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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

He should be allowed to keep it. Just got to pay sticker price for it.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Yeah, fuck the Emoluments Clause.

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  • [–] 101 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Even if the plane itself was "free", they are voting to make a $1B gift (the cost to retrofit the plane) from tax money to one guy personally?

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  • [–] 94 points 1 year ago (14 children)

    isn't any gift received by the president property of the government? or so i gathered from watching the west wing 😆

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  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    So much of our government worked on the idea that nobody would be brazen enough to break convention, and the untested belief that voters would immediately and vehemently reject anyone trying to openly abuse their power.

    We now know both of those assumptions were wrong.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    It was gifted to his presidential library. So no. Only Trump can use it. Pretty fucked up huh?

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    But it's going to cost around 1 billion to renovate by our tax dollars.

    Hey Doge! I think you can cut some waste right here!

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. It's either a gift to him, and it's his problem to take care of, or a gift to the government, and their problem.

    When you get elected president your car(s) doesn't suddenly get overhauled with bullet proof glass and security features paid for by the government. You hop in a government provided vehicle, and when you leave (outside of specific instances and time frames) you hop back in your normal car and live your life. Sure the secret service is around for things, but George Bush buys a truck from dealership, it doesn't get taken to a military installation and reworked with our taxes.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Ex-presidents are banned from driving unless they have declined secret service protection.

    And their properties are renovated at taxpayer expense to add secure communications, guardhouses, helipads and covered space for vehicles.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    Biden, Bush, and Obama drive. Trump's the only one that doesn't. Actually Biden drove during his presidency, but only on enclosed areas I believe.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    This is a really good case for sabotaging the retrofit. Slow it wwwwaaaaaayyyyy doooowwwnnn, and do all the merely cosmetic tacky gilt stuff first. Once he retires, the protective shielding and communications and weaponry won't be necessary anymore. And he won't care, as long as it looks lavish enough.

    Also I think we really need to start using "retires" rather than "leaves office." Or "goes private" if it seems like he doesn't want to feel old enough for retirement. We have to make it seem like something he'd want. If we really made it appealing he'd quit early, because he's sure the fuck not doing this job for the sake of the nation.

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  • [–] 71 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Emoluments clause? No? Anyone? Anyone?

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

    Technically that right there would make it ok if the house passes the same. But my God, if we're going to use that qualifier to let the president have something from a foreign state did it have to be a fucking 747?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago* (1 child)

    This vote was against an amendment to a bill that would ban him from keeping it. Not a grant to do so.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Good to know! Something like this should absolutely be impeachable (I know lots of things should be, but this is one of the most clear IMO) and with a little luck things will change after 2026

    I know, I can dream...

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  • [–] 66 points 1 year ago* (11 children)

    I guess it's encouraging that they think he'll ever be leaving office alive.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    Everyone has been put under a normalization spell, the trauma was too intense too long. I tried explaining to another liberal my fears about this term's version of the January 6 insurrection, he looked at me like I was crazy. People are trained to believe the ping-pong will go on forever, save and easy.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    We're spoiled from having peaceful transfers of power for so long. It Can't Happen Here.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Peaceful transfers of power? You had a civil war over the transfer of power a century and a half ago, and "transfers of power" via assassination are common enough for the President to be the most dangerous job in your country. The "Can't Happen Here" is due to a constant flood of exceptionalist propaganda; it has nothing to do with your track record.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    “That’s not gunna happen!”

    “None of it was ‘gunna happen’ and it just kept right happening anyway!”

    They say it’s our thumbs and big brains that are our super power but I swear, our ability to pretend like everything is fine despite overwhelming evidence is something truly incredible.

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  • [–] 59 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 129 points 1 year ago (27 children)

    Well, he's never going to leave the Oval Office at the end of this term, so the point is kind of moot.

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  • [–] 39 points 1 year ago (24 children)

    He might have to leave bcz he doesn't know who he is. Trust me on this one, dude is barely lucid most days. If he croaks before the end of his term, it'll be a good day for USA'ians. Even if it doesn't fix the problem entirely, he's a shit stain on the human race.

