So, I guess we can safely assume that all the redacted names in those files, refer to Trump?
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Why does everyone continue to use the past tense? Do you really think that the day Epstein was arrested he was suddenly reformed? It only seems obvious that he still does.
Probably more sexually assaults kids as I don't they make ED medication strong enough to get any blood flow to his crippled chicken mcnugget.
To paraphrase Mitch Hedberg: “He used to rape kids. He still rapes kids, but he used to, too.”
I'm pretty sure he isn't able to anymore
Even Viagra has its limits and he isn't in a good physical condition as well.
Maybe I'm just trying to find some peace in my mind here...
I mean, the courts ruled that he raped E. Jean Carroll, even without penile insertion. The legal definition of rape largely depends on where the crime is committed; In some jurisdictions, it requires PiV sex. In others, it can be as simple as unwanted intimate contact.
The judge in that case clarified that even though he was “only” found liable for sexual battery, what he did (groping her breasts and inserting his fingers into her vagina without her consent) would colloquially be known as rape. Even though it didn’t fit the strict legal definition for the jurisdiction (which required penile insertion) the average layperson would still consider his act to be rape. This clarification was after he tried to sue her for defamation, when she publicly said she won the rape case against him.
Why do you think Ivanka stepped back this time around? Arabella turned 14 a couple weeks ago.
He probably only gets the privilege these days when he goes to Russia. Watched too closely otherwise.
...there are times to dehumanize people, this is one of them...this is a monster, not a human being, who has built an empire of monsters, counting on us calling them human beings...
Yeah I tried to make that argument a few weeks ago. It didn't go over too well. But yeah he's a bloated corpse.
...were you the one i heard screaming in 2005 that "W" was setting the stage for american fascism with the appointment of S. Alito?...
No. Don't flinch on this. A human is doing this, and a human can do it again. There are no consequences for a beast in the woods. We do not hold a bear accountable for his actions. As soon as we think it's only monsters who are capable of monstrosity, we turn it into a simple matter of defending against a threat from without, but the danger is in our midst. A human is doing this, and we have to hold that human accountable.
Exactly. One of the biggest takeaways from holocaust education is that people worked tirelessly to cause it, and even more people stood by and did nothing while it happened. Monstrous people worked to cause it, but they were people nonetheless. And that means it could happen again, if people get complacent.
And the same could be said here too. They may be monstrous for raping kids, but calling them monsters works to dehumanize them. It dismisses the actions as part of their nature, which dismisses the intent they have. They’re people. People did this. People will continue to do this. And that means the public should do everything they can to hold these people accountable.
...no, the humans are following the monster, this is not human behaviour, the humans have decided that this monster is human...
This is human behavior. Being selfish and tearing down everything you don't understand, grabbing power with both hands and using it for your own enrichment, abusing and treating people as disposable, and lying to get more of all of it no matter who it hurts has been human behavior for a very long time. And following it because you think that you can use it, or that you can snap up the scraps that fall from the table, or just because you believe it? That's human, too. It's not good, but it's something that the human race has always been capable of. We see all of both of these things in the oldest documents we have.
If it's possible to ever grow beyond that as a species, we have to recognize it as a part of us so that we can fight it even when it's not imminent; if it's something outside of us, we only have to react to it when it wanders out of the woods. But it's within us; we have to act before it rears its head and devours us.
Trump loves making everything about himself, so I'll do him a favour: assume every redacted name is Trump.
Hope Americans are ready to protest their asses off when he pardons Maxwell.
They moved her today to a minimum security facility in Texas. No one will comment on why.
Hope Americans are ready to protest their asses off when he pardons Maxwell.
Guillotines remove heads, not asses.
I've been at work guys. Drawing connections and charting dates and shit: Intelligence Summary: The Epstein Network - An Evidence-Based Assessment Subject: An analysis of the operational structure, methodology, and influence of the network surrounding the late Jeffrey Epstein, based on verifiable documentary and testimonial evidence.
