Saw this on women's stuff and didn't wanna engage cause that space isnt for me, but felt like this was a 10/10 post and wanted more people to see and think about it!

Feel free to cross post if you can think of broader communities where more people would be able to see it, this is just the comm that came to mind :)

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[–] 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I'm not "angling" for any trend positive or negative. I'm not making any argument about people inexorably getting better or worse. George was just an example, I could have made a different one, where George becomes worse over time. I'm not saying data fits any trend, I never talked about data or trends or extrapolations, that's your own assumptions.

You seem unable or unwilling to distinguish three different propositions:

  1. A model permits individual improvement or deterioration.
  2. A particular hypothetical individual illustrates improvement.
  3. A population exhibits a systematic trend toward improvement.

All I argued for is the first, using the second as an example. You're persistently treating me as though I'm arguing the third. Why?

I'm only saying people can change. That's all, it's a really simple thing. I don't understand why you absolutely must pigeonhole me in some kind of angling for some unsaid implication and pushing some kind of agenda. I'm not. And I'm tired, boss.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    Fair enough, catch you in a different thread under nicer circumstances.

    Sorry I ran off with the worst interpretation of what you said, it just resonated really badly with me and in this world of careless assholes I wanted to pin it down to a concrete accusation.

    But it became more about me needing to be correct, rather than actually giving you the benefit of the doubt. I'm sorry

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