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (13 children)

    Reminder that Dick Cheney is still alive. Kissinger also lived to be a 100.

    Evil seems to have a way to sustain certain people far beyond what would seem natural for most others.

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  • [–] 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)
  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Is it possible to learn this power?

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    All you have to do, is to embrace narcissism.

    Not even kidding. I think it causes a placebo effect that allows nasty people to live far longer than they should.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    The "secret" is not stressing about anyone other than yourself. That's it. That's the whole deal. The problem is that you're either born this way (narcissist) or you become this way trough 'training' (sociopathy). The default human setting is actually empathy though, although modern life has done a great job of obfuscating this over the last few decades.

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  • [–] -2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    If he croaks before the end of his term, it'll be a good day for USA'ians

    You're a fucking idiot. Don't underestimate Vance or the people pulling his strings.

    Trump only cares about himself. Vance actively and passionately hates you.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    You're a fucking idiot.

    Yeah, uhm, well, im not, so there's that.

    Even if it doesn't fix the problem entirely, he's a shit stain on the human race.

    Second, I never said it would fix the problem... see above and read comments in their entirety before insulting people's intelligence and telling them how much more dangerous everyone else is. As if I dont know Trump isnt the one calling the shots... 🙄

    Edit: We are all on the same team here. Calling people names and being a dick isnt helping anything.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I agree with you that there is a significant chance J.D. Vance would do more to harm the US and the World than Trump ever could, you don't have to be such a jerk about it. Being right doesn't give you permission to be mean.

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  • [–] 40 points 1 year ago

    Oh so they all admit it IS A FUCKING BRIBE THEN? GODDAMNIT FUCK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE SLIMY FUCKS

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    "Emolument"? You sound gay and your shit's all retarded

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No one could have seen this coming. We’re such a clown show.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Banana republic

    A banana republic is a country with an economy of state capitalism, where the country is operated as a private commercial enterprise for the exclusive profit of the ruling class. Typically, a banana republic has a society of extremely stratified social classes, usually a large impoverished working class and a ruling class plutocracy, composed of the business, political, and military elites.The ruling class controls the primary sector of the economy by exploiting labor.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Trump is the king of leeching off the government. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago

    It’s hard to believe the US has come to this. Fucking crazy.

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  • [–] 33 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Murdoch's age is just insane. His fucking father was a stain on humanity during fucking WWI, and that dude was already in his 30s at the time.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh but they does. Keith Murdoch (Rupert's father) was born in 1885 so was 29 at the outbreak of WWI. Rupert (literally Keith Rupert Murdoch) was born in 1931 when his father was 46.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I'm curious to know who is going to pay to keep it airworthy, if DT does leave office? Those things aren't cheap to maintain.

    If he leaves office he won't be in a position to grant political favours to friends.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Lmao. Hey, republican voters? Are you watching? How much longer can you hold out? He is a crook, lied to you and is now destroying the country. Wake tf up.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    That's a white elephant gift.

    If he's still around, maintenance on that thing isn't gonna be affordable

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    Russia, if you're listening...

    MA 117 47

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  • [–] 13 points 1 year ago

    They should force him to repay the money being spent to renovate the plane.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago

    It's a money pit.

    What he should do is SAY he spent the money on the airplane but REALLY put the money in his back pocket.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Are there not laws that determine gifts and compensation for the President that would be broken here? And if not, why not?

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The people who write the laws are saying they are OK with this. The law doesn't mean much when the corrupt have the pen and paper.

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  • A lot of what Trump does that he shouldn't be able to, he'd be able to if congress said OK.

    The fact they even bothered to say OK here is kind of surprising given they haven't bothered on other things and just let him do it anyway.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Is there really a more corrupt country in the world, we know Russia, Ukraine used to be (maybe still is ), and I'm sure many others that we think it believe to be corrupt, but when really looking at what is going in in America I think they top the cake. Yeah I'm sure they spin it so it has a justified reason but I think that's all smoke and mirrors.

    They need to be added to some type of list.

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