Saw this on women's stuff and didn't wanna engage cause that space isnt for me, but felt like this was a 10/10 post and wanted more people to see and think about it!

Feel free to cross post if you can think of broader communities where more people would be able to see it, this is just the comm that came to mind :)

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[–] 43 points 3 days ago (10 children)

That is not totally wrong, if you just replace "men" with "humans". As if women couldn't be unfathomably evil predators...

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  • [–] 18 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    Me when I minimise victims trauma cause they're not the right gender.

    Cause everyone knows the real problem with predators is gender right? /s

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  • [–] -5 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    No, it just has the exact same energy as saying "all lives matter" in response to a black lives matter movement.

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  • [–] 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    I can see how someone would have that perspective, and I agree with the sentiment. A portion of the predator population can use good intentions to their advantage.

    I just think its also valid to get the vibes of the "despite making up 13% of the population...." racist copypasta, because statistical manipulation isnt good nor evil - its simply inaccurate.

    I'm a bit bias here, but the inaccuracy of claiming any significant portion of the male gender are likely to become rapists has a negative impact on my community, the transfem community. The same argument that is used to excuse some rich white shithead gang assaulting women during homecoming, will be used to put 6"4 black trans women in male prisons.

    Its a weird place to be in, and makes it almost impossible to objectively define what's more important, catching a higher ratio of predators, or protecting a higher ratio of victims?

    Personally generally I think its more important to protect victims than attack predators, but I'll admit the paradox of inclusion does show how this idea can be a fallacy.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I'd like to add that a predator can be so much more than "just" a rapist. Obviously, in purely sexually driven rape, men dominate the field. But as soon as there's more to it than "just" short-term sexual gratification (control, hate, sadism...), the importance of gender/sex evaporates.

    Try to ask victims of slavery, pedophilia, ritual torture or whatever else unfathomable you could fathom, and women are probably equally ruthless and evil. And even if men would be over-represented, gender/sex would still not be a striking indicator.

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  • [–] -1 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    You got any studies on that other than a "probably"?

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  • [–] 0 points 1 day ago

    That "Probably" was more sarcastic even. No studies I could name handily, just years of personal experience in some kind of shelter for the abused and broken. I can drown you in stories you would not believe anyway. That's how i spend my sparetime.

    But besides that, why on earth should a silly gender/sex make a person evil or good? We're mostly the exact same human. Being evil is our inherent nature. We're not as beautiful of a species as we'd like to think. I try to do only good, yet i'm neither religious nor a woman. Am i broken? Am I not man enough? :)

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