House Judiciary Committee Democrats on Monday released an unsigned staff report laying out what they call “the case against Donald Trump emerging in the Epstein Files and DOJ’s desperate efforts to cover it up,” with those Democrats now calling for an independent special counsel to investigate the president as well as what they describe as Attorney General Todd Blanche’s conflicts of interest and the Justice Department’s reluctance to share relevant evidence with state and foreign law enforcement.

“The women who survived Epstein deserve to be heard,” the top Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., said in a statement. “Congress must have the complete files required by law, and an independent special counsel must investigate Epstein’s co-conspirators and DOJ’s cover-up and ensure that state and foreign prosecutors have the evidence they need to pursue justice.”

The more than 50-page report alleges that Trump was “an active participant in Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of young women in the mid-to-late 1990s.” Although it also contains at least one entirely new allegation against the president, it provides no direct evidence other than the woman’s own conversations with Judiciary Committee staff.

He raped children, but the cult doesn't care. They like rapding children as evidenced by how many Republicans and church people keep getting caught raping children.

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[–] 154 points 2 weeks ago (19 children)

Trump was “an active participant in Jeffrey Epstein’s abuse of young women in the mid-to-late 1990s.”

And nobody is surprised in the slightest. Grabbing them by the pussy doesn't mean restricting yourself to adult pussy.

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  • [–] 42 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Grabbing them by the pussy doesn't mean restricting yourself to adult pussy.

    Same vibe as the dudes who make a huge deal about girls turning 18. They’re really just saying “I would definitely go younger if I wasn’t afraid of getting shanked in prison.”

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  • [–] 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Its fucked that they refer to them as "young women" and not children like a good number of them were.

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    I don't know how common it is, but while growing up, I often heard from adults that a girl becomes a woman with her first period.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago*

    There are also pretty big events in many cultures for turning 15/16 (like the quinceañera) that generally map to a similar "becoming a woman" type of thing.

    Not the same as the general timeframe for a first period, but also not the same as 18 in the US where Epstein is most relevant.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

    Gonna reproduce a recent comment of mine here, since a lot of people still haven’t seen this info, re: Ivanka:

    I thought the photos and the clip where she and her father were asked what they had in common, (she said ‘golf’ and he said ‘I was going to say sex’) were bad, but this one is clearer than even that.

    She’s a monstrous person in her own right, but he made her that way. So sad, because she was a child once, and was not allowed to be one. It’s tragic, no matter what she is now.

    I also forgot about the fact that when she was 17, she made him promise not to date anyone younger than her (again, from his own mouth). First, they both also publicly talked about that, and second, how is that a normal thing to talk about with your father as a 17 year old girl?!?

    Yeah, we all know what he is and what he’s done. She’s a victim. She’s also a monster, as she was raised to be.

    There’s a reason he likes all his concubines to look like his daughter. It’s the same reason his Epstein victims said he wanted them to wear a blonde wig so they looked like his daughter. He’s not just a paedophile, but an incestuous one at that. Absolutely the worst of humanity in every possible way.

    e: sorry, I wanted to link the video this was in response to, but it’s been deleted. It was an interview where Ivanka was giving a reporter a tour of her teenaged bedroom (she must have been early 20s) and she visibly changed her entire demeanour when talking about her bed. It’s so obvious and tragic.
    Perhaps someone else will have better search luck than me.

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    That’s the one. Thanks!

    See how her entire demeanour changes when she talks about her bed. Her face visibly falls and her eyes get a thousand yard stare. Anyone who has experienced SA will instantly recognise it. It’s so obvious there’s trauma in her memory there.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    No, I believe you. Unfortunately the even best search skills probably won't get it back.

    A few months ago I went searching for a circa 2016 video I clearly remembered of Melania talking about her escort days and referring to it as "doing business," a video that was full of first-person lingo pertaining to sex work, only to find that it and almost everything from that time period, along with almost all of her earliest interviews, have been scrubbed entirely -- not just from YouTube but from the internet.

    They have also released files on the DoJ Epstein site only to quickly yank them back.

    I have no doubt whatsoever that the video you refer to has also been quietly scrubbed. I remember it, and so do others, not least because a number of people find it creepy as fuck. "Her entire demeanor changed" when she was up in that bedroom is a good way of putting it.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

    I doubt Trump's sex trafficking work ever stopped. If it did, it was just passed to someone else to manage because he got too busy playing golf and the dementia.

    No one was arrested except one woman and his "dead" competition/partner.

    Trump flew around in the lolita express jet during all of his presidential campaigns. I mean, common.