- A Sophisticated, Multi-decade Criminal Enterprise Existed. Hard Evidence: Criminal convictions of Jeffrey Epstein (2008) and Ghislaine Maxwell (2021); numerous civil lawsuits; and sworn, corroborating testimony from dozens of victims. Conclusion: At a minimum, a long-running, international sex trafficking ring targeting minors existed. It was not a chaotic or opportunistic enterprise, but a highly organized one with a clear command structure ([[Jeffrey Epstein]], [[Ghislaine Maxwell]]), dedicated infrastructure ([[The Lolita Express (Flight Logs & Associated Travel)|private jet]], multiple properties), and a network of recruiters.
- The Enterprise's Primary Function Was Access to and Compromise of the Global Elite. Hard Evidence: The unredacted flight logs of Epstein's private jet and his "black book" of contacts. Conclusion: These documents irrefutably place a stunning number of the world's most powerful people from diverse, intersecting fields directly within the operational theater of this criminal enterprise. Politics: U.S. Presidents ([[Bill Clinton]], [[Donald Trump]]), a UK Royal ([[Prince Andrew]]), an Israeli Prime Minister ([[Ehud Barak]]), and a U.S. Senate Majority Leader ([[George J. Mitchell]]). Finance & Tech: Billionaires with immense global influence ([[Leslie Wexner]], [[Bill Gates]], [[Leon Black]]). Academia: The world's most famous scientist ([[Stephen Hawking]]) and leaders from its top institutions ([[Harvard University]], [[MIT]]). Analysis: The sheer caliber and diversity of these individuals is statistically impossible for a common criminal. The network was not merely a criminal enterprise; it was a system of elite compromise. Its primary product was not sex; it was access and leverage.
- The Enterprise Was Funded by a Major Wall Street Financier. Hard Evidence: Legal documents, real estate records, and public statements by [[Leslie Wexner]]. Conclusion: The initial, immense wealth that funded the entire operation—including the [[The New York City Townhouse (9 East 71st Street)|NYC townhouse]] and the private jet—came directly from Wexner, who granted Epstein an unprecedented power of attorney. This financial relationship is the documented starting point of the enterprise's expansion. Further funding is documented via massive, post-conviction payments from financiers like [[Leon Black]].
- The Enterprise Operated with State-Level Protection. Hard Evidence: The 2008 federal Non-Prosecution Agreement (NPA) negotiated by U.S. Attorney [[Alexander Acosta]]. Conclusion: The terms of the NPA—its secrecy, its violation of victims' rights, and its sweeping immunity clause for all co-conspirators—are an anomaly in the U.S. justice system. Acosta's subsequent, on-the-record statement that he was told Epstein "belonged to intelligence" is the most direct piece of evidence from a government official that the enterprise was a protected intelligence operation. Supporting Evidence: The highly suspicious circumstances of Epstein's death while in the custody of the Federal Bureau of Prisons, under the oversight of Attorney General [[William Barr]], strongly suggest a deliberate act of silencing to protect the network's secrets.
- The Enterprise Had Deep, Verifiable Ties to Foreign Intelligence. Hard Evidence: The documented personal and business relationships between key players and known intelligence assets. Conclusion: The central role of [[Ghislaine Maxwell]], daughter of documented multi-agency spy [[Robert Maxwell]] (with deep ties to [[Mossad]]), is the primary link. This, combined with Epstein's documented business partnership with [[Ehud Barak]] (former Israeli PM and head of military intelligence), creates a powerful, evidence-based vector pointing toward the involvement of Israeli intelligence. Overall Conclusion Based on Hard Evidence: Disregarding any speculation on ultimate motive, the verifiable evidence leads to a single, rational conclusion: The Jeffrey Epstein network was not a private sex trafficking ring. It was a sophisticated, multi-decade, and exceptionally well-funded intelligence operation that was protected at the highest levels of the U.S. government. Its primary function was to systematically compromise the world's most powerful political, financial, and intellectual figures. While its full roster of principals and state sponsors remains officially unknown, the evidence trail points directly toward a nexus of Wall Street finance, U.S. "Deep State" actors, and foreign intelligence agencies, particularly Israel's Mossad.
So now when people read the Epstein lists and documents, and a name is blacked out, everyone assumes its Trump.
