Sen. Markwayne Mullin tried to blame former President Barack Obama for Jeffrey Epstein‘s 2008 plea deal, despite Obama not being president at the time.

Mullin made the comments while being interviewed by Jake Tapper on CNN’s State of the Union on Sunday. First, Tapper and Mullin debated over whether the attorney general has the ability to release documents related to the Epstein investigation, with Mullin insisting that only judges have the ability to make that information public and Tapper arguing that there is additional information that Attorney General Pam Bondi could — and has promised to — release, yet she has not done so.

Then Mullin made a bizarre claim that Epstein struck a deal in Florida in 2009, under President Obama. But that is factually incorrect, as Tapper pointed out.

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[–] 1 point 1 year ago

Who gave Harvey Weinstein a cattleman hat and a Senate seat?

Fucking Oklahoma, goddamnit.

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  • [–] 201 points 1 year ago (15 children)

    Boy, these people really want us to forget about Bush.

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  • [–] 144 points 1 year ago (11 children)

    No they’re trying to make Epstein a democrat problem.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    Ghislaine Maxwell's testimony to Trump's DoJ definitely doesn't mean she'll soon be swearing it was only Democrats and Donald's political enemies (and maybe sacrificial Republicans) that abused and trafficked children with Epstein... Then, a surprise pardon will suddenly reward her in the future. Mark my words.

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  • [+] -23 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Well, the democrats were trying to become the party of Bush so I guess they kind of both want the same thing.

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  • [–] 25 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Both sides are the same is such a lazy thought.

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  • [+] -11 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    I didn't say they're the same. Have you already forgotten that the Harris campaign literally paraded around members of the Bush administration?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    No I just don’t care much because Harris would have been a great president regardless who her friends are.

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  • [–] -4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I'm not disagreeing with that. She surely would have been vastly better than the current president. It's too bad the DNC paraded around those Bush admins and lost the election. She had so much momentum until they toned down her more progressive message.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    She got all the votes from the progressives it was the center-right members of the party that didn’t show up to vote which tells me that they didn’t lean right enough.

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  • [–] 28 points 1 year ago

    They just want every intolerable thing Republicans do to be misremembered as something done by a Democrat. Witness so many chyrons on Fox News mislabeling a GOP pol as (D) when they were forced to talk about some current scandal.

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  • [–] 60 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Oh, it's just Markwayne - the guy whose name accurately screams "I'm a dumb hick".

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  • [–] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    What a fucking embarrassment. Christ.

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  • [–] 31 points 1 year ago (8 children)

    Mullin is one of the dumbest people ever elected to congress, and that's saying something.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Some people say he and Boebert share a brain cell like 2 orange kittens. Only 1 can have it at a time.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    As @Flow pointed out, Louis Gohmert is part of the litter too. As is John Kennedy.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 year ago

    It doesn’t matter if it’s a lie, the key is to repeat it.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Look at the little guy and his little hat. Precious.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago

    This the idiot hick who wanted to fight the Teamsters guy in a committee meeting?

    Yeah. Seems like a real genius.

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  • [–] 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

    A few weeks ago I had to correct someone on Lemmy who was blaming Obama for the "great recession". The comment even had a bunch of up votes.

    Other people proceeded to also argue with me that Obama, who was sworn in on Jan 20th 2009, was responsible for the Great recession that started December 2007.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Though Obama did team up with Bush to ensure the banks that caused it were bailed out quickly. This happened sometime around nov or dec 2008, after Obama had been elected but before he was sworn in.

    And it was changes made during the Clinton presidency that allowed so many high risk mortgages to exist in the first place.

    Not sure if the approval to bundle them together and call them lower risk was a Bush era thing or came from before that.

    But even if the timing of the recession had started in 2009, it would have been something Obama inherited from Bush and Clinton. He only controlled his response to it (which wasn't great, as that money was used to allow banks to pay bonuses and buy up foreclosed properties while people laid off for no fault of their own lost their homes).

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (3 children)

    He only controlled his response to it (which wasn’t great, as that money was used to allow banks to pay bonuses and buy up foreclosed properties while people laid off for no fault of their own lost their homes).

    That 'not great' response prevented the complete and imminent collapse of the entire global economy. I'm not sure what the phenomenon of discounting the much worse outcome is once it is avoided, but I'm pretty sure it has a name.

