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[–] 1 point 1 year ago (1 child)

Having out of the box settings doesn't hurt though. If you set Mint correctly it's almost the same.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    If there is one that runs SF6 I want that one.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago* (3 children)

    Any, then. https://www.protondb.com/app/1364780

    Usually distros don't affect game compatibility

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago* (2 children)
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    I actually wanted to run Ubuntu and then Fedora, but they both kept breaking out of nowhere. I don't know get why people have a more stable experience than I do with these, I don't even fucking tinker and fuck with shit.

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  • [–] 393 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 37 points 1 year ago* (2 children)

    I think the whole works part is the most important part, Linux can be janky (and by that I mean obsolete information and deprecated or outdated packages are often recommended and there are a thousand different ways to do anything with only one of them actually working (don't have an aneurysm)) on the best of days, If something just works you can change what you want later.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    This is why I switched to Mint. It just works. It's broken less than vanilla Ubuntu did. So thats what I use.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 year ago

    Yeah. Generally when I'm using a Linux PC to work on something, I don't want to be fixing the PC itself too. And we make an embedded Linux product at work, so it's not like I miss out on the fun, lol.

    I use Mint everywhere. It works great. Being easier for newcomers to use and having an extra layer of polish does not restrict my use of the command line or scripting.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • [–] 67 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    Um, acktually some of us went from vanilla Debian to Nobara to vanilla Debian.

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  • [–] 43 points 1 year ago (6 children)
  • [–] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    A vegan, crossfit, arch user walks into a bar. Which do they tell you about first?

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    What does the Oracle say today?

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  • [–] 38 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    Debian since 1998. No reason to change.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    that should be their mission statement.

    Use Debian. No good reason to change.

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  • [+] 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 child)
  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago*

    Same. Tried bazzite, works fine, but immutable was annoying me for things like getting openvpn3 working (or anything involving more direct kernel stuff). Still use bazzite on my kid's pc and my laptop but switched to fedora for my desktop and it's been just right.

    Ubuntu and Canonical can fuck allllllll the way off. If I had to go back to a dpkg based distro it'd have to be Debian bleeding edge... and honestly I'd probably bite the bullet and try Arch instead just because of Debian's release lag.

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  • [–] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (33 children)

    Legitimate question as I'm gonna move from Windows 10 within the next couple months. Is there something wrong with Bazzite or Nobara? I had narrowed my decision down to those two since they seem to be an easy transition, they do the things I need, and they're popular enough that I can probably find fixes to any issues I experience. I pushed off my plan to build a desktop, but I still have an aging laptop that is losing security support in a couple of months.

    Also, my wife needs Excel specifically for school. Can Excel work on these distros or are there just good alternatives? She might need to keep a Windows 10 partition just for Excel stuff if she can't run it in Bazzite or whatever she picks.

    Edit:
    Thanks everybody for responses! School is not flexible about using Excel specifically, and she has to share her screen during exams to show that she's just using regular Excel. It's not a hill we're willing to die on lol.
    We aren't super interested in doing anything beyond gaming and basic browsing type stuff with our computers, so I'm not sure that Bazzite being immutable really means anything to us. There were some good tips like a /home partition to easily swap distros when needed without losing everything, plus some people pointed out that some of these distros come and go over time so it would be harder to find fixes and continue getting updates if we get too entrenched in something that won't be around much longer.
    Overall, I don't think we'll be too picky. We just want a pretty simple process to get something that's like an unbloated Windows, and we don't want to rip our hair out looking for a new distro and starting over every six months. Most people are not power users. I can do pretty much all of my computer stuff on my phone and all of my gaming on my PlayStation, so I really won't notice the difference between most of these recommendations probably.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I went with Nobara because it's pretty much Fedora + gaming related fixes. Meaning every Fedora guide out there works and Fedora on its own is pretty user friendly.

    Excel, as in Microsoft Excel might be a problem. If she needs something Excel-like, the default LibreOffice stuff is very capable, but it's not 100% compatible, really depends on what she needs. The online Office 365 thing might also be enough.

    As for the Windows partition, a simple virtual machine might be enough and you don't have to reboot the PC every time you need to open an Excel file.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Honestly, most people keep a Windows partition anyway. I have one for Fusion 360 which intermittently stops working in Bottles.