I'm not sure if this is a better look for rapist and sex trafficker Donald J Trump.
Every new update that isn't releasing the full unredacted files is an admission of guilt.
I still don't get why this has picked up so much steam lately. All this info came out years ago and it was widely known at the time. We've had a de facto admission of guilt for ages but for some reason we've all decided to talk about it like we're just learning about it now.
The leaked Epstein files are inadmissible in court. These versions would be usable. And redacting them means they can't be used against Trump, even though we all know he's on it, since we have seen the originals. The official ones are way more important because they can be used. So their coming out has actual legal repercussions, and not just social repercussions.
And I also think there are more files than what leaked. So we won't have seen the originals of some of the upcoming redacted ones.
It's all because his Attorney General was asked if she would release the files and she said, yep, they're on my desk for review.
Not long before that, the administration was bragging about having them in hand, photo op and all, and saying that heads, presumably Democratic heads, would soon roll. SUDDENLY! Yeah, not releasing them, nothing to see here.
A lot of Trump voters are into the conspiracy theories around Epstein, and a few months ago the DOJ made a big deal of giving some right-wing influencers "phase one" of the Epstein files, which turned out to be mostly stuff that was already out. Last month, the DOJ and FBI put out a memo saying that no more documents will be released and that there is no Epstein client list, despite the Attorney General previously saying it was on her desk. MAGA didn't take that well, and Trump has been trying very hard to distract people from it.
Think everyone is beyond caring about optics. That ship sailed long ago when people voted for the known pussy grabber. Would just be good to have an actual legal case that could maybe just maybe get rid of this asswipe. Nothing else sticks quite like a sex scandal. His horrendous abuse of the alien enemies act should have been more than enough to have him fully impeached for human rights abuse. This Epstein stuff could have teeth, as society tends to not let this stuff slide.
Nah, MAGA isn't beyond caring on this subject. As you said, it could have teeth. Conservatives have been winding their base up over pedophilia for nearly 20 years. Want to vilify someone? Pedo! Plus, plenty of nuts seems to have believed the Pizzagate thing, were frothing at the mouth.
The problem for them being that all prominent MAGATS are in the files.
Kill Trump. Murder him and drag his bloated corpse through the streets.
Go 1790 French on this bag of shit.
Whoa. Wow. Can we calm down a bit here... drag him through the streets first THEN move on to the murdering. Make him suffer like all the little kids that he raped suffered.
There’s also the option of treating him like Mussolini 👀
Nah, I’m here for some Bolton Ramsey depraved kinda shit for Trump. Start by peeling the skin off his fingertip for a preview, then skin the rest of him as slowly as possible. Turn him upside down so the blood flow keeps him conscious for longer, even. Broadcast the spectacle on national television.
Ha. The “resistance” won’t even block traffic because it’s “so disruptive.”
They live next door to MAGA trash and do nothing.
Nobody’s taking out Trump- Americans won’t even stand up to their neighbors.
Say it louder. I'm sure Trump wants everyone to know his name has been removed from all the many, many instances it shows up in the pedophile ring master files.
good job america you elected a president so that your tax dollars can be used for saving pedophiles instead of doing science and what not.
its not like people dont already know hes on the list, he was epsteins most frequent client, that people notices him very easily.
What they're not mentioning here is, Epstein's island hadn't been either bought or renovated yet. There was no island to go to at the time of his flights.
Records have shown that Trump took at least eight flights on Epstein's private jet between 1993 and 1997, but they were between New York and Florida.
Edit: Epstein bought it in 1998 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saint_James%2C_U.S._Virgin_Islands
Damn, very interesting. They must have had a rape mansion in the meantime.
Surprised the administration and MAGA hasn't trotted this out yet.
Well then, I’d think he’d be rushing to release the files fully and transparently if they proved his innocence. What’s that, he’s doing the opposite…
What are you implying?
That trump doesn't show up in any rape island shit because epstein hadn't bought the island yet. It's hard to know when they had their falling out. These articles imply that he wasn't at the island, but I'm saying that that doesn't exonerate him. He was on the rape plane a lot.
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