"all lives matter"

       —  the most racist person you know

Its not predation when both partners are consensually choosing a way they'd like to engage with eachother

Another point it is missing is that women facilitate toxic masculinity as well. Their friends, girlfriends, mothers, basically half of their social circles, can be enablers of that behaviour.

But you'll never hear it admitted that these people are part of the problem (and the solution)

I don't know. I don't seem to be actively discriminated by the post above.

And in my experience it's pretty true. I rarely meey another boy/man that understands women have been the target of oppression for centuries.

Sieze the means of reporduction... or something like that.

Yeah, I think thats part of what's frustrating to me about some of the comments- describing the ways in which men participate in or allow for the victimization of women doesn't preclude women can do harm or men can be harmed.

A lot more people read this as a personal attack than I expected. I get why people sometimes feel frustrated or defensive about the way men are painted with a broad stroke, but the post is really just about understanding the "ladder of enablement" nature of how harm happens to women, and thats a really important concept I feel the image does an extremely good job visualizing

Seriously. This is one of the toxic comment sections I've come across on this platform. Time to add a few more to the blocklist...

There's a lot of risk to intervening, you can easily be seen as evil.

The problem with this chart is individuals are variable. Right now person A can be on the right side of the bar, tomorrow they could be heroic.

We're all assholes sometimes, other times more heroic.

You know my family??

or are just approximating a population wide trend from a personal sized sample?

Cause odds are, no, 25% of the population isnt unfathomably evil, theyre caring hard working people like most the population.

Rapists do exist and are horrible people. Full stop. But arbitrarily defining random people as rapists doesn't seem to negatively impact these rapists, nor positively impact their victims - so any value in such an arbitrarily biased analysis seems moot to me.

And all of us move around the bar all the time.

Not the most evil kind, pretty sure about that.

Yeah. 🥲

I'm not lady butterfly nor is the person who posted it originally...?

Incidentally, that "men who passively enjoy/consume/encourage predation" bit is a lot more common than people think. Consider how many men are HUGE fans of japanimation. Now consider how much japanimation, even the stuff for children, contains casual SA as a way of saying "Hello"….

That's men who passively consume predation. And there's a LOT of them.

People don’t exist on the spectrum, the spectrum exists in all of us.