Tbh I'm surprised no one else was killed. It was a fairly populated area it.

Idk. The pilot sounded like she knew and I can't get that out of my head. Adrenaline kicking in, slowing everything down, but knowing she had no more control and there was only one outcome.

Yeah, I listened to the entire exchange via vasaviation. Pretty rough to listen to, would not recommend.

Anti icing equipment built into the plane. That's accomplished via a few different methods. An important distinction is that deicing is removing ice that has already formed, where as anti-ice prevents new ice formation. Most deicing options are only able on the ground, so it's important to have anti ice up and running before major accumulations occur.

1. Hot air from within the engine (bleed air) is piped to areas needing heat. This is used a lot for wing leading edges.
2. Resistive electrical heating - essentially a space heater. Used for smaller components like pitot tubes and fed by the engine's generator.
3. Mechanical removal via deicing boot. Essentially an expandable section of wing that breaks up already formed ice. Not super common.
4. Chemical melting done via alcohol spray for windscreens or deice spray for the outer skin. Pretty straightforward.
5. Altitude change. Moving to warmer, dryer air layers can work to melt built up ice, or prevent new ice formation, respectively. Flying high can also help, since the low air pressure allows ice to sublimate.
6. Avoiding flying into icing conditions. This one seems kind of obvious, but it's worth saying.

According to the ATC recordings, the FO reported that they were using their anti ice. Unfortunately, anti ice can only handle so much, and it seems like they may have ended up in conditions that overwhelmed their ability to prevent it. They tried to go to a higher altitude to escape the icing, but it obviously came too late. Ultimately, that'll be for the NTSB to decide what the root causes were. Hopefully the FDR survived by some miracle.

I sincerely wish this was the case, I'm jealous, I have been trapped in a thought loop for at least 2 hours now about consciousness and existence and the incomprehensibility of what happens after one dies. I tried to go to bed early but I just kept panicking about the idea of my heart stopping in my sleep. I don't know what's happening but I shouldn't have listened to that audio

Nahhh it’s incredibly sad, but I did not find it to be particularly bad compared to a couple others that come to mind.

When the sounds come back to you after many years it will confirm you're normal.

ugh same, i got a slightly elevated heart rate for a minute or two but other than that nothing. like, intellectually i know it's a terrifying situation and i should feel empathic, but it just doesn't happen

Thats exactly why I'm not scared of the height on a plane. Im scared of tegular heights, skyscrapers and stuff, but high enough that you can't even make out cars from buses? I'm not really programmed to believe that's a real height.

It’s not that hard to give an ounce of respect for them and their loved ones.

Which is exactly why I'm advocating for the people celebrating this to listen to said audio.

I don't think anyone is celebrating the death of the pilots, I wonder if they knew the conditions were not good for flying but were forced to fly anyway

There's even a thread about it.

I don't know the details, just making a joke based on the other comment.

I listened to the audio. Always heartbreaking to hear people's distressing last words as they realize they are about to die.

I heard a professional in an impossible situation doing everything in their power to keep it together.

It's heartbreaking and powerful.

I hate that I know exactly which one you’re referring to. That and the call from the WTC stairwell are burned into my brain.

Many years later that brick video still randomly pops into my head and chokes me up

Perfection