    It never stopped. It's still happening. Do people really think it was only Epstein's island, ranch, and ny apartment? Only Epstein ?

    There are already documents in the Epstein files saying there is another location in Ohio.

    And mention of another man running a location who fits the description of Banon. (In Detroit?).

    And that's just the U.S. I guarantee sex work was running out of mara lago .

    From a purely strategic position, I would guess another location in Tijuana near California or Mexico just south of Texas.

    Somewhere easy for U.S citizens to get to. But away from inquisitive eyes. Somewhere easy to pay off the local LE.

    the thing is. Until the files get released, we can only speculate. But the fact that they won't is evidence to me that such operations are still occurring involving known people . Or at the very least were still occuring until very recently. Like the last 5 years.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    And mention of another man running a location who fits the description of Banon.

    The same Steve Bannon who had a vat of hydrochloric acid behind a locked door in the house where he held sex parties alleged to have included minors? That Steve Bannon?

    It never stopped. It's still happening. Do people really think it was only Epstein's island, ranch, and ny apartment? Only Epstein ?

    Heard it through the grapevine that Hilton Head Island is a hub for it too. There's a golf tournament there every year where a bunch of giant yachts roll in. Apparently during that week a bunch of new faces (young faces, with broken English) are seen around town, who promptly disappear when the yachts roll away.

    Haven't heard much more than that, but it's safe to assume that if the local PD is aware of it, they don't give a fuck cause their chief is probably smoking cigars with the yacht owners.

    The Mercer compound in Long Island is probably also worth looking into...

    I guarantee sex work was running out of mara lago

    That's not even theoretical, it was Maxwell's favored poaching grounds.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Yep. That Steve Banon.

    It's hard to find the specific documents I'm referring to, but if my memory serves me, there was a description of drugs running through the house. And speculation they were being manufactured there. And women and very young women sex workers.

    I believe the document was a police report. Or FBI report. It described reports by neighbors. Which is where the description of a man matching Steve Banon was.

    Unfortunately I can't easily locate it. I may have the city wrong, maybe not. but when I search "Epstein files Detroit" , all I get are results for an Epstein exibit in Detroit. If I come across the documents again, I'll post a link or screen shot of them.

    I remember other people commenting that it sounded like a description of Banon. And that the timeline fit with whatever he was going during those years.

    This report was from a while back. Maybe early 2000s. I cant recall for sure but I don't think it was recent.

    It's shitty that it's so hard to navigate those files.

    I had an idea when they came out, to create a community effort to organize and tag files with dates, type of document (police report, interview, internal FBI documents, email, etc). Who was corresponding or the author. Keywords. Like locations mentioned. Notable names. And of course the file number. And if other files were referenced or connected.

    Could be done pretty easy with spreadsheets. And then you could make a fairly simple search engine to navigate the meta data assigned to each file.

    Assign volunteers 10 documents at a time. Have a few trustworthy leads that compile the Excel sheets. Keep backups on external drives.

    Would also help find all the duplicate files.

    The sheer volume though requires a huge number of volunteers.

    Assigned files need tracked to specific users (can assign IDs) so that if we get a troll or bot or someone intentionally fucking up the list, we can pull all of their assigned file data.

    And have a few quality checkers pull random files from users to check for accuracy. Provide feedback and identify bad actors.

    I used to work in insurance so I'm pretty sure I have an effecient and quality oriented approach. But again. The sheer number of volunteers needed to do this work is high.

    Also need people to review files with high similarity of tag data to see if duplicate and verify.

    Some of this could potentially be pre-reviewed with automated functions.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Yeah, now that modern corpo search engines curate everything we see online, open-source data hoarding is going to be more and more important.

    Building a tailored search index is a good idea though, even if it's just a spreadsheet. I'm sure we've got some SQL wizards on the fediverse though.

    But yeah, it would be a team effort. An enormous project with the sheer number of files there are. Might be a use case for some automation, with human review of course. Even just a macro or something.

    But also the required storage space, network infrastructure, etc.... It's a big task...

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    Yeah it's definitely a big project but mostly just because of the number of files. And data storage.

    And organizing the volunteers. You need more than one person on top. But due to the risk of bad actors infiltrating and deleting stuff, it also has to be done with redundant centralized collections.

    For the few near the top, it's going to almost be a full time job just to manage.

    Plus It's just too risky to have one person in charge. They could get hacked or something. And I'm certain once it gets traction the data set and users would be targeted.

    I've already broken it down the main steps. It's not that complex. Just need to develop guides and definitely consider some macros. Figure out workflows and security.