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  • [–] 21 points 1 year ago

    I landed on Mint because it's a simple no fuss distro that feels familiar to Windows refugees. I game on it just fine and use my computer for a lot of things so wanted something general. I bounced off Ubuntu because it has some decisions that are trying to protect you from actually learning Linux, which is a priority to me.

    As a professional spreadsheet pusher, I can confidently say that LibreOffice (the Linux version of MS Office) has been able to do everything I needed that word/excel can, and then some.

    But really any distro will be able to install the software you need, and it's easy to switch. Just try it and have fun.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago

    Nothing wrong with them, surely better than Ubuntu, despite the meme.

    I went from Nobara to Bazzite and it feels way more polished, although the immutable thing may not be for everyone

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  • [–] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

    Those distros are fine, I haven't heard anything bad about them. The only distros I wouldn't recommend are Ububtu and Manjaro (I can explain why if you want).

    About Excel, it doesn't work on Linux unfortunately. But you have some options. You can try LibreOffice and OnlyOffice (you can install them on Windows to try them out before switching) and see if they're enough for your needs. There's also a web version of Excel which you can use in your browser but it doesn't have all the features. If you really need Excel, you can also try using a virtual machine with Windows and run it inside of that but dual booting might be easier for you at that point.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Another option for Excel is running it using Wine. A lot of Windows games run on Wine, which also means that things like Excel run well too.

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  • From what I understand MS Office is notorious for not working well at all in Wine. The only ones thst I have seen evidence of running consistently in Wine are older ones like Office 2000-2007. 20-some year old products are probably simply not current enough to be useful.

    I think the better bet would be dual booting or better yet virtualization.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 year ago

    From what I understand, it's still an excellent choice. It's well supported and decent for new users.

    Can you look into if the online version of Excel works for your wife? That might simplify your install. Libre Office and OnlyOffice are decent alternatives, but they might not map 1:1 with the instructions she gets from school.

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  • Bazzite is an immutable distro, and it expects you to install all your programs through containers. Not all software works with these containers, but like 99.9999% does. I'm a weirdo who wants the deepest of hardware monitoring tools and many of them don't work with these containers. I haven't used Nobara yet but it doesn't appear to be immutable and based on regular Fedora so it shouldn't have those issues.

    excel

    It may run through wine, and I'd test that out before fully committing. Worst case if that's the ONLY thing you need you could do a VM. But would the cloud (web) version of office work for her? If you're already paying for office 365 then I believe you get it included.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago*

    Bazzite is fantastic, but because the system is immutable, you can’t just install packages like you can with other distros. This makes it very stable and very secure, but it also means you need to take extra steps if you want to get creative with your system. If you are already familiar with Docker and containers, then you can do anything you want that way, if there isn’t already a flatpak available. As a last resort, you can also use rpm-ostree to create new layers, but if you go that route you need to understand how to use ostree since eventually you will need to fix those layers manually.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    The main reason why I would steer newcomers away from the likes of Bazzite or Nobara is because I don't think they're going to last long. CachyOS has sprung up just as I was starting to hear less and less about Nobara. They get trendy as THE distro for newbies to install because it has a gimmick or two aimed at newcomers, which will inevitably get rolled into the mainstream, fixed, rendered obsolete or otherwise dealt with in the mainstream within a couple years anyway, then it's off to the next one.

    Who here remembers PeppermintOS being the hottest thing?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    I'm not familiar with the above distros, but I'm pretty certain there's more people on Ubuntu which helps a lot with troubleshooting and finding solutions online. One option is, when installing any Linux OS, is to create a separate partition for "home/". that way, you can reinstall any other Linux based OS, and keep most of your files installed.

    Excel doesn't work on Linux, but LibreOffice and Google sheets do.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Both are great, as is Fedora, the one that both are based on.

    Nobara had some issues updating correctly for me, but I haven’t seen anyone else express that, so I don’t think it’s a common thing.

    Bazzite is really gaming focused, so it’s harder to do general purpose computing on it than a desktop OS.

