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“One of the best reasons to buy Roku was the themes and less ads than competitors. But they haven’t added any new themes in years aside from sponsored ones, and they increased the amount of ads,” a Reddit user posted this week in response to Roku’s loss of the Aquatic Life screensaver.

Using the Google TV operating system with Projectivy Launcher is a far more versatile solution than Roku.

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    [–] 156 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    Roku will automatically switch the Aquatic Life screensaver on affected devices to the Roku City screensaver, another popular animation that includes subtle advertisements, according to the user notice

    Ugh.

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  • [–] 106 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Surprise! They're not subtle.

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  • [–] 71 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Yeah, it's literal billboards that slowly pass in the cityscape, looking like a flat PNG pasted over it, not matching tone or theme in any way. It's not subtle in the least.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 days ago

    I have this screensaver enabled on my home TVs. One day I went to a restaurant and they had the same screensaver showing on some of it's TVs but they had these giant billboard ads scrolling by covering parts of the screensaver. That's the day I learned that AdGuard DNS blocks the billboards (not just the ad but the entire billboard).

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  • [–] 91 points 2 days ago

    Roku has been a poster child of enshittification for a long time. I struggle to think of any ways they could get worse. But I'm sure they'll think of something.

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  • [–] 45 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    Last month I took my Roku offline but let it connect to LAN so the Jellyfin app would work (for now until it gets too out of date probably). I knew Fox would fuck things up somehow and I was right sooner than expected.

    As an aside, it’s still connected to my pihole and for about a week it tried to send logging data to 2 different websites every 3 seconds for around a week. It was funny seeing my blocked percentage at 91.5%, even funnier that it’s programmed to give up.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    It probably gives up only not to accidentally DDOS their own telemetry servers

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Last time I put a Roku behind DNS filtering it just started spamming it's logging server because it couldn't make contact. I ended up just letting it through instead of going through the hassle of spoofing a response to make it shut up.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 days ago

    Piracy is the only moral choice when it comes to large services

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  • [–] 23 points 2 days ago

    Same fishtank screensaver as you might remember from the early 00s, in case you’re wondering.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    My nephew has a Roku in his bedroom for the screen saver. He’s severely autistic. He is not good with change. Losing those damn fish will be a HUGE problem in that house.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

    It already got the update and threw the warning and will flip it off by itself. I’m going to try and cavenga an old Pi or mini pc to run the OG screensaver version for him

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  • [–] 21 points 2 days ago

    CEOs are the dumbest pieces of shit on the planet. Roughly could have set up their own fish tank and recorded it for 10k and I'm inflating that number by about 9k. Then they would have owned it and paid no license at all

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  • [–] 17 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    I was curious what the reason was behind this. As good of time as any to setup some different streaming sticks/machines I guess. Anyone have any suggestions? FOSS is preferred.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago

    I know this goes against the fediverse but I pirate my shit via an outsourced (paid) plex provider [gasp] on an Apple TV box. The device itself is reliable and has no ads and has a very high spouse approval factor.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 child)

    Depends on your needs. If you just stream via Jellyfin/Plex I'd recommend Kodi+Linux on a raspberry pi or something. There are premade distributions like OSMC for this niche. If you need Netflix/Disney+ etc you're basically fucked on the FOSS front, the only option I know is either LineageOS's TV version though that isn't as well supported as the mobile version and there are some DRM shenanigans or just using Linux with a keyboard+mouse combo and a browser, though you will be limited by resolution. On the non FOSS front I have heard good things about the NVIDIA shield/apple tv though that is expensive, or using Windows with the native streaming apps and a frontend (eg Steam Big Picture).

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  • [–] 14 points 2 days ago

    Well, this explains it.

    I changed the screensaver to the fish tank because the default cityscape on has all those stupid ads plugged in.

    The other day, it had a banner that said the fishtank was being removed. I couldn't figure out why.

    I guess I will have to find a new streaming box? Sheesh.

