Schumer is 76. He should retire. This is ridiculous, go out and enjoy your life. Advocate for AIPAC. Do something else.

Every time I get a text pretending to be from Shumer begging for donations I cringe at how many people just yelled fuck you at their phone. Doddering bastard.

No president leaves office popular enough to win a race for a Senate seat

Edit: *in our modern era, for the pedants

He could probably win a seat on Tuesday if they announced it today lol

It's so ridiculous saying moderate candidate would look less radical next to her, there is nothing radical about AOC, Bernie, El-Sayid, Mamdani, yet here you are carrying the enemy's water and showing how biased they made you by describing them as radical, when you don't have to at all.

I get what your saying is meaning the voters, but my point is how is making sure people have healthcare, quality education, clean air & water, radical? The rich have done such a masterful job brainwashing the shit out of our society over the centuries of disinformation and religious indoctrination.

Nah. Retiring after a presidency is a tradition, not a law. Hit them while you have momentum from midterms (hopefully).

Then if she still wants anything to do with this trash fire she can just go back to being senator.

What they say and what's true aren't really the same when it comes to politicians.

The last Democratic president was a centrist who won the primary over a very well respected and credible, experienced, white male who was simply further to the left.

We can argue about it more, but I think you are just overestimating the “will of the voters.” I campaigned for Bernie in the primaries and then watched the boomers around me nominate Biden. I no longer have any illusions about the rest of the voters, but you apparently do.

The thing is, there's "national DSA" they're the ones who didn't endorse AOC and are apparently full of Maoists...

Then there's a shit ton of "local" DSA's, and the one in NYC kept endorsing her.

The national seems to want to latch onto to the popularity of anyone remotely socialist, and then if that politician doesn't do everything the Maoists want, they try to co-opt their popularity and throw them under the bus.

Anyways, that's how you end up with "the DSA" doing great things, and doing absolutely mindless shit like telling people AOC is conservative and people shouldn't vote.

It's not one solid organization. And large parts of it are run by idiots

with the left

Buddy...

In 1978 the CCP split from Maoists, because the Maoists were too extreme

Do you have any idea how many people died because of Maoism?

Jung Chang and Jon Halliday contend that implementation of Maoist thought in China was responsible for as many as 70 million deaths during peacetime,[118] with the Cultural Revolution, the Anti-Rightist Campaign of 1957–1958,[119] and the Great Leap Forward. Active campaigns, including party purges and "reeducation", resulted in imprisonment or the execution of those deemed contrary to the implementation of Maoist ideals.[120] Some historians have argued that because of Mao's land reforms during the Great Leap Forward which resulted in famines, thirty million perished between 1958 and 1961. By the end of 1961, the birth rate was nearly cut in half because of malnutrition

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maoism#Criticism_and_implementation

Seriously, do you have any idea what Maoism actually is?

They're authoritarians. That's not "the left".

What's crazy is there's 31 different flavors of communism that doesn't require unquestioning loyalty to a supreme leader, and tankies can all just easily choose to support any of them.

Keep every last good thing they claim to support, and just ditch the roving gangs of murderers and literal tanks crushing anyone that doesn't 100% agree with them....

But they won't, because the lust for violence is why they're tankies in the first place, instead of any of the rational flavors of communism. They're not tankies for the communism, it's just a path to acceptable violence against an out group

You're telling the only person in this thread with a brain to go back to reddit?

I don't think it was strictly sexism and racism that led to their failure. Clinton was an elitist insider who arrogantly thought the presidency was "her turn" as part of a political dynasty while working with the DNC and the other establishment candidates to sabotage Sanders' campaign. I was pissed learning of her leaked emails collaborating with DNC administrators to thwart Sanders every step of the way.

Harris was a milquetoast politician who was basically appointed to be the Democrat candidate when Biden announced he wouldn't run for a second term long after the primaries could have been held. Could she have done a better job had she distanced herself from Biden's foreign policies? Possibly, but she held firm to the status quo which was not gonna fly with a lot of those who knew the horrors Israel was inflicting on Palestinian civilians.

A lot of us on the left have this notion that our candidate has to be near perfect to win their vote and that also tends to hurt their chances. Couple that with the DNC getting high on its own neoliberal farts and you tend to get a losing combination.

AOC doesn't have the same kind of baggage that made both Clinton and Harris undesirable to many so there's a better chance she could make it, especially with the way Trump has ratfucked the US and the world at large. Her championing Sanders' policies will also be a big boost to those who want a more affordable and equitable life too.

I understand this and go back-and-forth sometimes internally. But there's a lot of women-only or women-leading statewide seats, governorships, Senate seats even in conservative states.

I think right-wingers who wouldn't vote for her anyway are a lot of duplication with sexist voters, and sexism may just be the lowest-hanging excuse they'll have for hating her. And it will definitely bleed into sexist propaganda in right echo chambers. But I'm not sure it would be enough to stop a good candidate, which I think she'd be.

Same. I love AOC and hold that Clinton and Harris lost primarily because they were unexciting centrists, but I'd prefer not to duplicate any of the variables with the stakes this high.

I'd love for her or someone like her to win. 28 isn't the right year though. It's going to be a shitshow and likely years of partisan crap. We need a good progressive dem to win with massive wins in both senate and house to be able to push and solidify policies

28 pres is going to have to punish Trump and cronies which would distract from good policies so I'd rather those wait a few years and they make sure we never have this issue again. Both at once would be great ofc by that's setting huge expectations.

Having her run in 32 or 36 with 8 years to fully push progressive policies and not have to deal with punishing Trump and others would be amazing

I would never love to be proven wrong more than about this