    At the insurance company I worked in, the automated system first identified what type of human intervention was needed. For instance if the claim was for rental equipment, or a long term hospital stay , etc. And first just identified what it was. Then operators who specialized in those types of claims did them. Or would just work that type for the whole day. Then a different kind the next day.

    It just helps you sift through things faster if you are doing one type at a time.

    I'm not wholly against local machine learning algorithms going through the data. But I just think humans can do a better job. We see things and notice patterns better because we understand context. But maybe these automated services could be used to at least identify if the file is an email or interview or the format.

    Running something like that would require machines.

    Maybe putting this project idea out there will help inspire someone to make this happen. Someone with a lot more resources than I have.

    This is something we (online community volunteers) could do.

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  • [–] 26 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

    The GOP party* standard bearer, everyone!

    G ross

    O ld

    P edophile

    party

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  • [–] [S] 16 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

    I always thought GOP was Guardians of Pedophiles, but yours works too.

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    Pedophile king needs to go.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    the Trumpstein Pedo-Files!

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  • [–] 19 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

    Does anybody remember the trend of "dead baby jokes" in the mid to late 90's?

    "What's the difference between a cheeseburger and a dead baby? I dont fuck a cheeseburger before i eat it."

    Kinda wondering if all this epstein stuff might have a role in it somehow. Like, these were things that happened on the island and these "jokes" were a way to openly brag about it or something. Or maybe my small hick hometown was just really messed up.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    I think you are reading into things a bit, though that's not to say that some utterly heinous shit didn't happen on the island, just that dark humour isn't a new thing and that just happened to be the trend at the time.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    That's probably what's happening. Idk why but reading about the epstein shit again, one person asking "can we get their parents in the room next time to see if they suck harder" it just reminded me of those dead baby jokes.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

    Does anybody remember the trend of “dead baby jokes” in the mid to late 90’s?

    I learned a shitload of seriously tasteless jokes in the 70s and 80s - more often than not from comedy shows on the radio, even. And well, they were funny back then. Then they weren't. Times change.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago*

    I grew up in a very rural area and what passed for comedy there usually was....very suboptimal, I'd say. At least before we started hearing tapes/records of the comedy giants (Steve Martin, Carlin, Murphy, Pryor, etc.) and lots of people trying to recount those routines to each other.

    I seem to remember there were tasteless joke books going around in the 80s, and they definitely included dead baby jokes.

    After searching a bit, it seems the jokes go back to at least the 1960s...

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    Everyone including the maga folks know, they just don’t care. They may lie and say “it’s a hoax” but I know even the red cap wearing maga people know trump harmed children but they will say “ the means justify the ends” to themselves. They just don’t care and are heartless and spineless

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    they will say “ the means justify the ends” to themselves.

    Its more important to them to kill the gays/trannies because they are a risk to children than it is to hold actual pedophiles accountable.

    It's okay that there is pedophilia. Just so long as its cis, straight, and white pedophilia.

    -MAGAts

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    It's "alleged" until confirmed by a tribunal. Otherwise it's libel and you're getting multimillion dollar lawsuits against them.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    Donald Trump was involved with Jeffry Epstein.

    Watch me not get sued.

    Obviously large media companies are at larger risk, however it's literally factually true that he was involved with Epstein. And the truth is an absolute defence against libel. So why don't the media grow some balls.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    You're a person, not a news org. And it sounds like you are asking them to override their legal departments to take on risk because you would find the immediate results pleasing, regardless of the longer term effects it would have on those companies.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 weeks ago

    Yes that's correct. That's why I said the media should grow some balls.

    I also work directly in technical legal risk, and I know what lawyers recommend companies and why, and they are the most risk averse people on earth. Of course they will recommend the course of action the incurrs zero legal risk.

    Companies chose not to listen to their lawyers based on analysis of risk literally constantly. Just like they don't always listen to engineering, HR, or any other department.

    Corporations don't get to shirk public responsibility by hiding behind their lawyers.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
  • [–] [S] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (2 children)

    Cause a jury hasn't found him guilty in an official court proceeding. The headline publication doesn't want to be sued for liable.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    Which isn’t a bad thing. There’s a process. The problem here is not that a process failed. It’s that it wasn’t followed at all.