    I had long ago blocked all telemetry at my edge network box for the whole house. Now I presume it will not be sufficient.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 days ago

    I went all in on Roku years ago because it worked so well with Plex. The menus and remotes were consistent across all the TVs, so nobody had to learn anything new. Now Fox will probably turn it into another advertising platform. This sucks.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago (8 children)

    Any not terrible alternatives that my parents will actually be able to use without me?

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    It's pricey but I have heard good things about Apple TV. I think someone else in the thread has a list of FOSS alternatives but you'd still have to set them up.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    The used ones aren’t too expensive and they last forever. But I have found the AppleTV to be kinda crappy for old people because it constantly updates and moves things around and interrupts what you wanted to do with some kind of screen after updates telling you some bullshit or asking you some bullshit and that can scare old people.

    But it’s still worth it, because there aren’t any fucking ads.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Reset the TV, don’t choose Internet during setup. Connect something like an AppleTV. In Roku settings, set the TV to automatically switch to the AppleTV on power up. The remote for the AppleTV box can be used to power on/off the tv and control volume.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago

    Support standing up, support Sachs at Serene Screen!

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    Roku used to be the safe haven from ecosystem lockin.

    Now with free-my-tv and other projects, this can be resolved.

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    I think that makes a bit of a dilemma. Which is better slop software with quality issues or proprietary closed source which could be running any number of malicious processes?

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    The problem is I don't know the answer! It's a case by case issue that takes real effort to resolve each time.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    Yep, samesies.

    My hate for slop battles the usefulness of some of the products.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago

    I'm flipping between this comment thread and another one about a tv that looks similar to mine saying it's out of storage with the discussion being about thee fact the storage has likely been filled with unsynced log files. I've been thinking about loading some custom slop firmware on my tv for a while now but I'd rather work on fun projects than have to ward off the onslaught of major corporations trying to abuse us.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    Wait, is it Fox Disney, or Fox News?

    I thought NewsCorp/Murdoch doesn't have ownership of MOST of Fox anymore, just Business, Sports, and News.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago

    Odroid-c4 with LineageOS has been my favorite streaming box. Just need to get a wireless remote with a dongle (non-bluetooth).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

    WTF a screensaver on a TV that requires money? Is this like a free money glitch for doing nothing? Just bundle a few free images, buy them at a reasonable price (not $80k/year) or tell your company photographer to take them.

    Also how often do you see a screensaver on a TV: Short answer almost never because a) you're watching stuff or b) you turn the device off

    Also who buys this Roku trash in the first place? Apple users? Just plugin a laptop/PC via HDMI & Co or slap some Android/Linux TV device/Raspberry with Kodi behind the TV.

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  • [–] 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    Also who buys this Roku trash in the first place? Apple users? Just plugin a laptop/PC via HDMI & Co or slap some Android/Linux TV device/Raspberry with Kodi behind the TV.

    Another lemmy user overestimating people's tech-savviness

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  • [–] -1 points 2 days ago* (1 child)

    overestimating people's tech-savviness

    > Be literally too stupid to setup your TV
    > TV removes your screensaver
    > TV spys on you
    > TV steals your soul
    > Best I can do is cry around on social media
    

    0 pity for those self harming people

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  • [–] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    Seriously! My wife is SO stupid! She can't even setup a TV to connect to a computer. I can't believe she refuses to learn how technology works after her 12 hour shifts at the hospital. Why are some people so focused on anything other than learning technology and then maintaining a setup that companies actively try to make more difficult to use? What a mindless consumer! /s

    Seriously an immature take. I think its easy, and am happy to do it for her. Not everyone has that privilege, and they should be able to complain online about anti-consumer practices without the friendly fire.

    eta: also, SELF-harming?? Pretty obvious the harm is coming directly from companies. If companies are going to say they "want to maintain a relationship with our customers", we can at least acknowledge that it's an abusive one and not victim blame lol

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  • [–] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

    I was in a meeting recently and the smart tv had a screensaver showing a 1950's-esque street scene sidescrolling and showing what looked like at least one text ad in the bacground.

    The new OOB experience.

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