    But they are both great OSes, and really you should just try out a bunch of them and pick the one you like the most. They’re free after all.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    Nobara had some issues updating correctly for me, but I haven’t seen anyone else express that

    This is why I stopped using it. I could never find anyone else with the same issue or any advice on it either. Glad to find out it wasn't just me after all

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago*

    I usually get downvoted for this since it's not open source, but WPS Office is free and basically an exact ms office clone. I use it regularly moving files between my work laptop with windows

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  • [–] -1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

    I've had Bazzite break its own update utility such that it needed manual intervention at least 3 times now. I see no point in a "just works" distro that doesn't actually just work.

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    One of the breakages was caused by an expired signature or something from Universal Blue, which hit all users. I'm surprised that one doesn't get talked about more. One of them was caused by Bazzite changing how Steam itself is handled and not transitioning my system over properly. Can't remember what the third one was caused by.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (4 children)

    Thanks for clarifying!

    One of the breakages was caused by an expired signature or something from Universal Blue, which hit all users. I'm surprised that one doesn't get talked about more.

    Yeah, this was a big one. Though, I have to give them credit for how they handled the situation. I believe a lot of other projects got a lot to learn from them in that aspect.

    One of them was caused by Bazzite changing how Steam itself is handled and not transitioning my system over properly.

    Was this the transition from the (so-called) bazzite-arch distrobox to layering Steam into the image?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Was this the transition from the (so-called) bazzite-arch distrobox to layering Steam into the image?

    It likely was. Can't remember the details unfortunately.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (2 children)

    Alright, but you seem to be a (relatively) early adapter then. Do you still use it? Or have you pivoted since?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Hell no, I switched back to Arch so my system would stop breaking!

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    Makes sense. Thanks for enlightening your stance. FWIW, it has definitely been better since. But of course; however good it may have become right now, it does not take away your experience. Thankfully, you found your refuge in Arch 😜.

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  • [–] 17 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    I mean, LMDE is working out pretty nuke proof for my (humble) gaming rig.

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    I won't use Ubuntu Desktop now, but I used it for 6 years: 16 to 22, and loved it for many reasons. I left it for two reasons:

    1. Snaps
    2. Trying to get bridged networking going for VMs in Boxes ended up wrecking my network settings and I couldn't get them back to normal. With more expertise I could have probably fixed it, but I realised it's too easy to do things that I can't fix.

    So, I went to NixOS for the declarative setup. It's not always easy especially for niche cases , but at least I always have a working backup. Yes, there are other options, but I like NixOS so I plan to stick with it for now.

    My kids use Bazzite and I like that too.

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Mint because the name is fun

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  • [–] 16 points 1 year ago

    Ubuntu. The only distro I was able to kernel panic. Multiple times. It just doesn’t like power users.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 year ago

    Any rolling release will do, doesnt actually matter the flavor.

    Steam has been investing into Arch (btw) which is nice but really all you want is quick updates. Graphics drivers on other distros may not be updated quickly enough for you to enjoy the newest releases.

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  • [–] 30 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Fedora on the right tbh. Even when you chill and get wisdom Canonical and Snap are just a bit too far.

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  • [–] 29 points 1 year ago

    Mint, because Ubuntu Cinnamon sucks

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  • [–] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Using pop OS for 5 years. Never tried any other, never seen the need to. I picked at mostly random and don't really understand the differences.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago

    That is the thing of it. I started with Slackware. Then Debian and moved to ubuntu. I'm still using ubuntu. I've loaded up some other distros but they bring nothing definitive to the table. I've installed pop os and it works. If it had existed when I moved away from slackware I might have picked it. If you are using it and its working for you why bother changing.

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  • I used Mint for a good long while, but went to Fedora KDE for better Wayland support. KDE is quite different to Cinnamon, not sure I have the words to articulate how. It's fussier. The main difference about Fedora is package management, DNF is slower than APT, a lot less software is packaged as RPMs, and a lot of "we don't package it, you have to compile it" software offers no instructions for Fedora, and trying to translate the Debian/Ubuntu instructions practically always fails because the library they want you to install isn't there. So Fedora is Linux with less software.

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  • [–] 26 points 1 year ago
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    Never Ubuntu. Kubuntu is as close as I am willing to get, and even then I'd rather go for Mint or Debian.

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Ubuntu is just Debian with extra steps.... and snaps

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  • [–] 12 points 1 year ago

    Same but with plain Fedora on each side.

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