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  • [–] [S] 1 point 2 weeks ago

    Yes, but that is a political question for the voter, Congress, and/or future juror to see resolved; not the publisher. So, to save themselves the expense of litigation, they go with alleged. Much cheaper too add one word than it is to be sued.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    I personally believe that the reason that Trump is so adamant and afraid of the Epstein files is that at some point he did some slightly gay shit with Epstein.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 weeks ago* (4 children)

    He's attached himself to Nicki minaj and kid rock. They're pedophile likers, they're not being secretive about their pedophile ness. its open, and everyone in the US is okay with it, or okay enough with it, to solely bitch online about it.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 weeks ago

    that bright blue on their website burns my eyes

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  • [–] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    The meta Epstein files have been released.

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

    Conservatives are biologically unable to experience empathy. Without empathy, it is impossible to develop deep, meaningful connections with others, including family. This is why conservative relationships always seem so shallow. This is also why conservatives so easily support rape, child abuse or child abandonment.

    It is simply not possible to hold conservative values and be empathetic simultaneously. That's why they condemn empathy by calling it "woke", evil or sinful.

    It is never safe for a member of a vulnerable group, especially a child, to be left alone with a conservative.

    It is neither moral nor safe to keep a relationship with a conservative. Disown them all. Normalizing conservatives is normalizing bigots. Conservatives are not normal and should be excluded from modern daily life.

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    "alleged" after all this time alleged?

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  • [–] [S] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

    Cause a jury hasn't found him guilty in an official court proceeding. The headline publication doesn't want to be sued for libel.

    *Edit: spelling

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    has he taken anyone that has made public accusations against him to court for them yet?

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 2 weeks ago

    That weighs against him, but not engaging in litigation doesn't inherently mean its worth the publisher to assume the risk of expense. There's a saying like "We, the members of the jury, find" that tRump raped those people, a news organization won't assume the risk to expense—especially since the corporation has a fiduciary obligation to maximize the return to their owners.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 weeks ago* (9 children)

    He raped children, but the cult doesn’t care. Thry like rapding children as evidenced by how many Republicans and church people keep getting caught raping children.

    Fun fact: Epstein was friends with many, many Democrats, it's not a "Republican only" problem. Where's that caring?

    The Democrats can always release the Epstein files, nobody is stopping them but them. Why are they colluding with Republicans to keep this sealed? When will they do the right thing? Will they ever?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

    DoJ controls the release. Republicans control DoJ. ml is that way - - >

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  • [–] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 child)

    Prosecute the Dems as well along the repugs. Start with the number of times they're mentioned in the files.

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  • [–] -3 points 2 weeks ago*

    Agreed, they should all be prosecuted.

    This is over ten years now. Only the most misinformed would claim that this is a Republican-only cover up. Is this a Lemmy thing?

    If you get your news from Lemmy alone, good Lord you have no idea what is going on.

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    Epstein was friends with many, many Democrats, it’s not a “Republican only” problem. Where’s that caring?

    I wasn't talking just about Epstein. There are many many examples of Republicans raping children. In fact, Republican states keep trying to lower the age of marriage to get around child rape laws, with Texas allowing marriage as young as 14.

    Note, California doesn't have an age of marriage, but California relies on the common law's rules related to minors and contracts.

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  • [+] -29 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

    Nobody knows about this on any other site.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 child)

    More like "corporate media wants to bury this story so they can keep profits high under the current regime."

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  • [–] 1 point 2 weeks ago*

    They don't need to bury stories anymore. Leftist have retreated all social spaces to right wing groups. They have no network. Barely any meaningful presence. It's a digital age and the left somehow became luddite trying to convince people to meet in coffee shops.

    It's fucking over. In my life I have never seen a more devastating choke. The left essentially controlled all digital spaces and even media. Then the first sign of confrontation where leftist had to "punch nazis" they all collectively folded and said "don't roll with pigs we're too good" it turned out the left had no fight in it.

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    Yea really. You can search "couches fucking" and get the same results. It's yet another story that bots will post to keep you clicking for the hour. You will write "yea fuck Trump he's such a dick" then I guess up or down vote which are about as real as the tooth fairy but give a sense of something? I guess. Then you move on to the next story.

    This lemmy place is built to keep you just engaged enough. It's not like 4chan or Facebook or even reddit where a culture is built, investigations and research are done on these things and keeps going day to day by generating new content.

    Lemmy is a place to collect leftist and keep them occupied while the nazis convince your uncle that kids are shitting in cat litter and it's immigrants fault.

    Look at how they built it. It's every corporate control reddit implemented for corporate control just ramped up to 11. Why would you all accept that? Leftist use to stand for something, it's just a vapid and dying culture and most civil action lately has been stuff cooked up by right wing groups to jingle keys like a modern cointelpro

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