    It's the same phenomenon that has people say that the covid crisis was overblown and vaccination was unnecessary because it subsided on its own, ignoring the impact that billions of people getting vaccinated had.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 year ago

    That's a bit hyperbolic. Certainly a lot of big players in the financial industry would not exist anymore and a lot of rich people would have gone bankrupt, but for the majority of people, it would not have looked much different than doing nothing.

    What should have happened is, instead of giving free money to the banks, the bad loans should have been paid off through a forgiveness program. That would have saved both the banks and regular people and wouldn't have given the banks cover to make up fraudulent liens to steal people's homes.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Though it was one of the least responsible ways to save it: handing a blank check to the ones that made the bad gambles in the first place. They didn't even have anyone go and look at what was being done with it. It might have been one of the biggest wealth transfers in history. Plus it set a precedent that the government will step in to limit risk, which encourages more of this shit.

    Though at least they didn't do the same to bail out the shortsellers that were getting squeezed for GME and those other meme stocks a few years back (which could have also broken the economy). There was fuckery, but it wasn't "the taxpayers will pay your bills when you lose big while you proportionally pay less than most of them when you do win".

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    They should have made any bank bailout contingent on nationalization. That was the big mistake.

    Is your bank insolvent to the point that it needs emergency federal assistance? Is it so grand that letting your Tower of Babel collapse endangers the entire nation? Do we the taxpayers have a guns to ours heads here, forcing us to give out these bailouts? All to clean up the mess left behind by overpaid, overconfident, completely incompetent bank executives?

    If so? Fine. A bailout will be given to protect the customers and the nation, but the existing shareholders are completely wiped out. The feds take ownership of the bank. They divide the accounts and remaining assets of the megabank up amongst a dozen smaller new banks it creates as a replacement for the failed giant. The Federal Reserve provides credit to the new banks as they get started. Eventually, when they stabilize, the government holds IPOs for the new banks and completely divests ownership of them.

    THAT is how bank bailouts should work. This way, moral hazard is avoided, the government isn't fleeced, and market consolidation is reversed all in one go.

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  • [–] 18 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Are we also ignoring that the AG that have Epstein the plea deal was Secretary of Labor under trump?

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Of course it's twofirstnames mullin. Dude is pure scum.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Denying the truth and rewriting history is tmright out of 1984. All they lack is the enforcement part where if anyone disagrees with the rewrite, they would get black bagged.

    Oh, didn't ICE just get more funding then most military

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  • [–] 5 points 1 year ago

    Gotta be like China to compete with China.
    Soon there will be dates you cannot speak of. Children working in factories. One political party. (Problem is we don’t export anything.)

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Guys, he was the secret president before he was the real president!

    -This jackass

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    This is what happens when you run as an R only. Oklahomans don't care about who or what is on the ballot. If it has a -R, then that's the ticket!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    it’s sad how many people will just blindly believe this shit, despite all these things being explicitly documented and dated. very telling of the intelligence of the population

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  • [+] 38 points 1 year ago (9 children)
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    That's just unrealistic.

    It'd take some kind of constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms and something about well regulating a militia. Probably framed in terms of security of the union or something.

    Then maybe these fascists might be kept in check.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)
  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Doesn't change that he's right.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    how that would be achieved in a country of this size

    That's why the civil war never happened. The country was too big for them to travel anywhere. And everyone was too scared that they would lose the comforts they did have, to risk changing anything for other people...

    Yes @grue@lemmy.world is yelling SO loud. OW!

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    I've heard of having two first names. But two first names concatenated to make a first name? I'd say that's new except "Markwayne" wasn't exactly born yesterday.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago

    His idiot redneck parents couldn’t decide on Mark or Wayne. The rotten apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Fkn hillbillies.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Why would he admit it? The MAGA base loves the lies. Why tell the truth if that would cause MAGAs to get mad and possibly not vote for you?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    You thought he was a man, but he was a Mullin…

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That hat sure makes him look extra brokeback.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    I will never get over this guy's name being Markwayne. It just screams ignorant redneck. His name alone should have reason enough to ban him from holding office.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This guy is a tool and all, but shitting on double first names is pretty ignorant. Is an old tradition that kind stuck in many places in the south US.

    I know a lot of really smart and progressive southerners with double first names.

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