting to kill people for wanting people to not die of disease.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Sickness is health… War is peace… Ignorance is strength…

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    It was Biden, wasn't it? No? Obama, then? No? Hillary? Bill? Pelosi? Who was it? Anti-Vaxxer?

    Nah, didn't happen, fake news. If it happened, why isn't it on the news? I didn't see it on the news.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Shit! They are shooting their own now?

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)
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    Cop was black, married father of two with another on the way and had been on the force less than a year.

    Imma ask the ACAB gods for a qualified exemption in this case. That’s tragic.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago
    [+] -17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

    neat. and what else happened in the news today?

    edit to be clear for the bootlickers downvoting: nothing of value was lost.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    I'm curious, in your worldview, should the shooter be left alone, talked down by de-escalation experts, or stopped by "good" cops flown in from a socialist country?

    Or maybe we first eliminate guns from our culture and properly vet and train police officers, then we see if the active shooter is still going.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    what does socialism have to do with this? yes, a cop is still an armed wing of an authoritarian gov, and they can also stop an unhinged shooter. two things can be true or happen at the same time.

    i own plenty of guns. i am not anti gun. i am anti authoritarian.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I feel like you're dodging the question. How should society deal with a shooter on a spree? Armed anti-authoritarians step in instead of the police? Vigilantism comes with many problems of its own and really isn't an answer to authoritarianism.

    If you think it should be stopped by police, why cheer that one was killed doing what he was supposed to do?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (9 children)

    Fascist in power.

    And the left still want to give up their arms.

    The fuck is wrong with you all.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    this leftist does not want to give up arms. what makes you think “the left” wants that? not to “scotsman” this but no actual leftist would want to give up arms; they are necessary in various ways.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Who are you considering the left then? Cause you're arguing semantics right now. Which does nothing to help get out of this fascist nightmare.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    anarchists, actual communists, and cohorts of that sort. not liberals. not democrats.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So an even smaller subset, a tiny fraction of the population falls into that mix.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    and? your point is? a cop died operating against a mentally ill person with access to a weapon. a cop who was paid by the same system who firebombs entire US city blocks because there is a “bad guy” there.

    nothing. of. value. was. lost.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    My point was the people who are the left in this country, are not armed. You've gone off onto some other tangent that has nothing to do with my statement. You're version of the left is tiny, the left in this country is mainly dem voters and they're not armed.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    It's not the left, it's liberals. They've always wanted to disarm the left. The idea of armed unions, other leftists, or black people in general make liberals terrified. That's why all major gun legislation in the history of our country has been aimed at those groups.

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